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Kazi1212
02/19/18 6:42:04 PM
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Isnt that one of the leading causes of death in the US every year? Literally over a thousand innocent children die yearly from drunk driving incidents because assholes and deranged people have easy access to alcohol. And yet theres no conversation about curtailing alcohol use, whats the deal? Even cigarettes receive a worse rap than alcohol, but alcohol use is tied to more deaths via collateral damage. Is it because prohibition was a failure? But what other recourse do we have?
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RoseIsHorriblle
02/19/18 6:43:26 PM
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You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.
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Ruvan22
02/19/18 6:44:44 PM
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That's actually one of the reasons the drinking age was raised to 21.. a huge decrease in drunk driving accidents/fatalities
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DrizztLink
02/19/18 6:45:24 PM
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We tried that once.

It went poorly.

Ruvan22 posted...
That's actually one of the reasons the drinking age was raised to 21.. a huge decrease in drunk driving accidents/fatalities

Less that and more a standard age.

Used to be one state would be lower than a neighbor state, leading to people driving there, drinking, then driving back.
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Kazi1212
02/19/18 6:46:36 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


And youre totally allowed to carry gun unless you use it for nefarious purposes, doesnt mean I dont want to ban guns because the existence of its legality allows the possibility for horrendous acts to take place which puts the public in danger
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Steve Nick
02/19/18 6:46:55 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.
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RoseIsHorriblle
02/19/18 6:48:24 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.
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Kazi1212
02/19/18 6:48:44 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
That's actually one of the reasons the drinking age was raised to 21.. a huge decrease in drunk driving accidents/fatalities


Is that enough if on average a thousand children die due to drunk driving?
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copout
02/19/18 6:49:03 PM
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They need to make the penalty for DUI much higher to get people to stop drinking and driving. Alcohol is never going to be outlawed in the US again.
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Punctus_Pilot
02/19/18 6:50:19 PM
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It much more difficult to get a license than a gun
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Kazi1212
02/19/18 6:51:06 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.


Because the two are 100% different scenarios. Lets be real, its not the same, but its not radically different that any comparison is unreasonable. Truth of the matter is alcohol use is related to unjust deaths much like gun ownership is
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Steve Nick
02/19/18 6:52:04 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.


Both guns and alcohol are killing people, and both guns and alcohol aren't being banned because the populace likes having them. Seems like a fair enough comparison.

Your argument is that using alcohol in a bad way is against the law. But using alcohol is still legal. Same with guns. Using guns in a bad way is against the law. But guns are still legal.
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Tropicalwood
02/19/18 6:53:52 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.

Over 10k people are killed each year by a drunk driver and over a million are killed by cars.
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DrizztLink
02/19/18 6:54:30 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.

Over 10k people are killed each year by a drunk driver

Just the one holy shit
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/19/18 6:58:14 PM
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If drunk people didn't drive, drunk driving wouldn't happen.
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Kazi1212
02/19/18 7:02:21 PM
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Maybe people just love alcohol so much that they dont give a shit about laws curtailing its use. Not all that different from gun lovers who could give two shits about limiting gun ownership, both pathetic
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gatorsPENSbucs
02/19/18 7:02:47 PM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

Ehh, sometimes I suppose.
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Letron_James
02/19/18 7:05:54 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

Ehh, sometimes I suppose.


Lol more like never
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marc55
02/19/18 7:07:54 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.

Over 10k people are killed each year by a drunk driver and over a million are killed by cars.


didnt know there were so many pychos out there running people over with their cars
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Kazi1212
02/19/18 7:17:12 PM
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marc55 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.

Over 10k people are killed each year by a drunk driver and over a million are killed by cars.


didnt know there were so many pychos out there running people over with their cars


Theres less cars than there are guns by a mile and yet drunk driving alone leads to almost as many deaths as gun violence
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TheRealDill2000
02/19/18 7:23:38 PM
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copout posted...
They need to make the penalty for DUI much higher to get people to stop drinking and driving. Alcohol is never going to be outlawed in the US again.

It's already excessively high. Why make matters worse!?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/20/18 12:44:11 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
copout posted...
They need to make the penalty for DUI much higher to get people to stop drinking and driving. Alcohol is never going to be outlawed in the US again.

It's already excessively high. Why make matters worse!?


This guy gets it
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Ruvan22
02/20/18 9:32:59 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
copout posted...
They need to make the penalty for DUI much higher to get people to stop drinking and driving. Alcohol is never going to be outlawed in the US again.

It's already excessively high. Why make matters worse!?


What do you consider excessively high?
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_Near_
02/20/18 9:36:22 AM
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The amount of crime and death that would happen if you ban alcohol far outweights the current DUI fatalities.
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A_Good_Boy
02/20/18 9:38:13 AM
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You ever notice that how when someone drives drunk and kills someone there's no army of advocates that rush in and say that alcohol doesn't kill people or that cars don't kill people? What's up with that anyways?
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Bio1590
02/20/18 9:38:47 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
copout posted...
They need to make the penalty for DUI much higher to get people to stop drinking and driving. Alcohol is never going to be outlawed in the US again.

