Current Events > What is the best way to end the Mexican Drug War?

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Seems like the violence just won't end. What should be done?

do all the drugs so they have none left
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Clearly we should just nuke Mexico.
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Legalize drugs like pot. Fund corporations to produce and sell those products with strict licensing laws that do not allow cartels to enter the game. Open co-operation with international companies and governments so they have a vested interest.

Honestly, if there is no money to be made, their are no organized cirminals to make it. They do it for the paycheck, not to twist their evil moustaches and guffaw at those silly good guys.

A very expensive wall.
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AssultTank posted...

America needs to legalize cocaine to end the Mexican Drug War...

Seriously, most of the cartel funds come from selling illegally in the USA...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

Atralis posted...

AssultTank posted...

America needs to legalize cocaine to end the Mexican Drug War...

Seriously, most of the cartel funds come from selling illegally in the USA...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

All research actually points out that legalization reduces overdoses.

Ban humanity
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AssultTank posted...

Atralis posted...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

If you legalize it, you can regulate to improve quality/consistency and treat the addictions more easily.

Lots of overdoses are caused by the user getting a drug that is more pure than they're used to, and using the same dosage that they were using before.

The other thing is that addicts won't get help because they know they'll be targeted by the law for doing so. If you pay attention, safe drug injection sites actually help to reduce overdosing and often lead to users being able to get help fighting the addiction.

People like you would defend the British in the opium wars. Well they just wanted to sell a product to willing buyers right? It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high but that is no reason to ban the trade. Right?

Or are you embracing the brave new world future where we are all fucked up out of our minds on happy pills all the time and the weird people are the ones that thing that there is something wrong with it?

I suspect that most addicts wouldn't be addicts, if they experienced the kind of quality of life that didn't require drugs.
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Atralis posted...

AssultTank posted...

Atralis posted...

Why should we kill our own people from overdoses to stop being from dying in mexicos drug war? They don't even have the death penalty in Mexico and they pretend like they are fighting a war against their narcotics industry. They are weak.

If you legalize it, you can regulate to improve quality/consistency and treat the addictions more easily.

Lots of overdoses are caused by the user getting a drug that is more pure than they're used to, and using the same dosage that they were using before.

The other thing is that addicts won't get help because they know they'll be targeted by the law for doing so. If you pay attention, safe drug injection sites actually help to reduce overdosing and often lead to users being able to get help fighting the addiction.

People like you would defend the British in the opium wars. Well they just wanted to sell a product to willing buyers right? It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high but that is no reason to ban the trade.

Except that was not their reason. The reason for the war was because opium was the only product that China could not produce itself and therefore they wanted to use it to expand their imperialism in Asia since China was otherwise completely closed off to westerners.

Seriously, though, you aren't actually discussing the topic at hand. You are ignoring valid points in favor of a really, really poor comparison.

Dash_Harber posted...

Legalize drugs like pot. Fund corporations to produce and sell those products with strict licensing laws that do not allow cartels to enter the game. Open co-operation with international companies and governments so they have a vested interest.

Honestly, if there is no money to be made, their are no organized cirminals to make it. They do it for the paycheck, not to twist their evil moustaches and guffaw at those silly good guys.

Pretty sure alot of them enjoy being human scum. People that do that shit relish in the inhuman barbarism
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Legalize drugs like pot. Fund corporations to produce and sell those products with strict licensing laws that do not allow cartels to enter the game. Open co-operation with international companies and governments so they have a vested interest.

Honestly, if there is no money to be made, their are no organized cirminals to make it. They do it for the paycheck, not to twist their evil moustaches and guffaw at those silly good guys.

Pretty sure alot of them enjoy being human scum. People that do that shit relish in the inhuman barbarism

Pretty hard to convince thousands of people to risk their lives if they can only earn a third of minimum wage on a product that they could legally sell for much better prices and completely without risk.

AssultTank posted...

Atralis posted...

People like you would defend the British in the opium wars. Well they just wanted to sell a product to willing buyers right? It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high but that is no reason to ban the trade.

In that situation, the British were the equivalent of the Mexican Cartels, so... No I wouldn't.

Do you personally know any heroin addicts? It turns good people into subhuman criminals that degenerate over time until they are basically zombies just leeching off everyone around them. They think nothing of stealing from strangers or even their own family to get their next high and they reach the point where they are incapable of holding a job because they are too fucked up most of the time to do anything.

Its a slippery slope at this point. Just legalizing MJ will, yeah, have some effect but theres still way more than enough money in all the hard drugs plus scheduled pharma to keep cartels very active.

Plus a big issue at this point is that the narco cartels have been around long enough that they are their own industry, just black market. Even if literally everything under the sun was legalized and allowed to purchase in America, still, the cartels would offer competitive pricing for the poorer communities. Just because something is legal doesnt mean it wouldnt be highly taxed. In fact, if a lot of substances were made legal, the cartels would probably do even better overall - after getting a taste, a lot of people would eventually turn to cheaper stuff on the black market for a similar fix. So yeah, cartels are not just gonna disappear quietly at this point.
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Atralis posted...

It may rot their brains and turn them into wasted husks of humanity that waste their savings and earnings steal from their friends family and community and whore themselves to get their next high

And this is different from a hardcore alcoholic how?
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Annex Mexico
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