Current Events > Gun control is basically irrelevant. Here's why: *Warning: YouTube*

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Sephiroth1288
02/23/18 1:20:44 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ayHfaHCXQ


Good luck banning milling machines.

And this applies to all countries; short of Orwellian internet censorship, it's not possible.
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Bio1590
02/23/18 1:21:54 AM
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Mal: "Here's my one gun topic this year"

Also Mal: "But wait, there's more!"
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FrenchCrunch
02/23/18 1:22:16 AM
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but like people can make drugs at home and we ban those
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snowman9267
02/23/18 1:23:14 AM
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Imagine being a big enough mongoloid to make multiple gamefaqs accounts to argue the same shit.
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Sephiroth1288
02/23/18 1:23:57 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Mal: "Here's my one gun topic this year"

Also Mal: "But wait, there's more!"

The one caveat to my rule was that I can make one in response to a major event. That was the last one, this is the one freebie.
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Sephiroth1288
02/23/18 1:24:25 AM
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snowman9267 posted...
Imagine being a big enough mongoloid to make multiple gamefaqs accounts to argue the same shit.

When Mal gets purged it gets purged for a looong time.
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scar the 1
02/23/18 1:28:22 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Mal: "Here's my one gun topic this year"

Also Mal: "But wait, there's more!"

The one caveat to my rule was that I can make one in response to a major event. That was the last one, this is the one freebie.

So you can make infinite ones anyway, got it
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hockeybub89
02/23/18 1:29:25 AM
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FrenchCrunch
02/23/18 1:31:32 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
CNN is fake news! Here's a YouTube video!

it was a cool video though
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Cosmic_Diabetic
02/23/18 1:32:56 AM
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"No modern military has semi-automatic rifles"
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ASithLord7
02/23/18 1:33:32 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Mal: "Here's my one gun topic this year"

Also Mal: "But wait, there's more!"

The one caveat to my rule was that I can make one in response to a major event. That was the last one, this is the one freebie.

ie "I can use a major event in which children died as an excuse to shitpost"
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Solid Snake07
02/23/18 1:39:48 AM
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Isn't this super illegal? If it's not it will be
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Malcrasternus
02/23/18 1:46:12 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
"I can use a major event in which children died as an excuse to shitpost"


He belched to the alt account, while on his alt account.
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Sephiroth1288
02/23/18 1:47:15 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Isn't this super illegal? If it's not it will be

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Good luck banning milling machines.

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Turtlebread
02/23/18 1:50:55 AM
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No Way To Prevent This, Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
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Solid Snake07
02/23/18 1:53:55 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
Isn't this super illegal? If it's not it will be

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Good luck banning milling machines.


You don't have to ban milling machines, just make some very harsh legal repercussions for homemade firearms.

You can make IEDs with stuff you can buy legally, that doesn't mean it's legal to build bombs
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ASithLord7
02/23/18 2:01:42 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
"I can use a major event in which children died as an excuse to shitpost"


He belched to the alt account, while on his alt account.

Im not sure how what account either of us is on is relevant in any way

Boy youre sure obsessed with me lately
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Solid Snake07
02/23/18 2:06:35 AM
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And also, if these fucking losers had to actually learn how to make a gun, buy all the shit they need to actually build it (which is stupid expensive) pretty sure none of these shootings would have ever happened.

Look, I own guns and I'm wary anytime the government starts talking about what they will and will not allow me to own, but your point is pretty dumb
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Malcrasternus
02/23/18 2:32:10 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...

Boy youre sure obsessed with me lately


This is literally the second time in a week I've made any direct reference to you.

You're not as important as you think.
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scar the 1
02/23/18 2:32:41 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
"I can use a major event in which children died as an excuse to shitpost"


He belched to the alt account, while on his alt account.

I don't get it. Both Mal and Rebel are completely open about those being their alt accounts. It's not like they're trying to hide their identities.
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 5:41:43 AM
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bump
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untrustful
02/24/18 5:43:56 AM
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I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 5:45:16 AM
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untrustful posted...
I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.

At the end of the day, you can't stop people from getting their hands on a hunk of metal. That's why most gun control is functionally unenforceable and it will only continue to get more hopeless to accomplish as milling and 3D printing become cheaper.
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I_Stay_Noided
02/24/18 5:50:27 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
untrustful posted...
I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.

At the end of the day, you can't stop people from getting their hands on a hunk of metal. That's why most gun control is functionally unenforceable and it will only continue to get more hopeless to accomplish as milling and 3D printing become cheaper.

pulling funding from planned parenthood is pointless since they will find a way to get an abortion anyways
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:15:59 AM
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I_Stay_Noided posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
untrustful posted...
I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.

At the end of the day, you can't stop people from getting their hands on a hunk of metal. That's why most gun control is functionally unenforceable and it will only continue to get more hopeless to accomplish as milling and 3D printing become cheaper.

pulling funding from planned parenthood is pointless since they will find a way to get an abortion anyways

That's fine. I just want them to stop taking money out of my paycheck.
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:16:46 AM
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what % are you losing to PP?
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:17:50 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
what % are you losing to PP?

Any amount is too much tbqh.
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I_Stay_Noided
02/24/18 6:18:15 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
untrustful posted...
I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.

At the end of the day, you can't stop people from getting their hands on a hunk of metal. That's why most gun control is functionally unenforceable and it will only continue to get more hopeless to accomplish as milling and 3D printing become cheaper.

pulling funding from planned parenthood is pointless since they will find a way to get an abortion anyways

That's fine. I just want them to stop taking money out of my paycheck.

