Current Events > 18 y/o Kid who said he was gonna SHOOT UP his school faces 20 YEARS in PRISON!!

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18 y/o Pasty Kid, Jacob Michael Graham from Detroit is facing 20 YEARS in Prison after he threatened to shoot up his school!!

The ugly hair teen is behind bars after he posted a pic of himself with his AR-15 Rifle on Snapchat and said "Next School Shooter"...police saw the picture and promptly arrested him when he was pulled out of class at Chippewa Valley High School.

A parent saw the post and immediately notified school officials, who then called police.

He claimed the instagram post was a "joke"

Police went to his parent's house and rummaged through his belongings and computer as his mother was very cooperative but obviously upset

No guns were discovered nor does the family own any firearms as the AR-15 he posted with was a rental...and there was no evidence he planned an attack either

He is charged with one count of a false report or threat of terrorism which punishable up to 20 years in prison. He is also charged with misuse of a telcommunications device, a misdemeanor

He is held on 150,000 cash or surety bond as a preliminary exam is to determine if he will stand trial on March 26th

A Female Heifer was also discovered to have posted a threatening post with an AR-15 according to California police and it's not known if the girl was arrested since the picture went wide.

Dailymail uncovered THIRTY EIGHT different incidents or threats since the shooting in Florida

Do you think this kid should go to Prison whether it was a joke or not?

Jacob - In Big Fat Trouble

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Unknown Tramp - Soon to be in trouble

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What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Haha so funny. So fucking funny.

Fuck him, if we're letting others rot for far less I'm fine with letting him rot too.
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20 years for a joke. This isn't America anymore
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The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.
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Bad joke. I feel the same about this as I do about that 13 year old kid who's getting life for threatening to bomb a Bieber concert tbh. Punishment this harsh doesn't make sense.
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Gafemage posted...

The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.

I think like 5 years is good enough.
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Why are people still doing this. While it was dumb as hell to make these "jokes" right after it happen. People have seen others get arrested for it. At this point it is clear that this is something you don't joke about. I just don't get it.
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Chippewa? Time to watch Addams Family Values again!

Gafemage posted...

The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.

Unless I'm mistaken it's still only "up to 20 years". Realistically, if he gets time, it's prob gonna be a year/2 max and some probation/fines.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Gafemage posted...

The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.

Unless I'm mistaken it's still only "up to 20 years". Realistically, if he gets time, it's prob gonna be a year/2 max and some probation/fines.

This would probably be fair, actually.
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

20 years for a joke. This isn't America anymore

It's about damn time the police started cracking down on kids who basically act like internet trolls in real life as if there are no consequences for what you say and do. It's going to be a beautiful rude-awakening for the generation of indoor-children. And again, it's about damn time. Fucking dumbass kids like this Jacob Michael Graham are the reason why America sucks.
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jukester posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

20 years for a joke. This isn't America anymore

It's about damn time the police started cracking down on kids who basically act like internet trolls in real life as if there are no consequences for what you say and do. It's going to be a beautiful rude-awakening for the generation of indoor-children. And again, it's about damn time. Fucking dumbass kids like this Jacob Michael Graham are the reason why America sucks.

20 years. You might as well execute them
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

jukester posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

20 years for a joke. This isn't America anymore

It's about damn time the police started cracking down on kids who basically act like internet trolls in real life as if there are no consequences for what you say and do. It's going to be a beautiful rude-awakening for the generation of indoor-children. And again, it's about damn time. Fucking dumbass kids like this Jacob Michael Graham are the reason why America sucks.

20 years. You might as well execute them

Zeeak4444 posted...

Gafemage posted...

The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.

Unless I'm mistaken it's still only "up to 20 years". Realistically, if he gets time, it's prob gonna be a year/2 max and some probation/fines.

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FvP posted...

Gafemage posted...

The kid's extraordinarily stupid, but prison time seems extreme - especially twenty years.

I think like 5 years is good enough.

Five years probation, maybe.
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I suppose it would be too obvious to state that mass shootings aren't the kind of thing you should be joking about doing, or is that uncommon sense?
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I don't get it, why would people joke like this. It's not funny and it is insensitive to the victims of the real school shooting.
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008Zulu posted...

I suppose it would be too obvious to state that mass shootings aren't the kind of thing you should be joking about doing, or is that uncommon sense?

I joke about murdering people online, but its still a joke. This kid posted this on instagram ffs. Thats already a pretty big sign hes just playing around. Then, after seraching through his house they found nothing, and the gun he was using was just a rental. Any jail time is ridiculous.
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Sheesh. This is getting ridiculous. It's a stupid tasteless joke. The very idea that he's sitting in jail right now is against everything this country stands for. Sure, investigate anyone who makes dumbass comments, but extremes like this are how case history is made. This is actually thought crime.
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Darksaber310 posted...

