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LordRazziel
02/12/18 4:05:46 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
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Hopefully NPR loses its funding. It's an extreme leftist cesspool and shouldn't be federally funded.

Left-leaning, for sure. They make the most earnest attempt to be objective among major media outlets, though.


A few weeks ago, they included a case of a man who committed suicide with a firearm in an empty school parking lot as a 2018 "school shooting". They're not honest at all, they're just better at hiding their agenda. At least with the likes of CNN they're pretty open with where they stand politically. NPR tries to paint themselves as the unbiased and intellectual choice, but they're some of the most manipulative pieces of shit in the media.

Source?
In what way did they say it was a school shooting?


https://www.npr.org/2018/01/24/580433745/a-look-at-all-11-school-shootings-that-took-place-in-the-first-23-days-of-2018

They called it a "school shooting"...

Maybe not the best way to report on it, I don't see how this is any indicator it's a "leftist cesspool".
Unless you want it to be one
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sktgamer_13dude
02/12/18 4:06:01 PM
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Caution999 posted...
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Sesame Street literally had to bought by HBO to save it from dying thanks to the GOP. They want to do more harm to education?


It's really amazing that we've been able to survive the past few years without Big Bird being made available to everyone.

Cutting this is a drop in the bucket. The education provided by programs like this for children is worth more than the money wed be saving. Its not just Sesame Street. Drop the conservatroll act for once and try to have a real discussion.

The more education people get, the less Trump supporters there are. The cult has a vested interest in keeping people uneducated.


And it's definitely not this aura of acting like pompous asses where you guys are so cocky that it's your way or the highway when it comes to everything? You act like history will always be on your side, and this is why nobody wants to have a conversation with you.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/12/18 4:06:13 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
spudger posted...
Caution999 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Sesame Street literally had to bought by HBO to save it from dying thanks to the GOP. They want to do more harm to education?


It's really amazing that we've been able to survive the past few years without Big Bird being made available to everyone.

you obviously dont have kids

I do and don't let them watch that leftist propaganda disguised as a kids show.


calling Sesame Street "leftists propaganda" oh my
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Barenziah Boy Toy
02/12/18 4:07:23 PM
#55:


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Why the hell are we funding PBS in the first place?

It's a damn TV channel.

Because it is in the interest of society to have a television option that isn't beholden to corporate interests.
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A_Good_Boy
02/12/18 4:08:01 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
spudger posted...
Caution999 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Sesame Street literally had to bought by HBO to save it from dying thanks to the GOP. They want to do more harm to education?


It's really amazing that we've been able to survive the past few years without Big Bird being made available to everyone.

you obviously dont have kids

I do and don't let them watch that leftist propaganda disguised as a kids show.


calling Sesame Street "leftists propaganda" oh my

Reading and counting are leftist propaganda.
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LordRazziel
02/12/18 4:08:29 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
spudger posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
spudger posted...
Caution999 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Sesame Street literally had to bought by HBO to save it from dying thanks to the GOP. They want to do more harm to education?


It's really amazing that we've been able to survive the past few years without Big Bird being made available to everyone.

you obviously dont have kids

I do and don't let them watch that leftist propaganda disguised as a kids show.

xD

Execs have openly admitted to it.


oh no teaching kids how to read and count, how horrible

Don't bully or judge people on race.

Leftist propaganda!
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spudger
02/12/18 4:09:36 PM
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Sesame Street has done more for children than any republican policy. But sure, its a 'leftist cesspool'.

jfc the delusion.
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creativerealms
02/12/18 4:12:55 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
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Hopefully NPR loses its funding. It's an extreme leftist cesspool and shouldn't be federally funded.

Which is funny as there are times when NPR is almost indistinguishable from conservative news radio.
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Bishop9800
02/12/18 4:17:29 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Execs have openly admitted to it.


Source
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Caution999
02/12/18 4:18:17 PM
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Doesn't "pot meet kettle" mean "Yeah you're right but so are you?"

wew lad.
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spudger
02/12/18 4:20:31 PM
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Execs have openly admitted to it.


Source

I Googled it. Was a Ben Shapiro hit piece for the Blaze

"facts"
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Bishop9800
02/12/18 4:20:54 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Execs have openly admitted to it.


Source

I Googled it. Was a Ben Shapiro hit piece for the Blaze


So in other words, just bullshit
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Bishop9800
02/12/18 4:22:58 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Execs have openly admitted to it.