Boo hoo
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:19:38 AM
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I_Stay_Noided posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
untrustful posted...
I just want to make it hard to get a gun. Not impossible, not banned, just hard.

At the end of the day, you can't stop people from getting their hands on a hunk of metal. That's why most gun control is functionally unenforceable and it will only continue to get more hopeless to accomplish as milling and 3D printing become cheaper.

pulling funding from planned parenthood is pointless since they will find a way to get an abortion anyways

That's fine. I just want them to stop taking money out of my paycheck.

Boo hoo

Hey if you want to donate your own money to them that's fine. I don't want to though.

Now stop pushing this failed goalpost move and stay on-topic, k?
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thelovefist
02/24/18 6:23:29 AM
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Daily reminder that Mal has repeatedly stated that NATO was created after 9/11
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:24:49 AM
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thelovefist posted...
Daily reminder that Mal has repeatedly stated that NATO was created after 9/11

Unnecessary reminder that the left will use fake news to attack the credibility of people who they can't argue against.
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JE19426
02/24/18 6:24:55 AM
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What a dumb topic this is. You might as well ask why we should any laws when people can break them.
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:24:57 AM
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I don't think you could quantify your potential PP savings in any way that shows a tangible improvement to your life

so it seems weird that would be the real breaking point for you, considering the number of people who do conversely benefit from it
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thelovefist
02/24/18 6:28:23 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Daily reminder that Mal has repeatedly stated that NATO was created after 9/11

Unnecessary reminder that the left will use fake news to attack the credibility of people who they can't argue against.

You have no credibility though
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:31:12 AM
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JE19426 posted...
What a dumb topic this is. You might as well ask why we should any laws when people can break them.

It's not easy to get away with murder. And the justification for making murder illegal is that you're harming an innocent person in the worst possible way.

It's REALLY easy to get away with building a gun. And the justification for not making that illegal is that having a gun harms no one.

Any more false equivalences you want to trot out?

prettyprincess posted...
I don't think you could quantify your potential PP savings in any way that shows a tangible improvement to your life

so it seems weird that would be the real breaking point for you, considering the number of people who do conversely benefit from it

Hey if you want to donate your own money to them that's fine. I don't want to though.

Now stop pushing this failed goalpost move and stay on-topic, k?

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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:32:01 AM
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that doesn't reflect your reasoning though
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:33:53 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
that doesn't reflect your reasoning though

How much of your money will you let me take from you to donate to the NRA?
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:35:17 AM
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let's assume an even amount
what % would I be losing?
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:36:27 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
let's assume an even amount
what % would I be losing?

That wasn't my question. How much of your paycheck would you be ok with me taking from you to donate to the NRA? Ten dollars? .0005 cents? Give me an amount.
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:41:25 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
That wasn't my question.

and you skipped mine first

so I suppose I will still match it and say any % that they funnel into direct health benefits for the populace
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thelovefist
02/24/18 6:41:54 AM
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Shut the fuck up Mal
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:43:20 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
and you skipped mine first

I thought I was clear. Any amount is unacceptable.

prettyprincess posted...
so I suppose I will still match it and say any % that they funnel into direct health benefits for the populace

50%? The NRA will make a killing this year!

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:47:52 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
I thought I was clear. Any amount is unacceptable.

you were, hence why I asked your reasoning for wanting that amount (uncalculated) in the face of the collective benefits it provides

Sephiroth1288 posted...
50%?

how you calc'd this individual cost out is less clear however
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:49:45 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
you were, hence why I asked your reasoning for wanting that amount (uncalculated) in the face of the collective benefits it provides

The benefits are mostly subjective. Your question is nonsense.

prettyprincess posted...
how you calc'd this individual cost out is less clear however

I gave you a link. ~50% of our tax dollars go to social security, medicare, and medicaid.
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JE19426
02/24/18 6:50:41 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Any more false equivalences you want to trot out?


I haven't posted a single false equivalence.

It's not easy to get away with murder. And the justification for making murder illegal is that you're harming an innocent person in the worst possible way.

It's REALLY easy to get away with building a gun. And the justification for not making that illegal is that having a gun harms no one.


This may come shock to you, but murder isn't the only thing that's illegal.
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Sephiroth1288
02/24/18 6:54:25 AM
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JE19426 posted...
This may come shock to you, but murder isn't the only thing that's illegal.

Right. And almost everything that's illegal are things that directly harm others, like murder.

And the things that are illegal that harm no one except the user themselves are all shit, such as the war on drugs.

That's why comparing gun laws to murder laws is a false equivalence.
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prettyprincess
02/24/18 6:58:09 AM
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I suppose medical examinations are subjective in nature given the governance of individual perception

Sephiroth1288 posted...
I gave you a link. ~50% of our tax dollars go to social security, medicare, and medicaid.

I don't follow the math
are those fully funded by the nra?
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JE19426
02/24/18 7:05:29 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
That's why comparing gun laws to murder laws is a false equivalence.


No it's not. A comparison is not an equivalence and therefore can't be a false equivalence.
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I_Stay_Noided
02/24/18 11:42:15 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
thelovefist posted...
Daily reminder that Mal has repeatedly stated that NATO was created after 9/11

Unnecessary reminder that the left will use fake news to attack the credibility of people who they can't argue against.

He says as he literally posted fake news over the school shooting
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