Board 8 > trying to finally play persona 5

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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:02:54 PM
#101:


ok so it seems like the only one I can make that's worthwhile is pixie + jackolantern, which gets me an incubus

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LordoftheMorons
03/02/18 4:03:38 PM
#102:


You can only carry a limited number of personas at a time, so don't be hesitant about fusing them. You can also pay some money to retrieve copies of personas you previously owned.

One thing you should try to do is keep a persona of the same arcana as whoever you're developing social links with on hand (since it makes the social links level up faster). E.g. if you're planning on hanging out with Ryuji make sure to have a chariot persona with you (doesn't need to be equipped).
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:04:45 PM
#103:


oh but I dont have a devil confidant

is that still worth it then?
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:08:13 PM
#104:


aw it doesn't let me see what everyone is

oh wait I can just look them up

so I'm only level 5, there's only one available at lvl 5 and I dont have a confidant for it

the rest are low level or just above mine

can I do this anytime or does it have to be done at the beginning of dungeons?
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:08:35 PM
#105:


oh I HAVE to do one now

hmmm
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:10:43 PM
#106:


god this is fucked up
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trdl23
03/02/18 4:12:18 PM
#107:


Johnbobb posted...
oh but I dont have a devil confidant

is that still worth it then?

You wont get that confidant for quite a while. Go ahead and do it.

Remember that the persona you create by fusion can themselves become fusion material for even stronger personas later.

Also, make sure you know how the compendium works. You need to register personas that have changed since last time you visited the Velvet Room. However, this also means that if you bond with a baseline persona in a Palace, you might accidentally overwrite your awesome leveled-up persona you made beforehand if you just blindly register it!
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 4:12:18 PM
#108:


You'll be able access the Velvet Room outside of dungeons too. A doorway will appear near the airsoft shop at some point soon.

Which means you can go there anytime before you hang out with a confidant in case you forget to grab a persona of the right arcana before leaving a dungeon.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:13:45 PM
#109:


trdl23 posted...
Also, make sure you know how the compendium works. You need to register personas that have changed since last time you visited the Velvet Room. However, this also means that if you bond with a baseline persona in a Palace, you might accidentally overwrite your awesome leveled-up persona you made beforehand if you just blindly register it!

wait what
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Sceptilesolar
03/02/18 4:17:17 PM
#110:


It's a mechanic you don't have access to yet so don't worry about it.
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NFUN
03/02/18 4:17:37 PM
#111:


Johnbobb posted...
trdl23 posted...
Also, make sure you know how the compendium works. You need to register personas that have changed since last time you visited the Velvet Room. However, this also means that if you bond with a baseline persona in a Palace, you might accidentally overwrite your awesome leveled-up persona you made beforehand if you just blindly register it!

wait what

you can save a copy of a persona but if you get a new weak version of that persona later you might accidentally overwrite the data of the good persona
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 4:19:04 PM
#112:


Johnbobb posted...
trdl23 posted...
Also, make sure you know how the compendium works. You need to register personas that have changed since last time you visited the Velvet Room. However, this also means that if you bond with a baseline persona in a Palace, you might accidentally overwrite your awesome leveled-up persona you made beforehand if you just blindly register it!

wait what

When you fuse a new persona or gain a new persona from talking, it's automatically registered into the compendium as is.

When you level up a person and learn new skills and get stat bonuses, those changes AREN'T automatically registered. You have to do it yourself in the Velvet Room. So if you leveled up a persona and it learned new skills, make sure to register it before you fuse it into something else, so that way if you want to rebuy it, it'll still have those skills and stat boosts.