Source

I Googled it. Was a Ben Shapiro hit piece for the Blaze


So in other words, just bullshit

Almost certainly


Just like voldothegr8
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 4:28:26 PM
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Would anyone be interested in seeing the quotes Shapiro claims to have gotten about the show, or are we dismissing anything written by Shapiro, even if it's a direct quote and not an interpretation of intent, as objectively false because of who he is?
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DifferentialEquation
02/12/18 4:32:18 PM
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creativerealms posted...
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Hopefully NPR loses its funding. It's an extreme leftist cesspool and shouldn't be federally funded.

Which is funny as there are times when NPR is almost indistinguishable from conservative news radio.


No they aren't. They're much more polite to their right wing guests and they're more subtle with their loaded questions, but they're still extreme leftists in moderates' clothing. They also don't mindlessly bash Trump in a foaming at the mouth manner over petty or insignificant things because it helps their ruse of appearing unbiased.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/12/18 4:33:38 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
creativerealms posted...
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Hopefully NPR loses its funding. It's an extreme leftist cesspool and shouldn't be federally funded.

Which is funny as there are times when NPR is almost indistinguishable from conservative news radio.


No they aren't. They're much more polite to their right wing guests and they're more subtle with their loaded questions, but they're still extreme leftists in moderates' clothing. They also don't mindlessly bash Trump in a foaming at the mouth manner over petty or insignificant things because it helps their ruse of appearing unbiased.


see, guys, because they don't bash Trump non-stop it just PROVES they're biased
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Patchwork
02/12/18 4:34:18 PM
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Everything except military spending will end up getting cut. You can't take less taxes and continue spending the same money.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/12/18 4:34:25 PM
#73:


s0nicfan posted...
Would anyone be interested in seeing the quotes Shapiro claims to have gotten about the show, or are we dismissing anything written by Shapiro, even if it's a direct quote and not an interpretation of intent, as objectively false because of who he is?


sure. the only source on this i can find is from the blaze

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/05/31/is-sesame-street-spreading-left-wing-propaganda-exec-admits-yes

and nothing in the article supports the claim that Sesame Street is leftist propaganda.
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 4:36:14 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Would anyone be interested in seeing the quotes Shapiro claims to have gotten about the show, or are we dismissing anything written by Shapiro, even if it's a direct quote and not an interpretation of intent, as objectively false because of who he is?


sure. the only source on this i can find is from the blaze

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/05/31/is-sesame-street-spreading-left-wing-propaganda-exec-admits-yes

and nothing in the article supports the claim that Sesame Street is leftist propaganda.


So I also found this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/05/sesame-street-used-spread-secret-political-messages-insiders-admit/351222/

From what I see, these are the claims made:
Shapiro quotes Mike Dann, one of the show's founding executives, saying it "was not made for the sophisticated or the middle class." Early episodes featured the character Grover breaking bread with a hippie. Oscar, who lived in a rubbish bin, was supposed to address "conflicts arising from racial and ethnic diversity." Dann also told Shapiro he used the program in the wake of 9/11 to highlight how there were peaceful alternatives to war. Shameful! Criminal, even! In fairness to Shapiro, however, Sesame Street was criticized in the past for having an anti-right agenda in 2009, when it mockingly referred to Americas Fox News channel as "Pox News."


I'm going to assume that the "pox news" thing is true even though it isn't a direct quote.
The part that is less likely to be true because it's not a direct quote from someone else is the following:
Shapiro apparently interviewed "hundreds of industry insiders," some of whom actually admitted using their shows to "spread secret political messages."

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Giant_Aspirin
02/12/18 4:38:49 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
So I also found this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/05/sesame-street-used-spread-secret-political-messages-insiders-admit/351222/

From what I see, these are the claims made:

Shapiro quotes Mike Dann, one of the show's founding executives, saying it "was not made for the sophisticated or the middle class." Early episodes featured the character Grover breaking bread with a hippie. Oscar, who lived in a rubbish bin, was supposed to address "conflicts arising from racial and ethnic diversity." Dann also told Shapiro he used the program in the wake of 9/11 to highlight how there were peaceful alternatives to war. Shameful! Criminal, even! In fairness to Shapiro, however, Sesame Street was criticized in the past for having an anti-right agenda in 2009, when it mockingly referred to Americas Fox News channel as "Pox News."


the only thing in there that even remotely supports SS being "leftist propaganda" is the bit about "Pox news", which is debatable.
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 4:41:16 PM
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the only thing in there that even remotely supports SS being "leftist propaganda" is the bit about "Pox news", which is debatable.


