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ledbowman
02/15/18 1:27:41 PM
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CaptainCrunch
02/15/18 1:29:11 PM
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That's... not what he's doing. I know you wanted him to upload something stupid to Twitter, but this is really reaching. He has other tweets you can mock him for, my dude.
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tremain07
02/15/18 1:30:17 PM
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Who cares what Trump says? We know very well he doesn't give a shit about this
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stone
02/15/18 1:30:29 PM
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So many signs the president is mentally disturbed, and nothing gets done about it, what makes him think they'd do anything about a high-school student?
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Monolith1676
02/15/18 1:34:49 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Seems like he is giving sound advice. Blaming would be more like, "the community and students did not do enough to prevent this from happening. They should have reported him more."
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KILBOTz
02/15/18 1:35:19 PM
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when our president is mentally disturbed which authorities do we report that to?
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CaptainCrunch
02/15/18 1:35:38 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Stating that it's important to report instances of questionable behavior isn't the same as bl-

ah, forget it. You guys made up your mind about the OP the moment you read the title. It'd be a waste of my valuable time to argue with people like you.
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CEs_EFG
02/15/18 1:35:42 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Advice is blaming now apparently
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CEs_EFG
02/15/18 1:38:47 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
"not doing enough" about something is implicit in the statement that they knew about the problem. "should have reported him" is implicit in the statement of "must always report". you just redressed his words but made them say the exact same thing.


Must always report is apparently throwing blame now. Jesus fuck this is sad
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BlueScum
02/15/18 1:39:34 PM
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The FBI knew about the kid, so reporting such things to the authorities obviously isn't effective.
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 1:40:20 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Whenever ever I go to the airport or ride a commuter train, I always hear an announcement to effect of "Be on the look out for unattended luggage/items. If you see something notify security personnel immediately." That's not blaming the passengers for the bomb attacks that have occurred.
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SK8T3R215
02/15/18 1:40:30 PM
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yikes @ this topic
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3deep5u
02/15/18 1:41:36 PM
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It's hard because when the FBI receives some random report about someone they don't have much info on, they can't just start being Orwellian and watching their every move. It takes reports of certain types and at a certain volume to actually motivate them to start investigating someone I'd imagine.
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Tmaster148
02/15/18 2:00:59 PM
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Honestly the more damning part of that tweet is that Trump's admin also repealed obama era rules towards not giving people with mental health issues a gun.
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ledbowman
02/15/18 2:48:10 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Seems like he is giving sound advice. Blaming would be more like, "the community and students did not do enough to prevent this from happening. They should have reported him more."

This is literally a rephrasing of the exact same idea.
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ledbowman
02/15/18 2:48:57 PM
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CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing. I know you wanted him to upload something stupid to Twitter, but this is really reaching. He has other tweets you can mock him for, my dude.

It's not reaching at all. "Classmates knew he was a big problem" is crystal clear.
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Turtlemayor333
02/15/18 2:50:16 PM
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I agree with him for once

If your profile picture has you holding a gun and wearing a MAGA hat, you need to be reported
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ledbowman
02/15/18 2:50:19 PM
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And does anyone really believe saying this is beneath Trump? lmao
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gnomefromnome
02/15/18 2:51:14 PM
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CEs_EFG posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

how is that not exactly what he is doing. what else do you think he would be suggesting with "Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities"?


Advice is blaming now apparently

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cerealbox760
02/15/18 2:54:08 PM
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It doesn't matter how many times you report him. He didn't commit a crime until yesterday. Reporting him is useless until he commits a crime.

And somehow he passed a background check to buy a gun.
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 2:58:34 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
I agree with him for once

If your profile picture has you holding a gun and wearing a MAGA hat, you need to be reported


What are you going to report in that case? "Hello! Police! I have the identity of a guy who loves America and the Constitution. Please do something!"
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Paragon21XX
02/15/18 3:28:51 PM
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"See something, say something" is bad policy now?
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HylianFox
02/15/18 3:29:54 PM
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"if you see something, say something" is what led to the Nazis gaining power
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HylianFox
02/15/18 3:30:27 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
"See something, say something" is bad policy now?

nobody likes a tattle-tale
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CEs_EFG
02/15/18 3:32:00 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
I agree with him for once

If your profile picture has you holding a gun and wearing a MAGA hat, you need to be reported


The guy had communist antifa clothing though
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cjsdowg
02/15/18 3:32:33 PM
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CaptainCrunch posted...

Stating that it's important to report instances of questionable behavior isn't the same as bl-

ah, forget it. You guys made up your mind about the OP the moment you read the title. It'd be a waste of my valuable time to argue with people like you


Funny he is not attacking the White Supremacist who trained him.
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 3:34:28 PM
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CaptainCrunch posted...
That's... not what he's doing.