Sheesh. This is getting ridiculous. It's a stupid tasteless joke. The very idea that he's sitting in jail right now is against everything this country stands for. Sure, investigate anyone who makes dumbass comments, but extremes like this are how case history is made. This is actually thought crime.

There is a difference between "i wish someone would shoot uo my school" and "i am going to shoot up my school"...
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Rika_Furude posted...

Darksaber310 posted...

Sheesh. This is getting ridiculous. It's a stupid tasteless joke. The very idea that he's sitting in jail right now is against everything this country stands for. Sure, investigate anyone who makes dumbass comments, but extremes like this are how case history is made. This is actually thought crime.

There is a difference between "i wish someone would shoot uo my school" and "i am going to shoot up my school"...

Oh really? He made a targeted threat? Because what I read is the difference between saying I'm gonna kill and I'm gonna kill <insert name here>. Which just so happens to be the difference between speech and threat! Whaddaya know. Stupid tasteless joke, but a crime this is not. Personally I hope some hotshot lawyer sees this and blows it out of the water. The fallout from this could actually set back defenses against shooters if it's determined the investigation wasn't constitutional.

This is why we don't get stupid with the law. They could have investigated, held him for a while giving him a real bad time, let him go and accomplished exactly what this will for no money at all, but we need to waste money ruining some kid's life. All I can say is I hope it comes for you and yours next if you truly believe this is acceptable.
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Darksaber310 posted...

Oh really? He made a targeted threat? Because what I read is the difference between saying I'm gonna kill and I'm gonna kill <insert name here>. ..

The target was his school .
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Darksaber310 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Darksaber310 posted...

Sheesh. This is getting ridiculous. It's a stupid tasteless joke. The very idea that he's sitting in jail right now is against everything this country stands for. Sure, investigate anyone who makes dumbass comments, but extremes like this are how case history is made. This is actually thought crime.

There is a difference between "i wish someone would shoot uo my school" and "i am going to shoot up my school"...

Oh really? He made a targeted threat? Because what I read is the difference between saying I'm gonna kill and I'm gonna kill <insert name here>. Which just so happens to be the difference between speech and threat! Whaddaya know. Stupid tasteless joke, but a crime this is not. Personally I hope some hotshot lawyer sees this and blows it out of the water. The fallout from this could actually set back defenses against shooters if it's determined the investigation wasn't constitutional.

This is why we don't get stupid with the law. They could have investigated, held him for a while giving him a real bad time, let him go and accomplished exactly what this will for no money at all, but we need to waste money ruining some kid's life. All I can say is I hope it comes for you and yours next if you truly believe this is acceptable.

A school can be a target.......
This is like that time the idiot girl tweeted an airline saying something like "im middle eastern and ive got something big planned tomorow"
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Full Throttle posted...

Unknown Tramp - Soon to be in trouble

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Lock him up.
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It's extreme immaturity. Idk if it's worth ruining his life over it, but he's 18 not 14.
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I'm in favor of raising the bar on humanity, fuck this shit posting kek loser.
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If I had a dollar everytime the news media reported an angry teen planning to "shoot up" their school, I'd be a rich man by now.

the majority agrees, he SHOULD go to prison!
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It's stupid more than it is criminal. That's what makes me hesitate.

I was 17 back during 9/11 and I was extremely immature at that age. I made some really dumb comments on message boards back then that probably would have gotten me arrested if they were made today.

So idk, I remember what it felt like to be as immature as that guy. It's hard to say, man. He did make a threat, but at the same time it's extremely unlikely that it was serious. He probably just wanted attention. Ruining is entire life over it... I mean, idk maybe the prosecutor who's pushing for this knows something we don't that made his threat more serious than it appeared?
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20 years is outrageous
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At the very least, a fair sentence would be to charge him with whatever felony crime you can, no jail/prison time, but a long probation and never allowed to own a gun.
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frozenshock posted...

It's stupid more than it is criminal. That's what makes me hesitate.

I was 17 back during 9/11 and I was extremely immature at that age. I made some really dumb comments on message boards back then that probably would have gotten me arrested if they were made today.

So idk, I remember what it felt like to be as immature as that guy. It's hard to say, man. He did make a threat, but at the same time it's extremely unlikely that it was serious. He probably just wanted attention. Ruining is entire life over it... I mean, idk maybe the prosecutor who's pushing for this knows something we don't that made his threat more serious than it appeared?

Your post here is exactly why the florida shooter, despite telling EVERYBODY he was gonna shoot the place up, over the course of months/years, still got nothing done to him.

