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Antifar
02/17/18 11:33:21 PM
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DarkChozoGhost
02/17/18 11:35:04 PM
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Of course he does
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littlebro07
02/17/18 11:35:06 PM
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I didn't realize that literally everybody in the FBI was working on the same investigation
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Sephiroth1288
02/17/18 11:36:46 PM
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The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.
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ilovuuu
02/17/18 11:37:24 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

shut up
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Sephiroth1288
02/17/18 11:38:06 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

shut up

No :P
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DarkChozoGhost
02/17/18 11:39:22 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

Sure, but Russian probe should not be less staffed than it is.
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iClockwork
02/17/18 11:40:13 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
I didn't realize that literally everybody in the FBI was working on the same investigation

Gossip in the workplace results in lost productivity.
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Sephiroth1288
02/17/18 11:42:01 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

Sure, but Russian probe should not be less staffed than it is.

Given how the only indictments they've actually made regarding the Russia conspiracy are a handful of dudes who just trolled on social media, the staff in the Russia probe clearly don't have enough to do.
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Axiom
02/17/18 11:44:23 PM
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Everyone in his administration when they read this tweet:

0fY0s03
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SomeonesAlt
02/17/18 11:47:53 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

It's pathetic how much of a partisan hack you are
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EnragedSlith
02/17/18 11:49:22 PM
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I have a regular at the bar I like to talk politics with since he tends to lean fiscally conservative and socially liberal. He was understandably emotional about this and shared this sentiment today. I completely disagreed, and I think its harmful to assume causation or even correlation.

But my question to people who think law enforcement dropped the ball here is where you draw the line between thought crime and actual crime. A lot of people make idle threats and ruining their lives over it infringes on our most sacred constitutional amendment.
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prince_leo
02/17/18 11:51:03 PM
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since his supporters all decided to start saying this, it was only a matter of time before he repeated it considering how well it played with them
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K181
02/17/18 11:52:01 PM
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Piece of evidence proving that either he's a moron or he thinks that his followers are morons #886,559.
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littlebro07
02/17/18 11:52:06 PM
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Axiom posted...
Everyone in his administration when they read this tweet:

0fY0s03


I imagine that's how they react to every tweet of his.
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Sephiroth1288
02/17/18 11:53:03 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

It's pathetic how much of a partisan hack you are

You don't think its kind of bad that they failed to get this kid who could not possibly have given off more red flags?
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Fin_Dawg_004
02/17/18 11:53:14 PM
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when did twitters format change? i dont like it
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ASithLord7
02/17/18 11:53:43 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

It's pathetic how much of a partisan hack you are

You don't think its kind of bad that they failed to get this kid who could not possibly have given off more red flags?

It's very bad. That has nothing to do with the Russia investigation.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/17/18 11:55:27 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

Boy, youll defend anything Trump says no matter how stupid, huh? This is incredibly low, even for you.

As the investigation progresses and Trump becomes increasingly desperate, it should be fun to see where you draw the line (if at all).
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Phantom_Nook
02/17/18 11:56:52 PM
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yeah, the special council that is separate from the FBI should have stopped investigating potential criminal activity because!!!!!!
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Fin_Dawg_004
02/17/18 11:59:22 PM
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another sad display by a sadder man
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:03:02 AM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
As the investigation progresses and Trump becomes increasingly desperate

Yeah dude he's totally going to be brought down by the allegations that Russia paid some trolls to shitpost.

Oh and

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-

also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/

(combine the url)
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Delirious_Beard
02/18/18 12:05:20 AM
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stop responding to mal
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prince_leo
02/18/18 12:06:00 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Oh and

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-

also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/

I mean, we knew that. no person who was voting for bernie suddenly decided to vote for trump, those were russians
that doesn't prove or disprove that trump colluded, it just means they were trying to get trump elected
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Kombucha
02/18/18 12:07:45 AM
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looking at his most recent tweets, i'm starting to think trump took up drinking.
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iClockwork
02/18/18 12:08:22 AM
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Trump can't win the primary

Trump can't win the election

Trump is in bad health and will die before becoming president

Trump will be impeached immediately after taking office

Trump will be in jail once Comey gets a hold of him

Trump will tank the economy

Trump will start a war with North Korea

Trump will be convicted of coordinating with the Russians

Any day now...
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davyheinz
02/18/18 12:08:57 AM
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Mals damage control has been abundant, yet ineffective, today. Many laughs were had.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:09:57 AM
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prince_leo posted...
that doesn't prove or disprove that trump colluded, it just means they were trying to get trump elected

Claims that are made without proof can be dismissed without proof. To date there has been no proof revealed that proves Trump illegally colluded with Russia. So until such a thing happens, let's stop pretending like something is there.

