Current Events > Link V Cloud DeathBattle still hands down the fucking worst battle ever.

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PlsGodDontBanMe
02/28/18 11:13:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o2SV6ynJYQ


Literal Z Targeting.

Literally

Jesus christ

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Anisoptera
02/28/18 11:14:08 PM
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Scout vs Tracer
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FightingGames
02/28/18 11:16:03 PM
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The biggest problem is that Cloud only got his stock items while Link was fully equipped with his post-game items. If Cloud had a 4x Mine+Counter materia combo with Omnislash, Link would have been destroyed
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cuttin_in_farm
02/28/18 11:17:32 PM
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Toph vs Gaara tho.
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PlsGodDontBanMe
02/28/18 11:53:29 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Toph vs Gaara tho.


Havent seen it but yeah ive heard thats bullshit too

But link vs cloud is two iconic characters and one got royally fucking shafted while the other character literally had a game mechanic involved that should have never even been mentioned, let alone used at such a critical juncture
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Anisoptera
02/28/18 11:57:55 PM
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Toph can bend all forms of Earth. Why wouldn't she be able to defeat Gaara?
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Doe
02/28/18 11:58:53 PM
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Anisoptera posted...
Scout vs Tracer

This was embarrassing. They straight up got tf2 lore wrong on several factors so it didn't even make sense
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Zeeak4444
03/01/18 12:04:26 AM
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They gave cloud a ribbon for accessory so he's immune to all debuffs.

Proceeded to get frozen by links arrow.

What garbage is this.
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Wedge Antilles
03/01/18 12:06:23 AM
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They've made it clear the fight itself is just for entertainment value and isn't meant to be exactly how the fight plays out.
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Onepunch-Man
03/01/18 12:08:43 AM
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Doe
03/01/18 12:13:07 AM
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Wedge Antilles posted...
They've made it clear the fight itself is just for entertainment value and isn't meant to be exactly how the fight plays out.

I don't think that's the issue. It's just that their logic and facts are often completely fallacious or wrong.

It's already silly territory to compare characters from universes that have different rules, so when they're so imprecise or downright wrong about some facts it completely crumbles whatever fragile points they make
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Azardea
03/01/18 12:21:27 AM
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Yeah, let's give Link items from several of the games, even if they're clearly different characters, but Cloud can only use basic items from one game. That's fair.
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ultimate reaver
03/01/18 12:23:01 AM
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those things have always seemed like something i'd enjoy back when i was a middle schooler watching stick figures and madness combat on newgrounds
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GiftedACIII
03/01/18 12:23:08 AM
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Dante vs Bayonetta when the creator himself said Bayonetta is way stronger.
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im not 13
03/01/18 12:25:17 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Dante vs Bayonetta when the creator himself said Bayonetta is way stronger.


Which creator?
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GiftedACIII
03/01/18 12:26:41 AM
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im not 13 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Dante vs Bayonetta when the creator himself said Bayonetta is way stronger.


Which creator?

Both. It's the same person, Hideki Kamiya.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/01/18 12:26:42 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Dante vs Bayonetta when the creator himself said Bayonetta is way stronger.


No he didn't. Nor is this one of the questionable fights.
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ZombiePelican
03/01/18 12:28:38 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Dante vs Bayonetta when the creator himself said Bayonetta is way stronger.

I feel like Kamiya would block you for mentioning this to him
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Zeeak4444
03/01/18 12:29:26 AM
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We're missing the point guys.

Ribbon... still frozen.... how do you fuck up that badly.
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im not 13
03/01/18 12:31:29 AM
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I think one of the creators said they purposely make controversial results for the yt views

I pretty much stopped taking the show seriously at that point...not that I did much in the first place
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lilORANG
03/01/18 12:36:28 AM
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Buu vs kirby
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YellowSUV
03/01/18 2:19:11 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Buu vs kirby


Buu wasn't even that strong in DBZ. It kept going on because the Z Fighters acted like a bunch of jobbers even more than usual.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/01/18 8:11:58 AM
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im not 13 posted...
I think one of the creators said they purposely make controversial results for the yt views

I pretty much stopped taking the show seriously at that point...not that I did much in the first place


Can you guys stop making shit up?
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jumi
03/01/18 8:30:02 AM
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FightingGames posted...
The biggest problem is that Cloud only got his stock items while Link was fully equipped with his post-game items. If Cloud had a 4x Mine+Counter materia combo with Omnislash, Link would have been destroyed


This. Ribbon was good. Buster Sword and Tough Ring are garbage. Should have Ultima Weapon or First Tsurugi and Mystile. Also his materia was garbage.

If Link dropped his sword and tried to grab it with the hookshot, Cloud would cut his arm off.

Wonder Woman vs. Rogue was pretty garbage too.
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DevsBro
03/01/18 8:47:45 AM
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It's been a while but yeah that one was terrible. I remember having these issues with it:

Laughably unbalanced item selection. Even if they did it because, as they claim, they gave each their most iconic equipment, since when are those materia Cloud's most iconic? He should have, like, KotR and maybe Comet or something.