It's already excessively high. Why make matters worse!?


What do you consider excessively high?

He's just a troll.
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NihilistTurian
02/20/18 9:41:27 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
You ever notice that how when someone drives drunk and kills someone there's no army of advocates that rush in and say that alcohol doesn't kill people or that cars don't kill people? What's up with that anyways?

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ToonLinkWithGun
02/20/18 9:41:58 AM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.

You are not allowed to murder people if you have a gun so I don't get your point. If you get caught you go to prison for life or lose your life.
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Balrog0
02/20/18 9:42:19 AM
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Kazi1212 posted...
And yet theres no conversation about curtailing alcohol use, whats the deal?


there absolutely is, as has been discussed exhaustively we do plenty of things to curb drunk driving in america that we do not do for guns
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thanosibe
02/20/18 9:43:34 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
You ever notice that how when someone drives drunk and kills someone there's no army of advocates that rush in and say that alcohol doesn't kill people or that cars don't kill people? What's up with that anyways?
Because the drunk driver not the alcohol or car killed them? I know it's perplexing to some, but I've never seen whiskey bottles and unmanned cars go out and beat people to death. It's weird.
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A_Good_Boy
02/20/18 9:46:07 AM
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thanosibe posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
You ever notice that how when someone drives drunk and kills someone there's no army of advocates that rush in and say that alcohol doesn't kill people or that cars don't kill people? What's up with that anyways?
Because the drunk driver not the alcohol or car killed them? I know it's perplexing to some, but I've never seen whiskey bottles and unmanned cars go out and beat people to death. It's weird.

Weird how the opposite take on a guns autonomy seems to float around whenever there's a shooting. What's up with that btw? I've never seen "the bottle doesn't kill people, people kill people" but I've constantly seen "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
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Bio1590
02/20/18 9:46:28 AM
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marc55 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Steve Nick posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
You are not allowed to drink if you are driving so I don't get your point. If you get caught drunk you go to jail and lose your license.

I really don't get your point.


You aren't allowed to shoot guns at people so I don't get your point. If you shoot guns at people, you go to jail and lose your guns.

I really don't get your point.

Because guns and alcohol are the same thing. Nice comparison mate.

Over 10k people are killed each year by a drunk driver and over a million are killed by cars.


didnt know there were so many pychos out there running people over with their cars

That one million figure isn't right if he's talking US-only. If you were losing a million people per year that'd be ridiculous.

In any given year there's about 35k vehicle-related fatalities in the US. The over 10k figure for alcohol-related deaths is correct.
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Kazi1212
02/20/18 9:48:05 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
And yet theres no conversation about curtailing alcohol use, whats the deal?


there absolutely is, as has been discussed exhaustively we do plenty of things to curb drunk driving in america that we do not do for guns


I have you tagged as European for some reason
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thanosibe
02/20/18 9:49:49 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
thanosibe posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
You ever notice that how when someone drives drunk and kills someone there's no army of advocates that rush in and say that alcohol doesn't kill people or that cars don't kill people? What's up with that anyways?
Because the drunk driver not the alcohol or car killed them? I know it's perplexing to some, but I've never seen whiskey bottles and unmanned cars go out and beat people to death. It's weird.

Weird how the opposite take on a guns autonomy seems to float around whenever there's a shooting. What's up with that btw? I've never seen "the bottle doesn't kill people, people kill people" but I've constantly seen "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
People do kill people. A gun, unless malfunctioning, doesn't kill people on it's own. Yes, alcohol, cars, guns, knives, bats, scissors, etc can all cause death, but they are just instruments that a human has to choose to use, to cause harm or death to another person. Banning any of these things, is not going to change anything. You have to change people, not things. Though there can be steps to help prevent people in some ways from making these bad decisions and that I am totally behind, be in DUI or guns.
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knutjob
02/20/18 9:57:26 AM
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I lived in the us for a while and one of the most surprising things was the slack attitude to drunk driving. It seemed like everyone did it and no one cared. It just seemed culturally acceptable. Even TV was filled with characters driving to bars and driving home again like it was totally normal. I know the country is set up to drive everywhere but with that toxicity in your culture a problem is inevitable. I haven't lived in America for 5 years now but it doesn't seem like much has changed considering your president was trying to dress an nfl player being killed by a drunk driver as an immigration issue just the other week.
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TheVipaGTS
02/20/18 10:02:31 AM
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its almost like we have strict laws and regulations with regard to drunk driving...
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anth0ny
02/20/18 10:05:45 AM
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i guess we should give more people alcohol so that... everyone can be drunk to be safer
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anth0ny
02/20/18 10:06:34 AM
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BTW

is putting more guns in circulation what the gun-nut monkeys of America really think as a good idea?
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Balrog0
02/20/18 10:10:38 AM
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Kazi1212 posted...
I have you tagged as European for some reason


that's weird

I live in arkansas
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