Poll of the Day > Another day, another school shooting in the US.

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Jen0125
03/02/18 10:57:32 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/central-michigan-university-shots-fired/index.html
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Bear
03/02/18 11:07:38 AM
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at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings
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Jen0125
03/02/18 11:09:42 AM
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Bear posted...
at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings


It's not. This is legit the state of the US.
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Muscles
03/02/18 11:11:27 AM
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Bear posted...
at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings

Wouldn't they all just be copy cats of Columbine? I mean that really set off this trend
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BeerOnTap
03/02/18 11:13:44 AM
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And people are expected to cower in fear, and wait for the police to come and save them. Cuz, you know, the police did such a fabulous job in parkland.

This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones. When your life is on the line, and seconds count, government has proven time and time again that they cannot protect you. No law, no bureaucrat can save you in that moment.
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Andromicus
03/02/18 11:14:04 AM
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Bear posted...
at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings

It's a stand alone complex
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Jen0125
03/02/18 11:15:17 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
And people are expected to cower in fear, and wait for the police to come and save them. Cuz, you know, the police did such a fabulous job in parkland.

This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones. When your life is on the line, and seconds count, government has proven time and time again that they cannot protect you. No law, no bureaucrat can save you in that moment.


Cool. You realize if there was heavily restricted access to guns these types of things would be less frequent? The issue isn't that there aren't enough guns in the US lmao.
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knivesX2004
03/02/18 11:33:17 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones.

Right? I carry my gun with my to airports and CPAC because it keeps me safe from bullets.

I also drink on school campuses because I'm over 21 and nobody can take away my right to drink.
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SunWuKung420
03/02/18 11:36:58 AM
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Jen, stop being a shill for disarming the populace.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 11:41:16 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Cool. You realize if there was heavily restricted access to guns these types of things would be less frequent? The issue isn't that there aren't enough guns in the US lmao.


Wrong Jen, because I'm comfortable owning and carrying a gun around, everybody else should be comfortable with it! People carry their phones, keys and wallets with them, what's the difference really?
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 11:51:13 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
And people are expected to cower in fear, and wait for the police to come and save them. Cuz, you know, the police did such a fabulous job in parkland.

This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones. When your life is on the line, and seconds count, government has proven time and time again that they cannot protect you. No law, no bureaucrat can save you in that moment.


Have you ever been at the site of a mass shooting? How can you know how you'd actually react?

Oh, I guess you don't need to know what it's like since you're Mr. Big Hero with a concealed carry permit. Man, you're so brave, owning a gun. How noble.
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OneGrumpyUncle
03/02/18 11:55:50 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Cool. You realize if there was heavily restricted access to guns these types of things would be less frequent? The issue isn't that there aren't enough guns in the US lmao.


yes because criminals and people bound and determined to kill someone are really worried about what the law says about owning an illegal firearm. We all know that works so well with Heroin, Crack Cocaine, and Meth.
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Andromicus
03/02/18 11:58:07 AM
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OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Cool. You realize if there was heavily restricted access to guns these types of things would be less frequent? The issue isn't that there aren't enough guns in the US lmao.


yes because criminals and people bound and determined to kill someone are really worried about what the law says about owning an illegal firearm. We all know that works so well with Heroin, Crack Cocaine, and Meth.

You're right why even have laws if criminals ignore them
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lihlih
03/02/18 12:01:06 PM
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OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Cool. You realize if there was heavily restricted access to guns these types of things would be less frequent? The issue isn't that there aren't enough guns in the US lmao.


yes because criminals and people bound and determined to kill someone are really worried about what the law says about owning an illegal firearm. We all know that works so well with Heroin, Crack Cocaine, and Meth.


Yeah, I guess every other 1st world country having close to nil gun deaths doesn't prove anything. What about the fact that Australia had pretty lax gun laws until they decided to change it, and had a dramatic decrease in gun violence? Nah, we shouldn't follow suit, why lower gun violence when we can shout murica and just watch our youth keep getting killed?
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knivesX2004
03/02/18 12:01:15 PM
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Reports are saying suspect shot his parents.
Suspect is black and 19.
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FatalAccident
03/02/18 12:02:36 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
And people are expected to cower in fear, and wait for the police to come and save them. Cuz, you know, the police did such a fabulous job in parkland.

This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones. When your life is on the line, and seconds count, government has proven time and time again that they cannot protect you. No law, no bureaucrat can save you in that moment.


lol too many guns in the US?
I know!
lets have even more guns
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FatalAccident
03/02/18 12:02:46 PM
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thats seriously what u sound like right now
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Ferarri619
03/02/18 12:03:52 PM
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Andromicus posted...
Bear posted...
at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings

It's a stand alone complex


The Laughing Man?

BeerOnTap posted...
This is why I carry. And this is why law abiding, concealed carry permit holders should be able to carry in school zones. When your life is on the line, and seconds count, government has proven time and time again that they cannot protect you. No law, no bureaucrat can save you in that moment.