Ribbon, frozen, etc.

Per Kingdom Hearts, Cloud has superarmor during Omnislash so Link shouldn't have been able to interrupt it.

Most of these are dumb, tbh, but this one was just shameless.
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gmanthebest
03/01/18 8:59:23 AM
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It sucks that we get shitty and flat out wrong results like this, and then stuff that's super researched and right like Superman vs. Goku.
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im not 13
03/01/18 9:03:21 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
It sucks that we get shitty and flat out wrong results like this, and then stuff that's super researched and right like Superman vs. Goku.


What are you saying

That Superman V Goku was researched? Lmao.
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gmanthebest
03/01/18 9:06:04 AM
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im not 13 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
It sucks that we get shitty and flat out wrong results like this, and then stuff that's super researched and right like Superman vs. Goku.


What are you saying

That Superman V Goku was researched? Lmao.

Found the Goku fanboy
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s0nicfan
03/01/18 9:06:07 AM
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The DeathBattle method of "research":
1. Come up with a pairing
2. Figure out which winner would piss off the most people
3. Retroactively equip the characters to produce said result
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DevsBro
03/01/18 9:08:28 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
The DeathBattle method of "research":
1. Come up with a pairing
2. Figure out which winner would piss off the most people
3. Retroactively equip the characters to produce said result

I think it's more like which ones is just plain wrong rather than which would piss off the most people. Afterall, Link has won the Character Battle like 35 times.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/01/18 9:10:17 AM
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jumi posted...
Wonder Woman vs. Rogue was pretty garbage too.


Yeah, Wonder Woman would have killed her before she could absorb enough of her power. Also, sword.
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im not 13
03/01/18 9:11:51 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Found the Goku fanboy


They use "planet busting" as a method of strength measurement

Vegeta and Nappa used to blow up planets for fun so using that to measure either Goku or Superman is void

That's just one of the many flaws of their "research" I can keep going if you wish.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/01/18 9:11:58 AM
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im not 13 posted...


What are you saying

That Superman V Goku was researched? Lmao.


More research than you've done. Superman is several factors stronger, there's no fucking debate here. The most you Goku fanboys can do is link to JL cartoons. "Well, in his weakest showing . . ."
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im not 13
03/01/18 9:14:36 AM
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Lmao what's the need to call me a fanboy? I enjoy both DC comics and Dragonball but I am hardly a fanboy of either

I'm saying their research is dogshit. Who won doesn't matter much to me
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gmanthebest
03/01/18 9:16:24 AM
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im not 13 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Found the Goku fanboy


They use "planet busting" as a method of strength measurement

Vegeta and Nappa used to blow up planets for fun so using that to measure either Goku or Superman is void

That's just one of the many flaws of their "research" I can keep going if you wish.

It's ok kid, you're upset, I get it. I like Goku too, but it's easy to admit that Supes would crush him 10 out of 10 times.
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s0nicfan
03/01/18 9:18:14 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
More research than you've done. Superman is several factors stronger, there's no fucking debate here.


It comes down to the numbers which is why people rate Goku so high. Vegeta at a PL of 18k was capable of blowing up the planet. Goku by the end of Z was about 44,000,000,000, or roughly 2,444,444X stronger than planet busting.

Toriyama was always awful at consistency, which is why it's always been such a huge debate. By the books Goku should be the clear winner but by actual feats he's been hurt by a stone being tossed at his head while in SSJ.
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im not 13
03/01/18 9:19:20 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
It's ok kid, you're upset, I get it. I like Goku too, but it's easy to admit that Supes would crush him 10 out of 10 times.


Did I say anything to the contrary?

I said their research was poor, not the outcome of the fight

But yeah, keep spouting nonsense by all means.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
03/01/18 9:32:57 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
More research than you've done. Superman is several factors stronger, there's no fucking debate here.


It comes down to the numbers which is why people rate Goku so high. Vegeta at a PL of 18k was capable of blowing up the planet. Goku by the end of Z was about 44,000,000,000, or roughly 2,444,444X stronger than planet busting.

Toriyama was always awful at consistency, which is why it's always been such a huge debate. By the books Goku should be the clear winner but by actual feats he's been hurt by a stone being tossed at his head while in SSJ.


18k is enough to destroy a planet.
Farmer with the gun was 5 iirc.

Any you think power levels scale linearly? LOL
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jumi
03/01/18 9:33:33 AM
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Buu vs. Kirby was horseshit too. Buu can body anyone at the end of DBZ, and he has magic and regeneration. Kirby = candy.
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omega cookie
03/01/18 9:43:08 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
It's ok kid

Imagine trying to talk down to someone when you're arguing about Superman vs Goku.

Is it even possible to lack self awareness on that level and still be sentient?
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im not 13
03/01/18 9:45:10 AM
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jumi posted...
Buu vs. Kirby was horseshit too. Buu can body anyone at the end of DBZ, and he has magic and regeneration. Kirby = candy.


Buu destroyed entire galaxies for fun might I add.
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