Poll of the Day > You should allow gay marriage in church... just not be ok with it personally

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Just to sorta get it out of the system. Best way is to not give it attention and just frown that they don't follow traditional norms. Thats the way people think about stuff, just make it ok and see how long they go with it.

My suggestion atleast, if they live it out. Fine. Just let it go. Either case church is within your hearts or whatever you believe in. That's sorta the thing in either case. Just because you letting it be allowed constitutional wise that doesn't mean you are ok with it personally as approval wise.

I mean people basically rebel when not being allowed to watch porn. Let them watch, see how long it takes before they figure they need to take responsibility and like... not be huge porn junkie. Thats life. Let it just get it out there, and you learn from that. Thats a part of being human if you ask me, you do it and you learn from it... well atleast i hope they do. Depending if you had any good parents who teaches you to be traditional and keep up the good honest work of good intent. But yeah.

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.
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No, no , no! That is wrong on all levels. Religious people have a right to their own customs. That is like wearing a kkk hood to a black lives matter protest or a swastika to a synagogue. You are asking for trouble. Gays can get married in other places they are welcome at. Jesus makes it clear he did not die for Adam and Steve but adam and eve

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

Sure. But there are some churches that don't actually mind it. Some of the churches are gay friendly...
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LinkPizza posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

Sure. But there are some churches that don't actually mind it. Some of the churches are gay friendly...

And they can do the marriages, but anti-gay sects legally have to marry gay people.
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Jesus didn't mention homosexuality.

Jesus only stated that he supported the old testament and didn't want to revise it at all.

So in summary, god hates gays, nonbelievers should be put to death, we should kill our disobedient children, we must sacrifice our firstborn sons (or a goat in their place), the sky is actually a big dome keeping out the water, and the Earth is flat.

At least if you take the Bible literally ...Or seriously.
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LinkPizza posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

Sure. But there are some churches that don't actually mind it. Some of the churches are gay friendly...

The better question would be to stick to the bible that " i am sorry but its really not ok, just as porn junkies are bad" But that they just marry to get it out of the system and hope in the future they will go to the traditional norms to sorta change to that dogma.

Well thats the best way i can think that would work for people who absolutely want the church to marry it, but only if it feels more forced to it.

Yellow posted...

Jesus didn't mention homosexuality.

Jesus only stated that he supported the old testament and didn't want to revise it at all.

So in summary, god hates gays, nonbelievers should be put to death, we should kill our disobedient children, we must sacrifice our firstborn sons (or a goat in their place), the sky is actually a big dome keeping out the water, and the Earth is flat.

At least if you take the Bible literally ...Or seriously.

Also, Jesus killed a dragon... I know this has nothing really to do with anything. But it's true...
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LinkPizza posted...

Yellow posted...

Jesus didn't mention homosexuality.

Jesus only stated that he supported the old testament and didn't want to revise it at all.

So in summary, god hates gays, nonbelievers should be put to death, we should kill our disobedient children, we must sacrifice our firstborn sons (or a goat in their place), the sky is actually a big dome keeping out the water, and the Earth is flat.

At least if you take the Bible literally ...Or seriously.

Also, Jesus killed a dragon... I know this has nothing really to do with anything. But it's true...

That's bullshit, I'm doing fine. He just threw a rock at my head and high tailed when I started giving chase. He started running over water and I didn't care enough to fly after him.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

And they can do the marriages, but anti-gay sects legally have to marry gay people.

That's not true. Where did you hear that?
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Scloud posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

Sure. But there are some churches that don't actually mind it. Some of the churches are gay friendly...

The better question would be to stick to the bible that " i am sorry but its really not ok, just as porn junkies are bad" But that they just marry to get it out of the system and hope in the future they will go to the traditional norms to sorta change to that dogma.

Well thats the best way i can think that would work for people who absolutely want the church to marry it, but only if it feels more forced to it.

That's assuming that they are just doing it to "get it out of the system". But there are some yjay actually support gay rights...
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LinkPizza posted...

Scloud posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

Sure. But there are some churches that don't actually mind it. Some of the churches are gay friendly...

The better question would be to stick to the bible that " i am sorry but its really not ok, just as porn junkies are bad" But that they just marry to get it out of the system and hope in the future they will go to the traditional norms to sorta change to that dogma.

Well thats the best way i can think that would work for people who absolutely want the church to marry it, but only if it feels more forced to it.

That's assuming that they are just doing it to "get it out of the system". But there are some yjay actually support gay rights...

