Current Events > man this wakanda/black panther thing is goin a little far isnt it

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am I being racist for thinking that? like some people are saying that it isnt a big deal, like nerds took harry potter and lord of the rings super seriously so it isn't weird that a significant number of black people are doing it for black panther but

1) everyone agreed those nerds were weird when they did it for those other things
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2) I don't remember seeing all these think pieces for those things, definitely not srs ones that people are taking so srs

like I really enjoyed lord of the rings but I wouldnt watch it 3 times and then write a think piece about how maybe the balrog has a point because we should actually view it as an environmental statement in that he is protecting the earth against the machinations of dwarfkind

idk man
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There is a history of movies being seen multiple times dude.

Titanic and Avatar for example. And those were medicore films.
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#wakandaforever
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Pfft the Balrog doesn't fuck around to protect the environment. The Balrog is a fallen Ainur and servent of Morgoth
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

There is a history of movies being seen multiple times dude.

Titanic and Avatar for example. And those were medicore films.

people today make fun of people who did that, though
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its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity
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Balrog0 posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

There is a history of movies being seen multiple times dude.

Titanic and Avatar for example. And those were medicore films.

people today make fun of people who did that, though

Except for the millions who did it. Lots of people still see movies multiple times in theatre, especially if they are visually stunning
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

no I am aware of that, I am saying that doesn't make it less odd

maybe this isnt the right site for this but in general people who cosplay are viewed as weird in the mainstream, but this is an exception because it is a cultural touchstone moment

okay? I feel like that is taking it a bit far.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Except for the millions who did it.

nah I am pretty sure there are plenty of peolpe who enjoyed those movies and now look back on them as funny for being so popular

M_Live posted...

Wtf are you talking about, like are you uncomfortable that black people like something?

what? why would you think I'm uncomfortable because I think something is weird? I think most of you all are weird and you dont make me uncomfortable
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How is it going too far? It was a solid movie. A top 10 comic book movie. The first movie with basically an all black cast.

Its a big deal.

How the fuck can people not see this?
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Balrog0 posted...

but this is an exception because it is a cultural touchstone moment

okay? I feel like that is taking it a bit far.

probably because you don't relate yourself?

idk

im still waiting to be able to cosplay as something American and Asian that isn't a martial artist or high tech geek etc
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

probably because you don't relate yourself?

correct, like most people I do not dress up as fictional characters

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

idk

im still waiting to be able to cosplay as something American and Asian that isn't a martial artist or high tech geek etc

yeah I think thats still gonna be a while
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Wah black people like a movie i'm mad.
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Fony posted...

Wah black people like a movie i'm mad.

what about my post feels angry to you?
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Balrog0 posted...

correct, like most people I do not dress up as fictional characters

i meant
you don't relate to it being a cultural moment
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I think there's quite a bit too much news stories and think pieces for sure. But part of me also isn't sure if I'm just not remembering correctly how it was like when other big hyped movies came out. Also, it's 2018, stories I think just get spread much more
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What do you mean by "wakanda/black panther thing"? I get why it's been very popular. But I don't understand why people are calling it a great film. I think it's actually incredibly mediocre. Like on Rotten Tomatoes, it has a score of 97%, which I don't get at all. But then again, I think the vast majority of Marvel movies are incredibly mediocre.

This video sums up my thoughts on it pretty nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urBtAEObqoQ
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There are people going around cosplsying as characters from shitty animes

I welcome this

emblem boy posted...

I think there's quite a bit too much news stories and think pieces for sure. But part of me also isn't sure if I'm just not remembering correctly how it was like when other big hyped movies came out. Also, it's 2018, stories I think just get spread much more

yeah I wonder how much of it is to do with the prevalence of social media now

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

i meant
you don't relate to it being a cultural moment

sure I do, it isn't the level of enthusiasm that confuses me but the ways that enthusiasm is being expressed
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KingCrabCake posted...

How is it going too far? It was a solid movie. A top 10 comic book movie. The first movie with basically an all black cast.

Its a big deal.

How the fuck can people not see this?

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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

Is this the we forget every other movie that you could do this with like Blade, Django, Spawn and all?
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Balrog0 posted...

like I really enjoyed lord of the rings but I wouldnt watch it 3 times and then write a think piece about how maybe the balrog has a point because we should actually view it as an environmental statement in that he is protecting the earth against the machinations of dwarfkind

You speak as if someone probably hasn't already done this.
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Drpooplol posted...