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Omnislasher
02/15/18 3:35:11 PM
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what a moronic, disgusting and tactless thing to say
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hockeybub89
02/15/18 3:37:55 PM
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Report what exactly? Aren't Trump supporters against things like #MeToo because of innocent until proven guilty and also vehemently against the government forcing treatment on you?

"911, I think this guy is disturbed"
"Ok, what is he doing?"
"Well, nothing right now but he's creepy and keeps to himself"
"And?"
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 3:41:04 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Report what exactly?

That they suspect a kid is borderline.
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Omnislasher
02/15/18 3:43:25 PM
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Rad_Chad
02/15/18 3:44:22 PM
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Um. Is he wrong?
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Teddytalks
02/15/18 3:44:50 PM
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CEs_EFG posted...
Turtlemayor333 posted...
I agree with him for once

If your profile picture has you holding a gun and wearing a MAGA hat, you need to be reported


The guy had communist antifa clothing though


Yet was a certified member of a white supremacist group according to the AP
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Omnislasher
02/15/18 3:45:01 PM
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Rad_Chad posted...
Um. Is he wrong?


yes
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 3:45:33 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Who cares what Trump says? We know very well he doesn't give a shit about this

Cares just as much as you do
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Heineken14
02/15/18 3:45:48 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Who cares what Trump says?


People like this.

http://thehill.com/media/370207-man-arrested-after-threatening-to-kill-cnn-employees
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Sayoria
02/15/18 3:46:10 PM
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"Great. I need to take time out of my "draining the governm...." errr, "draining the swamp" to address this fine man from one of the two equally great sides? Meh."
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 3:46:33 PM
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ledbowman posted...
yM421Ta


I see this as him actually blaming FBI and the police.

http://archive.is/9Z5mu

Fucking aye man
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DifferentialEquation
02/15/18 3:46:54 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Report what exactly? Aren't Trump supporters against things like #MeToo because of innocent until proven guilty and also vehemently against the government forcing treatment on you?

"911, I think this guy is disturbed"
"Ok, what is he doing?"
"Well, nothing right now but he's creepy and keeps to himself"
"And?"


I think the idea is that if there is reason believe that someone will commit a mass shooting that a law enforcement agency would investigate the matter further, and not that a law enforcement agency would start a social media campaign against them and that only officers or FBI agents would be allowed on stage at the Oscars.
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 3:48:41 PM
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@Tmaster148 posted...
Honestly the more damning part of that tweet is that Trump's admin also repealed obama era rules towards not giving people with mental health issues a gun.

http://archive.is/9Z5mu
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Axiom
02/15/18 3:48:53 PM
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CEs_EFG posted...
Turtlemayor333 posted...
I agree with him for once

If your profile picture has you holding a gun and wearing a MAGA hat, you need to be reported


The guy had communist antifa clothing though

You should stop relying on 4chan for info. He was affiliated with a white supremacist group called Republic of Florida and used multiple racial slurs against muslims
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 3:50:20 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Report what exactly? Aren't Trump supporters against things like #MeToo because of innocent until proven guilty and also vehemently against the government forcing treatment on you?


No theyre against baseless claims with no substance years after the "atttack" occurred and have the person's name and reputation tarnished.

I dont even know how you could compare the two...but yeah i actually can ive seen you post dozens of times
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CarlGrimes
02/15/18 3:54:32 PM
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BlueScum posted...
The FBI knew about the kid, so reporting such things to the authorities obviously isn't effective.

Yeah, it seems like a lot of the last few mass shootings the shooter was on some watchlist but the FBI droppes the ball and does nothing.
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Teddytalks
02/15/18 3:59:39 PM
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Rad_Chad posted...
Um. Is he wrong?


Of course. The only people who can agree with him has no life experience and understanding of this society.

You can't arrest somebody based on a suspicion of violence. Law enforcement is reactive, not proactive. Anybody who dealt with domestic abuse will tell you this.

Being weird isn't a crime. If you report an innocent person based on suspicion, you risk destroying their social life and actually putting towards that path as you leave then isolated from their peers.

You really need to think these things through; nobody want to be the person that destroy an innocent life.
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Tmaster148
02/15/18 5:13:55 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
@Tmaster148 posted...
Honestly the more damning part of that tweet is that Trump's admin also repealed obama era rules towards not giving people with mental health issues a gun.

http://archive.is/9Z5mu


That has no relation to what my post is about.
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Darmik
02/15/18 5:19:14 PM
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What do people want authorities to do? Search his internet history? Bug him?
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ledbowman
02/15/18 5:25:55 PM
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Pre-crime. Minority Report came true.
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itachi15243
02/15/18 5:33:26 PM
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He was already reported and on an FBI watchlist.

Obviously reporting him again would have done jack shit
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