Given your name is BeerOnTap I trust you will be Duke Nukem when the time comes.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:04:08 PM
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Oh man I didn't expect somebody to compare guns to drugs! Shit he got us good!

In case you don't understand why this is a dumb false equivalency, for starters, people don't get physically addicted to guns. People don't risk dying from withdrawal symptoms if they go too long without access to guns. There is an entirely different set of motivation and methodology behind doing drugs.
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KnoxKorner
03/02/18 12:04:44 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
Reports are saying suspect shot his parents.
Suspect is black and 19.


Oh in that case....

In other news today...
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OneGrumpyUncle
03/02/18 12:06:38 PM
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Andromicus posted...
You're right why even have laws if criminals ignore them


Wrong have laws. Have stricter background checks that include mental illness history, go ahead and even raise the age to buy any Semi-automatic weapon to 21. Those are intelligent gun reform changes.
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Jen0125
03/02/18 12:11:24 PM
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OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Those are intelligent gun reform changes.


but didn't you know there is only literally everyone has 100 guns or no one has ANY guns? there is NO sensible middle ground. duh.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:12:39 PM
#23:


OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Wrong have laws.


That's... not what your original post conveyed. Why would you say something stupid and then get mad for being made fun of for it and then say something that contradicts what you originally said? What was the point of your first post? Were you just trying to "take that liberals!" without thinking about whether or not you actually agreed with them?
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AC_Dragonfire
03/02/18 12:16:41 PM
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2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:19:58 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I know you like watching alt-right commentators on YouTube, so I can understand saying something stupid, but at least the stupid things those guys say are comprehensible.
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Jen0125
03/02/18 12:24:22 PM
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AC_Dragonfire posted...
2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.


wut
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OneGrumpyUncle
03/02/18 12:24:44 PM
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SteamedHams posted...
OneGrumpyUncle posted...
Wrong have laws.


That's... not what your original post conveyed. Why would you say something stupid and then get mad for being made fun of for it and then say something that contradicts what you originally said? What was the point of your first post? Were you just trying to "take that liberals!" without thinking about whether or not you actually agreed with them?


no my original post was merely trying to point out that with any law there are always going to be sick or determined people that don't give a damn are going to violate them. Merely making something illegal isn't a be all and end all solution, smarter legal solutions to the problem would be a better approach. Why is it so hard to see that getting the both sides to work together towards a common goal instead of a its all or nothing approach is so much better.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:28:04 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
AC_Dragonfire posted...
2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.


wut


I think what he's trying to imply is something extremely racist, but I won't bother to explain since I don't want to be responsible for that. Maybe I'm the racist for thinking it, but... come on, he has the phrase "civil war" in there, so I don't know what else I'm supposed to conclude from a vague post.
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LittleRoyal
03/02/18 12:28:07 PM
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Bear posted...
at this point I'm thinking it's copycat shootings

Basically. It was very very rare a while ago, but its becoming more common each time a big one happens, and when people get their name all over the news and etc, more happen

Its very rarely as often as its been these last few weeks.

Its really sad.

My hometown, all the schools went on lockdown the other day because of threats but thankfully, it turned out the girl was lying because she wanted to be in the news.

I was scared even though I dont knkw anyone in those schools anymore.
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AC_Dragonfire
03/02/18 12:28:30 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
AC_Dragonfire posted...
2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.

wut

It's just a theory. The more logical theory would be if not stated already; The 19 year old kid who's barely lived any adult life had enough life problems that he would actually kill people in his community. I don't think some people can comprehend the feeling of being "stuck" in life where it feels like it rots ya from the inside out. How this dude dealt with it was the most extreme reaction possible.
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Jen0125
03/02/18 12:28:51 PM
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SteamedHams posted...
Jen0125 posted...
AC_Dragonfire posted...
2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.


wut


I think what he's trying to imply is something extremely racist, but I won't bother to explain since I don't want to be responsible for that. Maybe I'm the racist for thinking it, but... come on, he has the phrase "civil war" in there, so I don't know what else I'm supposed to conclude from a vague post.


i feel like he's saying it's a "false flag" attack because michigan was so close in the polls that the liberals are staging shootings to cause a shift? idk though.
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OhhhJa
03/02/18 12:28:51 PM
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Sweet headline bro
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LittleRoyal
03/02/18 12:31:59 PM
#33:


Jen0125 posted...
SteamedHams posted...
Jen0125 posted...
AC_Dragonfire posted...
2016 Michigan Presidential Election Results
R D. Trump47.6%2,279,805
D H. Clinton47.3%2,268,193

This seems like a civil war case instead of just "another school shooting" which is a label of wide generalizations.


wut


I think what he's trying to imply is something extremely racist, but I won't bother to explain since I don't want to be responsible for that. Maybe I'm the racist for thinking it, but... come on, he has the phrase "civil war" in there, so I don't know what else I'm supposed to conclude from a vague post.


i feel like he's saying it's a "false flag" attack because michigan was so close in the polls that the liberals are staging shootings to cause a shift? idk though.