What that also means is if you fuse away some cool demon, but then you acquire it again through talking or whatever and it's just the base form without any new skills, be careful NOT to register that one since it will overwrite the cool one and you'll lose whatever development it used to have.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:22:57 PM
#113:


OH

ok, got it now
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:25:22 PM
#114:


wait I asked for money

why did I get the mask instead
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 4:33:15 PM
#115:


I asked for her power and she gave me rancid gravy
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 4:33:22 PM
#116:


Personas don't play by the rules.
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BowserCuffs
03/02/18 4:40:01 PM
#117:


Demons are pretty capricious characters, and Shadows/Personas are basically demons of the mind.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 5:17:29 PM
#118:


10 hours in

at like the 3rd safe room I think of jersey teacher's castle

game's slowly starting to make more sense

Is there any way to increase my SP beyond just returning to the real world? It seems like that's what might make this take multiple days.
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tabiicat42
03/02/18 5:19:11 PM
#119:


Johnbobb posted...
10 hours in

at like the 3rd safe room I think of jersey teacher's castle

game's slowly starting to make more sense

Is there any way to increase my SP beyond just returning to the real world? It seems like that's what might make this take multiple days.

At some point you can get SP recovery items, I'm not sure if that's gated behind an event or social link.
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LeonhartFour
03/02/18 5:19:22 PM
#120:


The first dungeon is one of the hardest in the game, so don't feel bad if it takes you a while to get through it. You'll be able to maintain your SP better as the game goes along.
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Tokoyami
03/02/18 5:22:23 PM
#121:


Also getting Takemi SL going eventually lets you buy an equip item to gradual restore your SP every turn in battle
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 5:23:09 PM
#122:


The doctor social link will let you buy accessories that have SP-regen eventually.
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Not_an_Owl
03/02/18 5:27:26 PM
#123:


mnkboy907 posted...
The doctor social link will let you buy accessories that have SP-regen eventually.

AKA the best accessories in the game. They're really expensive but oh so incredibly worth it, to the point where I put them on my active party and didn't take them off for the entire game.

Also some of the vending machine drinks you can buy in the real world will restore a little SP. They're valuable because most SP-restoring items are rare and expensive.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 5:28:24 PM
#124:


is that what ends days though? In discord everyone said to expect castles to take anywhere from like 2-4 days to complete. So what determines when a day ends for a castle?
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LeonhartFour
03/02/18 5:29:20 PM
#125:


Johnbobb posted...
is that what ends days though? In discord everyone said to expect castles to take anywhere from like 2-4 days to complete. So what determines when a day ends for a castle?


You can leave whenever you want after the first couple times where they force you to leave.
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Not_an_Owl
03/02/18 5:30:04 PM
#126:


Johnbobb posted...
is that what ends days though? In discord everyone said to expect castles to take anywhere from like 2-4 days to complete. So what determines when a day ends for a castle?

If you're in a Palace the day ends when you leave. Usually this is your choice; during the introduction for each Palace there's a sequence on rails where you'll go through a few rooms and then your characters make you leave. Sometimes you have to leave a Palace to progress further, but the game is always good about telling you when that's going to happen.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 5:30:21 PM
#127:


but why would you want to leave?
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Not_an_Owl
03/02/18 5:31:22 PM
#128:


Johnbobb posted...
but why would you want to leave?

Because you ran out of SP, usually. It's really hard to get anything done when you can't use any skills.
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LeonhartFour
03/02/18 5:31:30 PM
#129:


Johnbobb posted...
but why would you want to leave?


because you run out of items and therefore you will die instead of finishing it

I mean some people try to finish it on one go so it's technically possible
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 5:32:06 PM
#130:


Early on it's because you run out of SP and ways to heal yourself.
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Johnbobb
03/02/18 5:37:58 PM
#131:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Sometimes you have to leave a Palace to progress further, but the game is always good about telling you when that's going to happen.

oh ok cool

seems weird to end the day intentionally because I feel like if I don't get as far as possible then I'm wasting time that could've been spent on real world social stuff
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Grand Kirby
03/02/18 5:39:48 PM
#132:


I always just finish it in one day unless you're forced out.