What do you mean by "wakanda/black panther thing"? I get why it's been very popular. But I don't understand why people are calling it a great film. I think it's actually incredibly mediocre. Like on Rotten Tomatoes, it has a score of 97%, which I don't get at all. But then again, I think the vast majority of Marvel movies are incredibly mediocre.

I mean the stuff where people are starting to greet each other based on how they do it in the movie, trying to draw real life parables from wakandan traditions and society, things like that

I mean it isn't that these things are unheard of or even bad, but typically I see it relegated to things like yeah, shitty anime or fantasy novels and only a smaller subset of people participate in such an obvious way. the broad acceptance of it just because it is the first time we have had an all black cast is what I find odd

so tl;dr racism on my part I suppose
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

Is this the we forget every other movie that you could do this with like Blade, Django, Spawn and all?

Bruh

I don't think many black people are going to go around cosplaying as Django
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

Is this the we forget every other movie that you could do this with like Blade, Django, Spawn and all?

Blade and spawn arent exactly kid friendly and they were around during an age were superheroes werent mainstream

Alucard188 posted...

You speak as if someone probably hasn't already done this.

lol maybe so!
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What do you mean by this wakanda/black panther thing tc...
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Balrog0 posted...

Drpooplol posted...

What do you mean by "wakanda/black panther thing"? I get why it's been very popular. But I don't understand why people are calling it a great film. I think it's actually incredibly mediocre. Like on Rotten Tomatoes, it has a score of 97%, which I don't get at all. But then again, I think the vast majority of Marvel movies are incredibly mediocre.

I mean the stuff where people are starting to greet each other based on how they do it in the movie, trying to draw real life parables from wakandan traditions and society, things like that

I mean it isn't that these things are unheard of or even bad, but typically I see it relegated to things like yeah, shitty anime or fantasy novels and only a smaller subset of people participate in such an obvious way. the broad acceptance of it just because it is the first time we have had an all black cast is what I find odd

so tl;dr racism on my part I suppose

Live long and prosper
May the force be with you

soulunison2 posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

Is this the we forget every other movie that you could do this with like Blade, Django, Spawn and all?

Blade and spawn arent exactly kid friendly and they were around during an age were superheroes werent mainstream

Theres plenty of superheroes who are black that you can be. Just most dont have movies. And dressing up as black panther would show zero skin so a white person could even do it.

But i get why theres hype for it
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Balrog0 posted...

Drpooplol posted...

What do you mean by "wakanda/black panther thing"? I get why it's been very popular. But I don't understand why people are calling it a great film. I think it's actually incredibly mediocre. Like on Rotten Tomatoes, it has a score of 97%, which I don't get at all. But then again, I think the vast majority of Marvel movies are incredibly mediocre.

I mean the stuff where people are starting to greet each other based on how they do it in the movie, trying to draw real life parables from wakandan traditions and society, things like that

I mean it isn't that these things are unheard of or even bad, but typically I see it relegated to things like yeah, shitty anime or fantasy novels and only a smaller subset of people participate in such an obvious way. the broad acceptance of it just because it is the first time we have had an all black cast is what I find odd

so tl;dr racism on my part I suppose

It isn't an all black cast
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soulunison2 posted...

Live long on prosper
May the force be with you

I mean only nerds do that spock thing 100%

the star wars thing is a little bit of a better comparison though yeah. is it really not weird to say that to people as a casual greeting/goodbye?
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Cookie Bag posted...

What do you mean by this wakanda/black panther thing tc...

KingCrabCake posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

How is it going too far? It was a solid movie. A top 10 comic book movie. The first movie with basically an all black cast.

Its a big deal.

How the fuck can people not see this?

@Balrog0
Respond please
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not and if you think so you're just not aware enough to realize that this is, for many people in the modern era, the first movie where they can actually cosplay as the "correct" race/ethnicity

Is this the we forget every other movie that you could do this with like Blade, Django, Spawn and all?