No i mean in terms of church just let it go... and hope that maybe they will change their mind. Just due to fact that people struggle with different issues in life, if that is what they really want then just let it pass and hope for the best.

Though it still is unbiblical to be pro homosexual lifestyle. Traditional norms of marriage is however man and female. But yeah, i wouldn't mind if its to get it out of the system in terms of the marriage in general if it absolutely is needed etc.

You are an alt, right? Normally, I wouldn't ask, but... Somebody has to know who this is, right?
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LinkPizza posted...

You are an alt, right? Normally, I wouldn't ask, but... Somebody has to know who this is, right?

I am neutral til i hear what the issues are in terms of elections etc. I don't really have a steady side in politics.

Yellow posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

And they can do the marriages, but anti-gay sects legally have to marry gay people.

That's not true. Where did you hear that?

Duckbear article a while back, a priest got in trouble.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.
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EvilMegas posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.

Its not cherry picking just stating what is ok or not. Like if you are into porn and stuff that is just as bad, its just that gays are the only ones wanting to change how the church views their teachings, like i guess people remarrying is also a problem for not sticking. But its not like they try to say we should interpret porn as normal christian doctrine.

Thats the problem here. Want to get married no prob, just should just not accept the lifestyle on as a whole. So that would be the problem solved in my view. Both get what they want out of it. And if they ever change their view they can always go back to the church or read the bible to avoid doing it again. Just sounds like the best way to do it about in terms of marriage. Lifestyle wise you can condemn it in many ways, gays, porn junkies or whatever.

You're obsessed with porn.
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EvilMegas posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.

That's irrelevant as sects that don't follow the bible religiously are still regarded as legitimate religion. If you want to persecute people on their religious beliefs, don't keep it as defensible by law.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

You're obsessed with porn.

I have my moments.

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Hmmm.
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wwinterj25 posted...

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User Since: Feb 2018

Hmmm.

Yup.
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Scloud posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.

Its not cherry picking just stating what is ok or not. Like if you are into porn and stuff that is just as bad, its just that gays are the only ones wanting to change how the church views their teachings, like i guess people remarrying is also a problem for not sticking. But its not like they try to say we should interpret porn as normal christian doctrine.

Thats the problem here. Want to get married no prob, just should just not accept the lifestyle on as a whole. So that would be the problem solved in my view. Both get what they want out of it. And if they ever change their view they can always go back to the church or read the bible to avoid doing it again. Just sounds like the best way to do it about in terms of marriage. Lifestyle wise you can condemn it in many ways, gays, porn junkies or whatever.

Its cherry picking because they are still breaking all of their bibles rules, Love thy neighbor, unless they're gay or doesn't believe the same as me I guess. Churches take in criminals, murders, and rapists but those gays are too much for us.

And no one wants anyone to change the Christian view, they literally just want to not be condemned for living and be treated like people, how horrible.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.

That's irrelevant as sects that don't follow the bible religiously are still regarded as legitimate religion. If you want to persecute people on their religious beliefs, don't keep it as defensible by law.

"I have no actual defense for that so let me deflect on something thats not relevant"

Religion is a giant shield people use to hide their prejudice to make it seem justified.
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Thats literally the gay marriage argument.
Not sure if srs.
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EvilMegas posted...

Scloud posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It should be allowed, but the church should be allowed to turn them down on religious grounds too.

If they want to use religous reason, then they should follow the bible to the "T" instead of cherrypicking what suits their needs.

Its not cherry picking just stating what is ok or not. Like if you are into porn and stuff that is just as bad, its just that gays are the only ones wanting to change how the church views their teachings, like i guess people remarrying is also a problem for not sticking. But its not like they try to say we should interpret porn as normal christian doctrine.

Thats the problem here. Want to get married no prob, just should just not accept the lifestyle on as a whole. So that would be the problem solved in my view. Both get what they want out of it. And if they ever change their view they can always go back to the church or read the bible to avoid doing it again. Just sounds like the best way to do it about in terms of marriage. Lifestyle wise you can condemn it in many ways, gays, porn junkies or whatever.

Its cherry picking because they are still breaking all of their bibles rules, Love thy neighbor, unless they're gay or doesn't believe the same as me I guess. Churches take in criminals, murders, and rapists but those gays are too much for us.

And no one wants anyone to change the Christian view, they literally just want to not be condemned for living and be treated like people, how horrible.

No, thats called being imperfect, its not denying the existence of it. You can still be gay and hate who you are. If you don't believe me, Milo Yiannopoulos.

wwinterj25 posted...

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User Since: Feb 2018

Hmmm.

This is the reason for post #14...
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