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gna647
03/04/18 4:56:14 PM
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Mastered ultra instinct is fucking insane

How is Superman going to beat anything he cant hit?
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DK9292
03/04/18 4:57:32 PM
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And Arale can beat both.
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gna647
03/04/18 4:58:55 PM
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Deathbattle needs to make another goku vs Superman segment

Ultra instinct is way too good
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Unsugarized_Foo
03/04/18 4:59:22 PM
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Spoilz
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Blue_Inigo
03/04/18 4:59:50 PM
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There's no doubt he'd whoop Superman
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Dustin1280
03/04/18 5:00:19 PM
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so did he do it?

Wasted jiren with ultra instinct?

He didn't go blue though? Just mastered ultra instinct?
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Going_Deep_08
03/04/18 5:00:33 PM
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No.

Superman will still beat Goku.
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Skye Reynolds
03/04/18 5:01:58 PM
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With characters like those, all that has to happen is for one of them to spontaneously get an upgrade. They could come up with any bullshit excuse. Superman gets his power from the sun, so he takes a journey through the cosmos bathing in and fully absorbing star after star until his power is magnified beyond the scope of all human knowledge.

When a character is broken, they're broken. There's no way to accurately measure which invincible fictional character is stronger than another. That being said, yeah, Goku is typically depicted as stronger than Superman.
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DK9292
03/04/18 5:02:35 PM
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gna647 posted...
Deathbattle needs to make another goku vs Superman segment

Ultra instinct is way too good

Death Battle would still say Superman would win. Biased af.
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A_Good_Boy
03/04/18 5:02:49 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
so did he do it?

Wasted jiren with ultra instinct?

He didn't go blue though? Just mastered ultra instinct?

He mastered it then made Jiren realize he's just been a cuck to power all his life and Goku has been the bull this whole time.
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gna647
03/04/18 5:06:17 PM
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Going_Deep_08 posted...
No.

Superman will still beat Goku.


lmaooo

did you not see the last episode?
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Knowledge_King
03/04/18 5:08:54 PM
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Eyebeams, freeze breath, being too fast and thus being able to hit him. Waiting him out. Outlasting him.

Tons of options.
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gna647
03/04/18 5:11:40 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Eyebeams, freeze breath, being too fast and thus being able to hit him. Waiting him out. Outlasting him.

Tons of options.


he can dodge all those now. None of those can hit goku at all. Ultra instinct doesn't require a lot of energy. Hence why he isn't in any super forms while he's using it.

superman can get tired and can get beat

goku wins this by miles
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StarKnight23
03/04/18 5:11:55 PM
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Goku can't survive in space
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DK9292
03/04/18 5:12:38 PM
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StarKnight23 posted...
Goku can't survive in space

Battle of Gods says otherwise.
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Blue_Inigo
03/04/18 5:12:51 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Eyebeams, freeze breath, being too fast and thus being able to hit him. Waiting him out. Outlasting him.

Tons of options.

Goku is moving faster than thought
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salandrews
03/04/18 5:14:08 PM
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Lol I love that this is still a topic.

I thought CE moved on to blacktail vs red9- a much better topic tbqh
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chrono625
03/04/18 5:18:34 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
With characters like those, all that has to happen is for one of them to spontaneously get an upgrade. They could come up with any bullshit excuse. Superman gets his power from the sun, so he takes a journey through the cosmos bathing in and fully absorbing star after star until his power is magnified beyond the scope of all human knowledge.


They did this with all star superman and he gets a terminal illness from over exposure to the sun.
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gna647
03/04/18 5:19:16 PM
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salandrews posted...
Lol I love that this is still a topic.

I thought CE moved on to blacktail vs red9- a much better topic tbqh


red9 of course

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Skye Reynolds
03/04/18 5:22:28 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
With characters like those, all that has to happen is for one of them to spontaneously get an upgrade. They could come up with any bullshit excuse. Superman gets his power from the sun, so he takes a journey through the cosmos bathing in and fully absorbing star after star until his power is magnified beyond the scope of all human knowledge.


They did this with all star superman and he gets a terminal illness from over exposure to the sun.


That's just one continuity. :v
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Foppe
03/04/18 5:28:41 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
With characters like those, all that has to happen is for one of them to spontaneously get an upgrade. They could come up with any bullshit excuse. Superman gets his power from the sun, so he takes a journey through the cosmos bathing in and fully absorbing star after star until his power is magnified beyond the scope of all human knowledge.


They did this with all star superman and he gets a terminal illness from over exposure to the sun.

The All Star imprints are not canon.
In DC One Million, Superman has been living in the center of the sun for over fifteen thousand years.
Not saying that DC One Million is canon any longer.
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Irony
03/04/18 5:30:57 PM
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gna647 posted...
Mastered ultra instinct is fucking insane

How is Superman going to beat anything he cant hit?

What? He easily hits him. Superman not trying is way faster than Goku.
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FL81
03/04/18 5:31:42 PM
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Dustin1280
03/04/18 5:33:22 PM
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Although the argument that UI Goku's reactions are faster than thought is both accurate and tips the favor to goku IMO.

