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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 4:51:37 AM
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I've seen barely any hype over the game at all.
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Back_Stabbath
02/23/18 5:56:46 AM
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itachi15243
02/23/18 6:00:00 AM
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meh
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Turtlebread
02/23/18 6:01:17 AM
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Metal gear survive is what metal gear solid 5 failed to be, a masterpiece.
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Zack_Attackv1
02/23/18 6:05:06 AM
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Link HT
02/23/18 6:11:53 AM
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Ushiromiya
02/23/18 6:15:03 AM
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2SweetforTurtle
02/23/18 6:16:38 AM
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Ushiromiya posted...
No one cared from the jump.

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chill02
02/23/18 6:17:01 AM
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$10 for an extra save slot
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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 6:25:37 AM
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chill02 posted...
$10 for an extra save slot


wut

just, wut
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chill02
02/23/18 6:26:16 AM
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Re-iNcarnated posted...
chill02 posted...
$10 for an extra save slot


wut

just, wut

This is just a mess. After the 4th hour of running long distances and running out of breath every other step just to slowly stab the same zombie for the 1000th time with a pipe, the realization hits that this is not fun. Followed by the realization that this has no business being called a Metal Gear game.

This is ill-conceived on every possible level. A soldier from Mother base gets transported to a nether realm version of earth where he must eat and drink every 10 minutes or he dies. At the behest of Launce Fishburne, he must stab zombies for their sweet nectar which is used as money by robots for some reason. He then must go around nether earth turning on machines which will summon zombies which he must stab with a pipe because those zombies will destroy the machine. And don't forget to eat because you'll die if you don't! That's the entire game.

"Where's the stealth in all this?", you might be asking. There isn't any.
"But killing zombies has got to be fun, right?" Should be. It isn't.
"The story has got to be interesting, right? It's Metal Gear!" There's a zombie dimension Earth that's completel barren except for Laurence Fishburn, zombies and some animals. You want to leave it. That's the entire story.

That's not even getting issues like being charged extra money ($10) for additional save slots (you get ONE with the game), game must have a constant internet connection to even work, the janky melee system, the microtransactions of $1 to $50 for an in-game currency that effectively allows you to pay to cheat, some truly terrible voice acting, wonky teleporting animals and an entire game of halfeverything despite milking reused assets.

Save your money.

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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 6:29:13 AM
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chill02 posted...
Re-iNcarnated posted...
chill02 posted...
$10 for an extra save slot


wut

just, wut

This is just a mess. After the 4th hour of running long distances and running out of breath every other step just to slowly stab the same zombie for the 1000th time with a pipe, the realization hits that this is not fun. Followed by the realization that this has no business being called a Metal Gear game.

This is ill-conceived on every possible level. A soldier from Mother base gets transported to a nether realm version of earth where he must eat and drink every 10 minutes or he dies. At the behest of Launce Fishburne, he must stab zombies for their sweet nectar which is used as money by robots for some reason. He then must go around nether earth turning on machines which will summon zombies which he must stab with a pipe because those zombies will destroy the machine. And don't forget to eat because you'll die if you don't! That's the entire game.

"Where's the stealth in all this?", you might be asking. There isn't any.
"But killing zombies has got to be fun, right?" Should be. It isn't.
"The story has got to be interesting, right? It's Metal Gear!" There's a zombie dimension Earth that's completel barren except for Laurence Fishburn, zombies and some animals. You want to leave it. That's the entire story.

That's not even getting issues like being charged extra money ($10) for additional save slots (you get ONE with the game), game must have a constant internet connection to even work, the janky melee system, the microtransactions of $1 to $50 for an in-game currency that effectively allows you to pay to cheat, some truly terrible voice acting, wonky teleporting animals and an entire game of halfeverything despite milking reused assets.

Save your money.


So it's like that Resident Evil Umbrella collects the dog tags video game, but somehow worse. Quite an achievement, I must say.
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NibeIungsnarf
02/23/18 6:30:47 AM
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Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konali decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.
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itachi15243
02/23/18 7:36:41 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konami decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.


It's almost like Konami doesn't know how to make games without Kojima and his team.

This game is on some next level mobile game on a console shit.

If they need money this bad the should just do remakes of mgs 1-4 in hd with better graphics and the gameplay from V. They already have the story, voice acting, mechanics, maps, and so on.
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The_Ivory_Man
02/23/18 7:52:26 AM
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Well as someone actually with the game I've been enjoying it.