If a person has a gun and is insinuating that they're going to kill people, take them seriously.
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Stupid shit, lol
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Steve Nick posted...

frozenshock posted...

It's stupid more than it is criminal. That's what makes me hesitate.

I was 17 back during 9/11 and I was extremely immature at that age. I made some really dumb comments on message boards back then that probably would have gotten me arrested if they were made today.

So idk, I remember what it felt like to be as immature as that guy. It's hard to say, man. He did make a threat, but at the same time it's extremely unlikely that it was serious. He probably just wanted attention. Ruining is entire life over it... I mean, idk maybe the prosecutor who's pushing for this knows something we don't that made his threat more serious than it appeared?

Your post here is exactly why the florida shooter, despite telling EVERYBODY he was gonna shoot the place up, over the course of months/years, still got nothing done to him.

If a person has a gun and is insinuating that they're going to kill people, take them seriously.

Sure, but life in prison for a threat is heinous.
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I think a year minimum would be fair. a highly publicized case to serve as an example, and anybody after this guy should get no less than 5.

people who get 10+ years never come back the same. they're less functional, thus long sentences being counter productive to rehabilitation.

mental health should looked into. the majority of these school shooter types are social outcast.
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It's perfectly reasonable for law enforcement to investigate this and for him to receive some punishment. 20 years is ridiculous.
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No this isn't right

Apparently they had real info on a lot of these shooters and did absolutely nothing

If this really is just someone making a taboo joke then that's a dangerous precedent. They should look into his online history and stuff before they give a sentence like that
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Steve Nick posted...

frozenshock posted...

It's stupid more than it is criminal. That's what makes me hesitate.

I was 17 back during 9/11 and I was extremely immature at that age. I made some really dumb comments on message boards back then that probably would have gotten me arrested if they were made today.

So idk, I remember what it felt like to be as immature as that guy. It's hard to say, man. He did make a threat, but at the same time it's extremely unlikely that it was serious. He probably just wanted attention. Ruining is entire life over it... I mean, idk maybe the prosecutor who's pushing for this knows something we don't that made his threat more serious than it appeared?

Your post here is exactly why the florida shooter, despite telling EVERYBODY he was gonna shoot the place up, over the course of months/years, still got nothing done to him.

If a person has a gun and is insinuating that they're going to kill people, take them seriously.

Exactly. I can't believe some people are so passive about this when these are some of the exact things Nikolus Cruz (sp?) did. Funny how it was all a "joke" when the polic were involved. If you're going to post pictures like that you have to be a little mentally unstable.

Fuck this kid

He might not need to do 20 years, but he needs to serve some time
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I wasn't the brightest back when I was 18, but I can't imagine myself ever being stupid enough to do something like this. He brought it onto himself.
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DyingPancake posted...

Your post here is exactly why the florida shooter, despite telling EVERYBODY he was gonna shoot the place up, over the course of months/years, still got nothing done to him.

If a person has a gun and is insinuating that they're going to kill people, take them seriously.

But there is a difference between one troll post and a long period of time of telling everybody you're gonna shoot up the place. It's really a case by case basis where you have to use judgement.
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He deserves a few years probation, at most. 20 years for making a threat via a picture is fucking ridiculous. Thought policing and an attack on freedom of expression.

That said, the kid fucked up hardcore and does deserve some punishment, but definitely not prison time. I mean, that'd likely cause him to want enact that idea at that point.
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Full Throttle posted...

He is charged with one count of a false report or threat of terrorism which punishable up to 20 years in prison.

Fair, next.

He is also charged with misuse of a telcommunications device, a misdemeanor

What, what?
Of course, that will be the charge that actually sticks.

So if I said I was going to cause a nuclear holocaust that would end all of mankind on facebook that gives them grounds to have me on life sentence in or executed?

Fair
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FluttershyPony posted...

So if I said I was going to cause a nuclear holocaust that would end all of mankind on facebook that gives them grounds to have me on life sentence in or executed?

Probably, were you to pose on facebook with an atom bomb.

Kineth posted...

He deserves a few years probation, at most. 20 years for making a threat via a picture is fucking ridiculous. Thought policing and an attack on freedom of expression.

That said, the kid fucked up hardcore and does deserve some punishment, but definitely not prison time. I mean, that'd likely cause him to want enact that idea at that point.

I think the police should seriously investigate any thing like that, and they didn't do it with the Cruz guy. But after the police does their thing, it really should be just prosecutorial discretion
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Questionmarktarius posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

So if I said I was going to cause a nuclear holocaust that would end all of mankind on facebook that gives them grounds to have me on life sentence in or executed?

Probably, were you to pose on facebook with an atom bomb.

Yeah then he might start a nuclear war.

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