Superman still needs to think, UI Goku does not appear to have to do that...
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DK9292
03/04/18 5:35:16 PM
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Who can stop this constipated jock
With the awful animation and the complicated plot?
Who's got the rap bombs to drop on Japan?
This looks like a job for the OG
SUPERMAN!
I'm killing it, you're Krillin it,
I'm villainous to vegetables
Who dance around in Hammer pants to hide their tiny genitals!
My level is incredible! You're out of your league!
You want justice? I'll bust this
Nut up in your Chi-chi!
Greasy slick MC from DC!
With one breath I'll freeze your whole measly species!
You're primitive and limited,
You live in a village of idiots.
Step in Metropolis, I'll snap a carrot period!
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A_Good_Boy
03/04/18 5:47:27 PM
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Thinking has always been Goku's greatest weakness and now UI allows Goku to burst through his limitations.
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pikachupwnage
03/04/18 5:49:16 PM
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The episode had too much nonsense but damn him snatching Jirens super energy blast out of his hand was incredible,
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YellowSUV
03/04/18 5:57:04 PM
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The most powerful version of Superman would whoop Goku. Superman used to be written as a BS character who always wins. The current Superman, no idea.
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Knowledge_King
03/04/18 10:18:46 PM
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gna647 posted...

he can dodge all those now. None of those can hit goku at all. Ultra instinct doesn't require a lot of energy. Hence why he isn't in any super forms while he's using it.

superman can get tired and can get beat

goku wins this by miles


Goku gets tired in like....10 minutes. Supes fights for thousands of years straight. Not likely he's getting tired.

Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Blue_Inigo posted...
Goku is moving faster than thought


So...slower than Superman?
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Banjo2553
03/04/18 10:20:47 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?
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jumi
03/04/18 10:32:33 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.
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Blue_Inigo
03/04/18 10:33:37 PM
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jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Goku's new form is all about going beyond thinking
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Hinakuluiau
03/04/18 10:35:14 PM
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As they are most consistently shown, Superman should win.
There are versions of both who could beat the other though.
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A_Good_Boy
03/04/18 10:35:35 PM
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jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Only for traveling long distances. He doesn't need to do that when he only plans on moving behind someone in a fight.
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Kelystic
03/04/18 10:36:01 PM
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DK9292 posted...
And Arale can beat both.

Nchaaaaa!
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SideshowBob311
03/04/18 10:46:45 PM
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If you're letting everything Superman has ever done be in play, there's no way he ever loses. Writers in the 50's and 60's got to let superman do whatever the fuck they wanted. I'm pretty sure he sneezed and blew up a solar system at one point.
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Banjo2553
03/04/18 10:57:57 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
If you're letting everything Superman has ever done be in play, there's no way he ever loses. Writers in the 50's and 60's got to let superman do whatever the fuck they wanted. I'm pretty sure he sneezed and blew up a solar system at one point.

This is true. I feel we should compare modern Superman with modern Goku.
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salandrews
03/04/18 11:30:09 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Only for traveling long distances. He doesn't need to do that when he only plans on moving behind someone in a fight.


Flat out false. IT has always required some prep. Otherwise it would be the answer to literally all combat scenarios.
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A_Good_Boy
03/04/18 11:43:46 PM
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salandrews posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Only for traveling long distances. He doesn't need to do that when he only plans on moving behind someone in a fight.


Flat out false. IT has always required some prep. Otherwise it would be the answer to literally all combat scenarios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-4F8za3sdo


Literally being used in a fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwoltkx_bU4


That one has Goku using it while blasting at Gohan.
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jumi
03/04/18 11:44:00 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Goku's new form is all about going beyond thinking


Yeah, with punches, kicks, dodges, blocks, and ki blasts. Not IT.
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a42ozslushie
03/04/18 11:46:05 PM
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I never understood why people cared what fictional character was written to be stronger. I could make up a character right now who could kick both their asses at the same time.
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Tropicalwood
03/04/18 11:48:21 PM
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DK9292 posted...
And Arale can beat both.

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St0rmFury
03/04/18 11:49:15 PM
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a42ozslushie posted...
I never understood why people cared what fictional character was written to be stronger. I could make up a character right now who could kick both their asses at the same time.

No need for that, we already have Saitama.
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AsianFury2020
03/04/18 11:54:32 PM
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salandrews
03/04/18 11:55:43 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
salandrews posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
jumi posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Goku's not dodging something that can encompass an entire planet like heat vision.

Nor is he dodging something at light speed.

Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Goku has to stop and think and lock onto ki to do that.

Only for traveling long distances. He doesn't need to do that when he only plans on moving behind someone in a fight.


Flat out false. IT has always required some prep. Otherwise it would be the answer to literally all combat scenarios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-4F8za3sdo


Literally being used in a fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwoltkx_bU4


That one has Goku using it while blasting at Gohan.


Latest episode literally states Goku can't do it when he is defending against jirens barrage.

Its not a passive skill. DB is wildly inconsistent but IT has been more often than not stated/shown to need a degree of prep.
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NOM
03/04/18 11:58:38 PM
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Supes would still stomp that vanilla midget.
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jumi
03/05/18 12:01:09 AM
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NOM posted...
Supes would still stomp that vanilla midget.


Vanilla. Saiyans are basically Japanese and Superman is literally white.
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Knowledge_King
03/05/18 1:27:27 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Isn't instant transmission a thing? And that's something that base form Goku can do?


Yeah? He has to think about it. Meaning it's slower than light speed in combat.
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The_Weird_Gamer
03/05/18 1:32:55 PM
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Yes, now Goku will beat Superman. It's silly to think otherwise.

That being said, how sad that fanboys have to follow years of Goku's irrational and exponential power gains for it. Goku has to basically be written by a 2nd grader that keeps saying "yeah well i'm infinity plus one stronger" to beat him

Does anyone really win here
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Panthera
03/05/18 1:39:47 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
a42ozslushie posted...
I never understood why people cared what fictional character was written to be stronger. I could make up a character right now who could kick both their asses at the same time.

No need for that, we already have Saitama.


And Popeye
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