Poll of the Day > Why was Derek arrested in American History X?

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Scloud
02/15/18 4:57:37 PM
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I thought USA had a thing called 2nd amendment. Like deserved killed, that guy breaks into your property you can have like a gun to defend it. Isnt that like justified. I mean don't tell me because he stomped the guy that is what he got in jail for? Because that is idiotic..
I mean brutal sure. But come on.

For context, there is an earlier scene where he shoots the guy with the gun. And a guy who stole his car. The last part he carb stumped an unarmed guy i think. But like is that really what got him in jail because that is so nonsensical. I mean i can understand not being pro gun culture in USA but this doesn't sound like something you should go to jail for.

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Jen0125
02/15/18 4:58:03 PM
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i didn't realize curb stomping someone was protected under the second amendment
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magemaximus
02/15/18 5:01:02 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
i didn't realize curb stomping someone was protected under the second amendment

lol this. he didn't get more time because his brother said he wasn't the one who provoked the attack or something. i haven't seen the movie in a long while.
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Scloud
02/15/18 5:08:29 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
i didn't realize curb stomping someone was protected under the second amendment

Yeah but in terms of who started it, one guy brutally attacked = jail? really.
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Jen0125
02/15/18 5:09:20 PM
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what does that have to do with the second amendment
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Scloud
02/15/18 5:09:20 PM
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I mean if you see beginning, he
1: shoot guy with gun
2: shoot guy stealing his car ( i think)
3: then he carb stumps
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OhhhJa
02/15/18 5:10:22 PM
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Scloud posted...
carb stumps

Yeah what's wrong with carb stumping?
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helIy
02/15/18 5:14:16 PM
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Scloud posted...
Jen0125 posted...
i didn't realize curb stomping someone was protected under the second amendment

Yeah but in terms of who started it, one guy brutally attacked = jail? really.


one guy attacked vs three guys brutally killed
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GTurtlte
02/15/18 5:17:55 PM
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??? The cops pulled up the moment he curb stomped the guy. While his little bro was telling him no!!!!! Dont

Derek did anyway. Thats why
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Mead
02/15/18 5:20:25 PM
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Scloud posted...
I mean don't tell me because he stomped the guy that is what he got in jail for? Because that is idiotic..


Common sense actually

If he had shot them when they entered the home that would have been justifiable defense. Marching them outside at gunpoint and violently executing them is hardly the same thing.

duh
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Scloud
02/15/18 5:33:12 PM
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helIy posted...
Scloud posted...
Jen0125 posted...
i didn't realize curb stomping someone was protected under the second amendment

Yeah but in terms of who started it, one guy brutally attacked = jail? really.


one guy attacked vs three guys brutally killed

Emm no... one guy had a gun and almost shot the other guy with the gun who Derek shot at. The other 2 guys i dont think was armed though
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helIy
02/15/18 5:34:38 PM
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that doesn't change a single thing i said now does it
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Mead
02/15/18 5:35:40 PM
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How did TC manage to amass 3 entire karma
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GTurtlte
02/15/18 5:37:07 PM
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Mead posted...
How did TC manage to amass 3 entire karma

True question right there
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Zeus
02/18/18 1:17:04 AM
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"What? We still arrest people for murder? What a county!"
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TheCyborgNinja
02/18/18 1:21:23 AM
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I considered the whole thing even-steven. The colour of their skin was only relevant because he was racist. Some armed hoodlum getting killed in the midst of committing a crime isn't a crime as much as defending yourself and your property. I'd have done the same thing. I could add a fifth notch to that old sword I have ;)
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Zeus
02/18/18 7:03:30 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
I considered the whole thing even-steven. The colour of their skin was only relevant because he was racist. Some armed hoodlum getting killed in the midst of committing a crime isn't a crime as much as defending yourself and your property. I'd have done the same thing. I could add a fifth notch to that old sword I have ;)


The problem was he had *already* subdued the assailant and then killed him in an unusual and brutal manner. Even convenience store clerks who shoot a suspect they have on the ground wind up getting charged with murder because, once you have the guy down, it's no longer self-defense... well, unless you're in a slasher movie then yeah, you kinda gotta finish it. You don't knock the guy down and not grab his knife, instead running for a returning car because you're just going to get your throat slit before they see you.
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