I think hes saying the state is splitting between democrats and republicans are actually going after each other. Unless Im wrong, I didnt think that poster was one of those fake shooting conspiracy fools.

Civil war is not a racist term. 1. In America the only civil war was about economy/money (mostly that the north wanted to get money from cotton, even though the south grew it all, and it was really hard back then)

2. Most Civil wars have nothing to do with race.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:34:32 PM
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AC_Dragonfire posted...
It's just a theory. The more logical theory would be if not stated already


No, don't backpedal, please explain your possibly racist conjecture in much less vague terms.
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LittleRoyal
03/02/18 12:36:20 PM
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SteamedHams posted...
AC_Dragonfire posted...
It's just a theory. The more logical theory would be if not stated already


No, don't backpedal, please explain your possibly racist conjecture in much less vague terms.

Like I said. Civil war isnt a racist term at all. I dont agree with what he seems to be saying but theres nothing racist about civil wars
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:41:28 PM
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I thought he was implying that the black shooter was committing some kind of politically-motivated violence because Trump won the state. I didn't want to say it because it sounds really bad, but I don't know what else I was supposed to draw from his post. And he has a history of posting a lot of terms and talking points that are popular with the alt-right.
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kukukupo
03/02/18 12:44:38 PM
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This isn't really a 'school shooting'.

More like a shooting that just so happened to happen on campus.
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SteamedHams
03/02/18 12:46:43 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
I think hes saying the state is splitting between democrats and republicans are actually going after each other.


I mean... that's a little more innocuous than how I said it, but the implications could still be bad. Would he still say that if it was a white shooter? And regardless, it's a stupid conclusion to draw that just because millions of people are relatively split in an election, you can pin down a sample size of a few people as being a reflection of that political landscape with very little knowledge of the shooting.
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JennyBear
03/02/18 12:49:49 PM
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Zangulus posted...
kukukupo posted...
This isn't really a 'school shooting'.

More like a shooting that just so happened to happen on campus.


A shooting on a school campus is not a school shooting. News at 11.


yeah i don't get these semantics arguments

did it happen at a school? yes. was it perpetrated by a student of that school? yes.
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Blighboy
03/02/18 12:55:52 PM
#41:


SteamedHams posted...
I'm the racist

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OhhhJa
03/02/18 1:02:34 PM
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I find it funny when people compare us to "the rest of the developed world" in situations like this... because it's totally fair to compare an almost completely homogenous country the size of one US state with less than 10 million people to a country with over 400 million people from all parts of the world
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kukukupo
03/02/18 1:04:08 PM
#43:


JennyBear posted...
Zangulus posted...
kukukupo posted...
This isn't really a 'school shooting'.

More like a shooting that just so happened to happen on campus.


A shooting on a school campus is not a school shooting. News at 11.


yeah i don't get these semantics arguments

did it happen at a school? yes. was it perpetrated by a student of that school? yes.


Was the shooter trying to kill students? No

Would we consider this a school shooting if he had gotten in the car with his parents and shot them 5 miles from campus? No

Guns / school shooting issues don't really play into this story. Could just as easily have been a kid knifing his parents when they came in the room, poisoning them when they got home, etc. He was going to off his parents - he wasn't going to shoot up the school.
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JennyBear
03/02/18 1:13:35 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I find it funny when people compare us to "the rest of the developed world" in situations like this... because it's totally fair to compare an almost completely homogenous country the size of one US state with less than 10 million people to a country with over 400 million people from all parts of the world


there's 323 million people in the us

and we have universal laws already that apply to every single person in this country.
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JennyBear
03/02/18 1:14:23 PM
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kukukupo posted...
Was the shooter trying to kill students? No

Would we consider this a school shooting if he had gotten in the car with his parents and shot them 5 miles from campus? No

Guns / school shooting issues don't really play into this story. Could just as easily have been a kid knifing his parents when they came in the room, poisoning them when they got home, etc. He was going to off his parents - he wasn't going to shoot up the school.


what does it matter if he killed students or not? it happened on a school campus.

no you wouldn't call that a school shooting because it didn't happen on school grounds.

glad i could clarify these glaringly obvious points for you.
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ImmortalityV
03/02/18 1:17:07 PM
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Stop making these topics. We get it you hate guns. Most of us Americans would rather live free without tyranny with a few incidents than under a police state
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SinisterSlay
03/02/18 1:17:32 PM
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At this point i wouldn't blame parents for insisting on home schooling, and wearing bullet proof jackets at school
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JennyBear
03/02/18 1:18:40 PM
#48:


ImmortalityV posted...
Stop making these topics.


no.
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ImmortalityV
03/02/18 1:19:37 PM
#49:


JennyBear posted...
ImmortalityV posted...
Stop making these topics.


no.

I demand that you stop.
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JennyBear
03/02/18 1:22:23 PM
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i don't give a shit about anything that you want
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