Blade and Spawn already get cosplayed as a lot, but you have to admit that stuff is pretty deep and not very mainstream
Also the Spawn movie was awful

But this is pretty much the biggest film with a majority black cast that's just a part of the public consciousness, without the "it's a film for black people" idea added onto it
and its the first time that many black people see the opportunity to nerd out about it
i know you don't think of lord of the rings and harry potter as necessarily "white" cultural items, and that's because "white" is just "normal" if you're white (idk what race/ethnicity you are tc or person im quoting)

so its just nice to see that normal for once is black, when everything else about society is telling you that being black is not okay or something

or so i'd wager
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Balrog0 posted...

like I really enjoyed lord of the rings but I wouldnt watch it 3 times and then write a think piece about how maybe the balrog has a point because we should actually view it as an environmental statement in that he is protecting the earth against the machinations of dwarfkind

I'm almost certain someone has done this.

The point is, if you don't want to take the time to think deep on a topic, that's fine, but you are kindly asked not to disparage people that do, because you're only doing so just so you feel better about your own inaction.
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Balrog0 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Live long on prosper
May the force be with you

I mean only nerds do that spock thing 100%

the star wars thing is a little bit of a better comparison though yeah. is it really not weird to say that to people as a casual greeting/goodbye?

They can do it so why is it far fetched that other fandoms do it?

Shit man, we do some weird ass handshakes when you roll up to a homie from NYC

Balrog0 posted...

the broad acceptance of it just because it is the first time we have had an all black cast is what I find odd

lmfaoooooooooo

you literally find it odd to see a cast that isn't majority white? and to be so casually accepted?

have you ever lived anywhere other than your birthplace lmfao
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CableZL posted...

It isn't an all black cast

I mean I think only bilbo is white as far as people who are listed as leading roles in the film
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

you literally find it odd to see a cast that isn't majority white?

that's not at all what he said.
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Balrog0 posted...

CableZL posted...

It isn't an all black cast

I mean I think only bilbo is white as far as people who are listed as leading roles in the film

So @Balrog0 will ignore all posts that question his topic and prove his topic wrong?
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Balrog0 posted...

CableZL posted...

It isn't an all black cast

I mean I think only bilbo is white as far as people who are listed as leading roles in the film

Wut

The hype will die down in a while, no need to spoil the party. It's a cultural moment, so let people enjoy it while it lasts. In a couple of months we'll all be talking about the next big thing.
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KingCrabCake posted...

@Balrog0
Respond please

about what? I already did

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

lmfaoooooooooo

you literally find it odd to see a cast that isn't majority white? and to be so casually accepted?

have you ever lived anywhere other than your birthplace lmfao

... I think you need to really be trying hard to stretch there to interpret what I said that way. There's nothing wrong with people doing any of these things, but usually it is a little off putting to when it isn't a movie about minority characters.

CyricZ posted...

I'm almost certain someone has done this.

I mean, I've looked and I've only seen parodies of this kind of thing but like I said, maybe so! and we would make fun of them right?

CyricZ posted...

The point is, if you don't want to take the time to think deep on a topic, that's fine, but you are kindly asked not to disparage people that do, because you're only doing so just so you feel better about your own inaction.

my own inaction on not caring about a super hero movie? okay...
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Balrog0 posted...

There's nothing wrong with people doing any of these things, but usually it is a little off putting to when it isn't a movie about minority characters.

lmfaooo "black people only belong in movies that are specifically about black people"
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soulunison2 posted...

Wut

the way credits work is that there are tiers of actors, like lead, supporting, title, etc

all of the lead actors in black panther are black except bilbo (martin freeman) I believe
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

lmfaooo "black people only belong in movies that are specifically about black people"

... nope, that also isnt what I said
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KingCrabCake posted...

Cookie Bag posted...

What do you mean by this wakanda/black panther thing tc...

KingCrabCake posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

How is it going too far? It was a solid movie. A top 10 comic book movie. The first movie with basically an all black cast.

Its a big deal.

How the fuck can people not see this?

@Balrog0
Respond please

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I never said it wasn't a big deal, is something being a big deal mean that it can't be blown out of proportion or be supported in an unusual way or something?

what is your actual question? what kind of response do you want?
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KingCrabCake posted...

What do you mean by this wakanda/black panther thing tc...

he responded to this when he responded to me.

And the actual film isn't that good.
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no, its how you feel
and it makes it "off-putting" to see a movie that isn't doing that

and somehow people being excited and cool with a movie's hype because it's a momentous cultural occasion is "too much" for you? Even compared to Harry Potter and LOTR fandom?

one movie was enough to be like "woah okay that's enough minority love for now"
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