Kombucha posted...
looking at his most recent tweets, i'm starting to think trump took up drinking.

His most recent tweets are largely about the Florida shooting...
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/18/18 12:10:32 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Yeah dude he's totally going to be brought down by the allegations that Russia paid some trolls to shitpost

Keep telling yourself that - maybe if you repeat it enough times youll be able to reassure yourself.

To me, the fact that the investigation hasnt been halted yet suggests that theres more to it than we know - certainly more than just some online shitposting by the Russians. Trump acting guilty as fuck isnt helping to allay any of those suspicions, either.
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jpenny2
02/18/18 12:11:08 AM
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Hey, let's use a school shooting to try to discredit the FBI. Now that's presidential! :/
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:12:43 AM
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To me, the fact that the investigation hasnt been halted yet suggests that theres more to it than we know

Actually it means that they haven't found anything conclusive yet. There's no limit to how long an investigation can be open for, nor is there any reason to continue an investigation that already has conclusive evidence. The longer an investigation takes, the more likely it is that they're coming up with nothing.
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CruelBuffalo
02/18/18 12:12:45 AM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

It's pathetic how much of a partisan hack you are
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:15:14 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The FBI has a finite amount of resources. When they fail to apprehend a kid who was threatening teachers with violence and had the police called on him 39 separate times, that's probably an indication that they have misappropriated their personnel.

It's pathetic how much of a partisan hack you are

Sephiroth1288 posted...
You don't think its kind of bad that they failed to get this kid who could not possibly have given off more red flags?

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0AbsoluteZero0
02/18/18 12:16:30 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
To me, the fact that the investigation hasnt been halted yet suggests that theres more to it than we know

Actually it means that they haven't found anything conclusive yet. There's no limit to how long an investigation can be open for, nor is there any reason to continue an investigation that already has conclusive evidence. The longer an investigation takes, the more likely it is that they're coming up with nothing.

If you say so. I dont necessarily believe they have anything damning on Trump yet - but at the same time, if they hadnt developed any substantial leads after a full year, I believe they would have already closed the investigation by now.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:30:03 AM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
To me, the fact that the investigation hasnt been halted yet suggests that theres more to it than we know

Actually it means that they haven't found anything conclusive yet. There's no limit to how long an investigation can be open for, nor is there any reason to continue an investigation that already has conclusive evidence. The longer an investigation takes, the more likely it is that they're coming up with nothing.

If you say so. I dont necessarily believe they have anything damning on Trump yet - but at the same time, if they hadnt developed any substantial leads after a full year, I believe they would have already closed the investigation by now.

Or the investigation is full of people hostile to Trump and just want to continue the investigation to hurt his chances in 2020.

They already had to let go two of their agents for that reason, and only because their personal texts were made public. Who knows how many more of them are the same way?
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iPhone_7
02/18/18 12:37:17 AM
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Inspiring & comforting words for those students to hear.

I wonder if Nixon also used tragedies to distract from the WaterGate scandal. Like maybe instead of law enforcement investigating his administration they should have prevented Patty Hearsts kidnapping.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/18/18 12:43:10 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
To me, the fact that the investigation hasnt been halted yet suggests that theres more to it than we know

Actually it means that they haven't found anything conclusive yet. There's no limit to how long an investigation can be open for, nor is there any reason to continue an investigation that already has conclusive evidence. The longer an investigation takes, the more likely it is that they're coming up with nothing.

If you say so. I dont necessarily believe they have anything damning on Trump yet - but at the same time, if they hadnt developed any substantial leads after a full year, I believe they would have already closed the investigation by now.

Or the investigation is full of people hostile to Trump and just want to continue the investigation to hurt his chances in 2020.

