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cnekans 02/24/18 9:18:33 AM #1: |
80/80
But yeah I havent played the original KH since 2004, I couldnt beat her so I just stopped playing Now Im stuck on the chernabog --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dragnmaninferno 02/24/18 9:21:45 AM #2: |
wow
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cnekans 02/24/18 9:25:20 AM #3: |
dragnmaninferno posted...
wow I was a child who was bad at games. Any advice though --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dragnmaninferno 02/24/18 9:26:00 AM #4: |
I barely remember.
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cnekans 02/24/18 9:26:43 AM #5: |
Now I need to find aeroaga
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Behaviorism 02/24/18 9:36:53 AM #6: |
Do you need some help?
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 9:37:07 AM #7: |
IIRC the cheapest strategy is to summon Tinkerbell and then park yourself on one of the vines at the edge of the arena while waiting for Goofy to whittle her HP down.
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CapnMuffin 02/24/18 9:37:12 AM #8: |
No one tell him about the Platinum Cup.
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Ving_Rhames 02/24/18 9:37:42 AM #9: |
Tinkerbell is overpowered, use her when you have trouble.
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_BlueMonk 02/24/18 9:37:48 AM #10: |
i beat that when i was 12 dude
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masterpug53 02/24/18 9:44:10 AM #11: |
Should only take you fifty years to beat the Titans and Sephiroth, then ^^
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cnekans 02/24/18 9:47:25 AM #12: |
She actually wasnt as hard as I remember. I just have an issue with chernabog making the volcano explode
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 9:49:29 AM #13: |
cnekans posted...
She actually wasnt as hard as I remember. I just have an issue with chernabog making the volcano explode ...wut --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/24/18 9:50:36 AM #14: |
BLAKUboy posted...
cnekans posted...She actually wasnt as hard as I remember. I just have an issue with chernabog making the volcano explode The big dude from Fantasia. He sits in a volcano. He makes it explode every so often and it just wipes my health completely. --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 9:58:31 AM #16: |
Oh, I didn't initially read the last line of your OP. I thought we were still talking about Maleficent.
Chernabog just requires you to retreat every so often, he's not very hard once you get the timing down. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 02/24/18 9:58:35 AM #17: |
Chernabog is piss easy. That whole game is pretty easy actually
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 10:04:14 AM #18: |
BlueBoy675 posted...
Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Every boss becomes a joke Kinda a worthless strategy for Chernabog though, since I don't even recall him having an attack other than the eruption. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/24/18 10:05:22 AM #19: |
BLAKUboy posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Every boss becomes a joke Eruption, fire breath, and fireballs --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 02/24/18 10:06:56 AM #20: |
cnekans posted...
BLAKUboy posted...BlueBoy675 posted...Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Every boss becomes a joke Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Get behind him and just clobber him. He doesn't really do much to fight back. He just looks big and scary --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 10:07:50 AM #21: |
Fire breath sounds... vaguely familiar, but I cannot remember anything about fireballs.
He wasn't a very memorable boss, outside of --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fire_bolt 02/24/18 10:09:51 AM #22: |
Seriously, Tinkerbell was so OP she was one of the few things they nerfed in the Final Mix version, and she was STILL OP then. You don't even need Aero spells, just equip as much Stronger boosting accessories as you can and let Tink keep you alive
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 10:11:29 AM #23: |
They nerfed Tink? I mean, I pretty much never used her because summons were stupid in general, but this is the first I'm hearing of a nerf.
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fire_bolt 02/24/18 10:14:12 AM #24: |
Yeah, IIRC they made it so using her sucked up Donald and Goofy like every other summon, reduced the frequency of her heal, and her revive brings you back with less HP total now.
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BlueBoy675 02/24/18 10:16:27 AM #25: |
Even post nerf Tink is amazing.
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BLAKUboy 02/24/18 10:21:01 AM #26: |
fire_bolt posted...
Yeah, IIRC they made it so using her sucked up Donald and Goofy like every other summon Pretty sure I used the strategy I posted earlier for Dragon Maleficent in both my FM and ReMIX playthroughs, so I don't think this part is true. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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REMercsChamp 02/24/18 10:22:24 AM #27: |
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cnekans 02/24/18 10:23:33 AM #28: |
REMercsChamp posted...
14 years? wut I played it in 2004. Couldnt beat Dragon Maleficent so I stopped playing. I picked up 1.5+2.5 and just finally beat her --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Behaviorism 02/24/18 5:26:48 PM #29: |
BLAKUboy posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Every boss becomes a joke why was he even put in that game? No lines, no plot --- Find peace in the embrace of the goddess ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 02/24/18 5:34:56 PM #30: |
Aeroga causes damage though, doesn't it?
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BlueBoy675 02/24/18 7:06:30 PM #31: |
Behaviorism posted...
BLAKUboy posted...BlueBoy675 posted...Cast Aeroga. Summon Tinkerbell. Every boss becomes a joke Because he looks cool and the music is great. pegusus123456 posted... Aeroga causes damage though, doesn't it? Yep --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 02/25/18 12:11:28 AM #32: |
Behaviorism posted...
why was he even put in that game? No lines, no plot I'd say Night On Bald Mountain was the reason but that wasn't added until the NA release. But he is decently popular because of that music, so I guess it would still count. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/25/18 9:39:07 AM #33: |
Fuck you chernabog. Fucking finally
Also from what Ive heard he was intended to be the final boss. But then that plan was scrapped and they just left him in --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 02/25/18 9:44:11 AM #34: |
The final boss itself isn't that bad, especially compared to 2, but if Chernabog gave you that much trouble then idk. What level are you? What difficulty are you playing on?