The traditional stock footage over dialogue is around and many other Metal Gear touches.

The characters are currently more interesting than the new ones in TPP.

This game has former Metal Gear and Silent Hill staff as it's development team and it shows.

For reference I've played nearly every Metal Gear game, the only ones I really disliked were V and Portable Ops. I enjoyed Acid and such too.
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Jiek_Fafn
02/23/18 7:53:33 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konali decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.


You get 4 without paying. Why anyone would want more than 4 characters at the same time is beyond me, but plenty of other games restrict this too.

The game is unpolished as shit. Attack that instead of some weird half truth about game saves.
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Chicken
02/23/18 7:54:52 AM
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Kojima is either laughing or crying right now.
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The_Ivory_Man
02/23/18 7:57:25 AM
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Chicken posted...
Kojima is either laughing or crying right now.


It is ironic that the Silent Hill team is now making Metal Gear.

The plan for Kojima's new game was a zombie one anyway (although it was Gray Fox hunting Nanomachine zombies) so it's not too far off.
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SilvosForever
02/23/18 8:10:22 AM
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It is the definition of a cash grab game.

Hell no.

But if you like sinking your money........how about you mail me the money instead and just SAY you played the game.
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l Dudeboy l
02/23/18 8:23:24 AM
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Konami can fuck off.
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Solar_Crimson
02/23/18 8:27:33 AM
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chill02 posted...
$10 for an extra save slot

*reads review snippet*

Holy shit, this is awful.
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pres_madagascar
02/23/18 8:29:58 AM
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Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting
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foreveraIone
02/23/18 8:32:54 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it
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The_Ivory_Man
02/23/18 8:33:12 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting


What are you talking about?

Nanomachines? Post apocalypse?

Because Kojima was worse in MGSV with vocal cord parasites and retconning basically everything.
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pres_madagascar
02/23/18 8:37:33 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse
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Error1355
02/23/18 8:38:45 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse

*wanking off motion*

Fuck you Konami.
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Chicken
02/23/18 8:40:57 AM
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Nanomachines, son.
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myzz007
02/23/18 8:42:40 AM
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i kept tabs on the game. saw the first 1 hour of the game and dozens of gameplay videos

overall not worth it. repetitive wonky gameplay, stiff animation, poor zombie AI.

worst of all no relevant MGS lore - its all filler nonsense.
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foreveraIone
02/23/18 8:46:39 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse

FEPHd0R
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NibeIungsnarf
02/23/18 8:49:04 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konali decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.


You get 4 without paying. Why anyone would want more than 4 characters at the same time is beyond me, but plenty of other games restrict this too.

The game is unpolished as shit. Attack that instead of some weird half truth about game saves.

How does any fo that wank you said have anything to do with selling save slots as DLC.

It's stupid that a lot of games have low limits on save slots. How is this suddenly justification for doing it on purpose to sell additional ones rather than just being one of those games that are nice and gives you a good chunk?
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DarthWendy
02/23/18 8:51:29 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Konami can fuck off.

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NeuralLaxative
02/23/18 8:52:17 AM
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Should have just made another Metal gear rising
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Jiek_Fafn
02/23/18 8:55:39 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konali decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.


You get 4 without paying. Why anyone would want more than 4 characters at the same time is beyond me, but plenty of other games restrict this too.

The game is unpolished as shit. Attack that instead of some weird half truth about game saves.

How does any fo that wank you said have anything to do with selling save slots as DLC.

It's stupid that a lot of games have low limits on save slots. How is this suddenly justification for doing it on purpose to sell additional ones rather than just being one of those games that are nice and gives you a good chunk?


Because you have a weird hate boner for the micro transactions that most people have no interest in buying anyway. You're using half truths about it being save slots instead of character profiles.

@myzz007
Made a very true post about legitimate criticisms in the game. He didnt even need to even play the game to notice them. Theyre THAT apparent. You're on some weird crusade about shit no one will ever buy.
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Jagr_68
02/23/18 8:57:09 AM
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It's literally Konami's Umbrella Corps. That should explain the quality.
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The_Ivory_Man
02/23/18 8:58:39 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse


You should mention that it's because of the wormhole shenanigans and the time travel is closed during the plot.