They already had to let go two of their agents for that reason, and only because their personal texts were made public. Who knows how many more of them are the same way?

So were getting into crackpot conspiracy theories now? And letting those agents go is exactly what the FBI should have done. A legitimate concern would have been if they let them remain on the team.

You have to respect the job theyre doing, imo. Any American with half a brain dislikes Trump, so it must have been difficult for them to assemble a large investigation team while remaining as unbiased as possible.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:46:12 AM
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So were getting into crackpot conspiracy theories now?

Amount of agents in the Trump investigation found to be hostile to Trump: 2
Amount of Trump campaign staff found to be illegally colluding with Russia: 0

Who's the one engaging in a crackpot theory here?

And they didn't merely dislike the president. They said they wanted to form a "secret society" for the purpose of ousting him, after admitting how they didn't think there was going to be anything found in the investigation. That goes beyond dislike and right into full-on derangement.
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TheVipaGTS
02/18/18 12:46:56 AM
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what a piece of shit.
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SomeonesAlt
02/18/18 12:47:37 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
So were getting into crackpot conspiracy theories now?

Amount of agents in the Trump investigation found to be hostile to Trump: 2
Amount of Trump campaign staff found to be illegally colluding with Russia: 0

Who's the one engaging in a crackpot theory here?

Those agents also talked shit about Clinton and many other things. But your partisan shill confirmation biased tunnel vision lets you ignore that
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 12:48:54 AM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
Those agents also talked s*** about Clinton and many other things. But your partisan shill confirmation biased tunnel vision lets you ignore that

Are they involved in an investigation about Clinton?

Sephiroth1288 posted...
And they didn't merely dislike the president. They said they wanted to form a "secret society" for the purpose of ousting him, after admitting how they didn't think there was going to be anything found in the investigation. That goes beyond dislike and right into full-on derangement.

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SomeonesAlt
02/18/18 12:51:59 AM
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The "secret society" crap was already shown to be a nothingburger
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/18/18 12:54:49 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
So were getting into crackpot conspiracy theories now?

Amount of agents in the Trump investigation found to be hostile to Trump: 2
Amount of Trump campaign staff found to be illegally colluding with Russia: 0

Who's the one engaging in a crackpot theory here?

And they didn't merely dislike the president. They said they wanted to form a "secret society" for the purpose of ousting him, after admitting how they didn't think there was going to be anything found in the investigation. That goes beyond dislike and right into full-on derangement.

No shit, and thats why they were axed. The indictments of Manafort and others are clearly building towards possible indictments of people further up the chain.

Your ridiculous assertion that the entire investigation is compromised thanks to a couple of questionable ex-agents is tinfoil-hat worthy. Not surprising, considering how dearly the far right cherishes such outlandish theories with no basis in reality.
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hockeybub89
02/18/18 12:57:47 AM
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Can't believe Trump would make a tragedy all about him. This is so out of character for this man.
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Phantom_Nook
02/18/18 12:58:26 AM
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lol haven't seen that debunked secret society crap in a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0fVZjyF1HM

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SomeonesAlt
02/18/18 12:59:29 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
lol haven't seen that debunked secret society crap in a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0fVZjyF1HM

Mal is in full damage control mode and pulling out all the stops to defend his orange messiah
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Waluigi7
02/18/18 1:06:56 AM
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Watching Mal Fet defend Trump is one of the only joys in my life.
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SomeonesAlt
02/18/18 1:17:09 AM
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Waluigi7 posted...
Watching Mal Fet defend Trump is one of the only joys in my life.

It's like Sisyphus and the boulder, except every time it rolls back down, Mal yells at it that it's not really rolling and it's just a liberal conspiracy. But he goes after it and starts pushing it back up anyways.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 1:22:14 AM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
The "secret society" crap was already shown to be a nothingburger

iFpz0ln

"nothingburger"

Even if they weren't serious about a legitimate secret society, these are the people who were supposed to be involved in the Trump investigation.

So yeah, 2 people in the FBI shown to be deranged weirdos who hate Trump

0 people in Trump's campaign staff shown to have illegally conspired with Russia to win the election.

Which is the crazier conspiracy?
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