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fire_bolt 02/25/18 10:04:00 AM #35: |
Actually, I'd love to hear your full layout TC. We could give much more specific advice then. Start with this:
Game version (PS2 or a later re-reading) Level Form (Which weapon did you pick at the beginning of the game between sword, shield, and staff? Which did you give up?) Keyblade equipped Accessories Shortcut spells It'd help to list Donald and Goofy's gear too --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/25/18 10:06:10 AM #36: |
Standard and Im level 56. I just really fucking suck at the large bosses. The human sized ones I can take down no problem
But I picked the sword and gave up the shield I have divine rose equipped I have Thundaga, Aeroaga, and Curaga shortcutted --- Nighttime261 OG ***Is ncsnake*** "the great thing about civil wars is that the home team always wins"-lynxor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 02/25/18 10:07:31 AM #37: |
He's playing Final Mix since he said it's 1.5, but I agree. I'd love to hear your setup. I just can't see Chernabog being that difficult, but that may just be confirmation bias since I've beaten this game at least 20 times
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BlueBoy675 02/25/18 10:09:57 AM #38: |
cnekans posted...
Standard and Im level 56. I just really fucking suck at the large bosses. The human sized ones I can take down no problem Giving up the shield is probably the worst thing you can do. Your base defense is hindered due to that. I tend to pick the shield and drop the sword. Picking the shield gives you an extra armor slot and higher base defense. Dropping the sword lowers your base attack, but you do so much damage in this game regardless it doesn't really matter. You can also give up the staff, since the only magic really worth using is Aeroga/Curaga. --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/25/18 10:11:53 AM #39: |
Well that probably explains my squishiness.
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fire_bolt 02/25/18 10:21:41 AM #40: |
Accessories really make or break the game tbh but the rest of that looks OK. Giving up Shield will always make you a bit squishier.
Divine Rose is a fine weapon but you might want to drop it for one of the higher Str, longer reach weapons that reduce your MP if you're not casting much. Believe it or not, a gain of even a couple points of Str makes a huge difference in your damage output. This late in the game you wanna start looking for some Omega Arts accessories for Sora if you're going full Melee. Big stat boosts. You'll get one for free soon for beating a boss, I think there's another in a chest just past Chernabog if you explore the weird invisible maze room, but the rest you'd need to craft in the Synthesis shop. Also, if you've not got it equipped Ars Arcanum is pretty much god tier for an ability. Pulled off correctly it's 13 keyblade strikes and you get invincibility frames for the whole attack. Strike Raid also gives you a long range Str based attack and is pretty much required to beat a certain hidden boss in the Colloseum. Final point: There are a number of hidden bosses you can fight now, and you can access everything the Colloseum has to throw at you. If you try you can probably get past the final boss with your current setup but there's a lot more content if you want more to do. I'd recommend crafting the Ultima Weapon keyblade if you intend to take on optional stuff tho. If you want tips for getting the materials for that let me know --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fire_bolt 02/25/18 10:23:06 AM #41: |
Oh rip, he's on 1.5 lol. Missed that
A lot of my advice still applies but some of the specifics might be different. I'm not as familiar with that version as I am the PS2 version --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 02/25/18 10:26:19 AM #42: |
I would recommend Lionheart. It's the keyblade you get from Squall in one of the tournaments. I believe it's the Hades Cup
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fire_bolt 02/25/18 10:27:32 AM #43: |
Also, at least for the original version, giving up Sword and picking Staff was objectively the best way to go if you intended to level past like 60. It flat out gave you one extra MP that you couldn't get with any other form, and in the original spell damage was determined by your max MP. Spellcasting was COMPLETELY broken in the original if you equipped nothing but MP boosting gear.
In 1.5 they made the magic system more like KH 2's magic system which removed all this, unfortunately xD --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cnekans 02/25/18 10:30:09 AM #44: |
Shit I ran into the Ansem fight immediately. So I do alright. Then I fight him alone. I can whittle him down to his final health bar then he hits me with SUBMIT and latches his familiar onto me. Then proceeds to spam that
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fire_bolt 02/25/18 11:01:22 AM #45: |
Jesus, just looked it up and they buffed the shit out of Divine Rose in 1.5 O_o. It's up to 13 Str from 10 in the original
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cnekans 02/25/18 11:18:24 AM #46: |
Fuck yes. Just beat Ansems dick ship
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BlueBoy675 02/25/18 11:20:56 AM #47: |
fire_bolt posted...
Also, at least for the original version, giving up Sword and picking Staff was objectively the best way to go if you intended to level past like 60. It flat out gave you one extra MP that you couldn't get with any other form, and in the original spell damage was determined by your max MP. Spellcasting was COMPLETELY broken in the original if you equipped nothing but MP boosting gear. Yeah. In 1.5 the shield is definitely the way to go. The staff was great in the original though cnekans posted... Fuck yes. Just beat Ansems dick ship Congrats man. You beat the game. --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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