It's literally as canon as Jamais Vu taking place in an alternate universe they state this here

https://mobile.twitter.com/Konami/status/940974678406918149

This isn't even the first MG game in an alternate universe, the Acid titles were as well.
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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 9:04:33 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse


Holy shit, i never thought Konami could fuck up this franchise this badly, I thought at worse it'd be tickling the MGS plot and not really making any headways, but they went passed fucled up and kept on going.
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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 9:06:53 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse

FEPHd0R


On actual positive note, who is excited for Dredd TV-series?
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Romulox28
02/23/18 11:28:29 AM
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you guys are acting like the MGS games have some Shakesperian plot and weren't created by some dude who had never read a book in his life and was making shit up as he went along
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ShadowElite86
02/23/18 11:44:04 AM
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The_Ivory_Man posted...
It is ironic that the Silent Hill team is now making Metal Gear.

Seriously? The SH team made Survive? It's hard to believe that Konami retained any of the talent that was with them originally.
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Onepunch-Man
02/23/18 11:44:58 AM
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The_Ivory_Man
02/23/18 12:05:10 PM
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ShadowElite86 posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
It is ironic that the Silent Hill team is now making Metal Gear.

Seriously? The SH team made Survive? It's hard to believe that Konami retained any of the talent that was with them originally.


A few of them, like Masahiro Ito.

The vast majority of the Survive staff is long time Metal Gear members.

The director Yota Tsutsumizaki wrote parts of MGS4 and MGS3 (mostly the codec calls)

Producers are Yuji Korekado who was the program adviser for MGS3 and 4 and programmed MGS2 and 3, he actually wrote the soldier AI for checking for food and such in MGS3.

As well as Noriaki Okamura who created the setting of Zone of the Enders and was the original planner, worked with Kojima as far back as Policenauts and worked on Portable Ops, Acid and more.

The lead programmer this time is Kazuhide Hatsuyama, a carry over from being the head of MGS4 (probably why the threat ring of MGS4 returns)

The artists are
Ikuya Nakamura who directed all four botaki games. And for his work on Metal Gear, he worked on every single game and even co-directed Ground Zeroes
And
Mineshi Kimura who was an artist and modeler who worked on every Metal Gear game, finally directing Metal Gear Rising.

I'm going to stop listing, but it's not like the whole team left with Kojima.
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AlecSkorpio
02/23/18 12:08:26 PM
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It's an alright game, worth the 40 dollar price tag.

It's one of the better Metal Gear "spin off" games IMO

But it's still nothing really to write home about.

It's fun for what it is, but it isn't going to convince any Kojima fanboys or Konami haters to change their views.
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ShadowElite86
02/23/18 12:54:49 PM
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The_Ivory_Man posted...
I'm going to stop listing, but it's not like the whole team left with Kojima.

I figured that most of them either left voluntarily or were fired considering that Konami wasn't making video games for a period of time. The fact that all of these people were involved with the game makes the entire situation that much more depressing IMO.
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Banjo2553
02/23/18 1:07:52 PM
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pres_madagascar posted...
foreveraIone posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Wait until you hear the spoiler about the ending and what it means for rhe metal gear world. It's insulting

post it

it's actually in the future after metal gear rising. Not an alternate dimension. Literally everything in metal gear story leads up to zombies and nanomschine apocalypse

That's...huh. I don't know what to feel about that.
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DarthAragorn
02/23/18 1:10:29 PM
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Been too busy playing it to post about it much
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alphagamble
02/23/18 3:00:12 PM
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I'll wait for it to come down in price

might be worth a look
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Re-iNcarnated
02/23/18 4:37:15 PM
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nump
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Romulox28
02/23/18 4:38:27 PM
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im going to buy it and spend 40+ hours of my finite lifespan playing it to make people on CE mad
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:38:50 PM
#49:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jiek_Fafn posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Literally additional save slots as dlc.

Literally.

Actually something Konali decided to do.

Fundamentally a feature of how the game works.

Literally.

Its not fucking acceptable.


You get 4 without paying. Why anyone would want more than 4 characters at the same time is beyond me, but plenty of other games restrict this too.

The game is unpolished as shit. Attack that instead of some weird half truth about game saves.

How does any fo that wank you said have anything to do with selling save slots as DLC.

It's stupid that a lot of games have low limits on save slots. How is this suddenly justification for doing it on purpose to sell additional ones rather than just being one of those games that are nice and gives you a good chunk?


Pokemon has been selling $40 save slots for years (read: other version) and everyone's okay with it.
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AvantgardeAClue
02/23/18 4:39:06 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
im going to buy it and spend 40+ hours of my finite lifespan playing it to make people on CE mad


might join you in that bud
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