It kind of sucks to reach a point where you think "oh this is good place to take a break" and leave only to come back and find out right after that was a place where you're forced to take a break and leave anyway.
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LeonhartFour
03/02/18 5:41:41 PM
#133:


Johnbobb posted...
seems weird to end the day intentionally because I feel like if I don't get as far as possible then I'm wasting time that could've been spent on real world social stuff


well yeah that's the conundrum the game forces upon you
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mnkboy907
03/02/18 5:53:43 PM
#134:


There are a couple social links that really help with time management, that are really handy to level up quickly. I'll spoiler them in case you don't want unasked for help like this.

Fortune: It unlocks an option that gives you bonus points for social link progression once per day (for a $5000 fee) without passing any time.
Temperance: It unlocks various methods of giving you more free time for reading/crafting, or getting SP-restoring items/equipment, and eventually it'll give you your nights back after leaving the metaverse. The SP items require some development of the Hierophant link though.


What's great about P5 compared to P3/P4 is every social link in the game gives you some benefit to gameplay. It's just some are more beneficial than others.
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Not_an_Owl
03/02/18 5:55:35 PM
#135:


Johnbobb posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
Sometimes you have to leave a Palace to progress further, but the game is always good about telling you when that's going to happen.

oh ok cool

seems weird to end the day intentionally because I feel like if I don't get as far as possible then I'm wasting time that could've been spent on real world social stuff

To clarify, the way it works is you'll reach a big impassable obstacle, there'll be a cutscene where your characters say "hey I know how to deal with this, let's go home", and you'll be free to wander the Palace killing shadows and collecting small-T treasure all you want but unable to make progress towards the big-T Treasure until you leave and come back.
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AquaArcane
03/02/18 10:23:48 PM
#136:


Grand Kirby posted...
It kind of sucks to reach a point where you think "oh this is good place to take a break" and leave only to come back and find out right after that was a place where you're forced to take a break and leave anyway.

Yeah this shit sucks

On that note I hope you're keeping multiple saves, I would have at least three
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 3:35:37 PM
#137:


Heavenly Punisher beaten

it seems to be hinting at me to leave the dungeon, not sure if I should because I feel like I'm close, but I also am getting super low on sp
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 3:39:49 PM
#138:


ok now I'm surrounded and out of magic and barely staying alive

MIGHT want to retreat
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 4:24:46 PM
#139:


really regretting not making more lockpicks

already came across 3 chests I couldn't open :/

also palace is getting weird and distorted now

and a bunch of sculptures of butts and busts, classy
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 4:36:58 PM
#140:


scythe bridge?

come on now
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trdl23
03/03/18 4:58:21 PM
#141:


Johnbobb posted...
really regretting not making more lockpicks

already came across 3 chests I couldn't open :/

also palace is getting weird and distorted now

and a bunch of sculptures of butts and busts, classy

Youll have at least one more chance to get those!

Yeah... things can get weird as you approach the Treasure.
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 4:58:49 PM
#142:


...did I just beat a fat slime penis
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trdl23
03/03/18 5:00:37 PM
#143:


Yes, yes you did.
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 5:03:26 PM
#144:


ugh

I'm just before the throne room, but I'm getting low on health and magic again

I don't want to leave now though because I'll come back for literally one battle I think?

and also I think I come back here again after, so that'd put it at 4 days for the palace
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 5:07:12 PM
#145:


oh it's forcing me out anyway

ok
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 6:38:48 PM
#146:


planning to send a calling card takes an entire day?

weird
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Johnbobb
03/03/18 6:40:07 PM
#147:


also how much do you have to do in each category to change your stat ranks

I'm tired of being milquetoast
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NFUN
03/03/18 6:41:18 PM
#148:


alright you're further than I am good luck
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Reg
03/03/18 6:45:21 PM
#149:


IIRC 1->2 is the slowest gain for all social stats, so it'll be a bit.

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Johnbobb
03/03/18 6:56:04 PM
#150:


why is the cat trying to fuck the crown
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