Yea that's fair. You could maybe make an argument over the fact that since SS addresses a lot of social issues, if the writers are overwhelmingly left than it would result in kids being presented one possible way to handle those issues for many years before being exposed to other alternatives. I would say that falls well short of propaganda in and of itself because it lacks the intent, but I don't think its an unfair question to ask how social issues are presented to children if they're almost exclusively coming from one voice.
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spudger
02/12/18 4:41:32 PM
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none of those quotes show sesame st as liberal propaganda
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TheVipaGTS
02/12/18 4:42:53 PM
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none of those quotes show sesame st as liberal propaganda

But they mocked Fox News! (Or something). LIBERALS!
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spudger
02/12/18 4:44:31 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
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none of those quotes show sesame st as liberal propaganda

But they mocked Fox News! (Or something). LIBERALS!

thats what I love about our resident trumpeters. they project their own issues onto the story.
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MaverickXeo
02/12/18 4:51:02 PM
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They were talking about doing this for the last eight fucking years. The overall funding amount for PBS and NPR amounts to less than a thousandth of a percent of their annual budget. The amount of savings in the grand scheme of things is extremely negligible. This is a punitive measure - nothing more.


Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...
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Axiom
02/12/18 4:57:17 PM
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*Comes into see people in favor of this because PBS and NPR are "leftist propaganda"*

Holy shit you people are so blinded by your support for Trump that you will literally defend anything. Anyone that thinks this is a good thing are the exact problem with America
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Barenziah Boy Toy
02/12/18 4:57:30 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.
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Caution999
02/12/18 4:57:58 PM
#83:


Axiom posted...
*Comes into see people in favor of this because PBS and NPR are "leftist propaganda"*

Holy shit you people are so blinded by your support for Trump that you will literally defend anything. Anyone that thinks this is a good thing are the exact problem with America


Literally one person said that.
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MaverickXeo
02/12/18 5:01:13 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.


Was it? I do not know much of the subject; but I do know my statement stands on other things.
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DevsBro
02/12/18 5:01:50 PM
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I'll miss the classical music on NPR but I can't even remember the last time I watched, caught a glimpse of, heard anyone talk about or even thought about PBS.
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TheVipaGTS
02/12/18 5:02:31 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.


Was it? I do not know much of the subject; but I do know my statement stands on other things.

Yes. It wasnt something Obama proposed or supported. They were against it.
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Axiom
02/12/18 5:03:27 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.


Was it? I do not know much of the subject; but I do know my statement stands on other things.

Yes. Republicans proposed a bill that was shot down to defund them while Obama was in office
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CableZL
02/12/18 5:04:25 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...


That's false. It was an issue when Republicans brought it up before, too.
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A_Good_Boy
02/12/18 5:06:07 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.


Was it? I do not know much of the subject; but I do know my statement stands on other things.

Absolutely nothing? What a solid platform.
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P4wn4g3
02/12/18 5:07:53 PM
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Didn't he already do this 6 months ago? Trump likes his fake new cronies. They hate him, but so does everyone and he's still president lmso
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sktgamer_13dude
02/12/18 6:17:13 PM
#91:


Caution999 posted...
Doesn't "pot meet kettle" mean "Yeah you're right but so are you?"

wew lad.

Pot meet kettle means youre telling someone that something about them is negative when you do the exact same thing.
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littlebro07
02/12/18 7:24:08 PM
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mustang90 posted...
Orange douchebag should eliminate funding for secret service protection when he goes golfing if he really wanted to save money that fucking fool.


Lol this
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Kazi1212
02/12/18 8:05:17 PM
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Why would I want funding cut for state sponsored news? Theres no long term consequences for have a state managed media outlet
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008Zulu
02/12/18 8:08:39 PM
#94:


Kazi1212 posted...
Why would I want funding cut for state sponsored news? Theres no long term consequences for have a state managed media outlet

Trump wants his own state run news network don't forget.
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ScazarMeltex
02/12/18 8:12:58 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Its only an issue now because Trump is supporting it...

Its still pretty funny, people loved when Obama did things; but when Trump does it, they hate him. I guess thats just the way people are...

Obama wasn't supporting this. It was something considered by Republican congress.


Was it? I do not know much of the subject; but I do know my statement stands on other things.


If you don't know much on the subject you should probably shut up about it.
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masticatingman
02/12/18 8:49:09 PM
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NPR actually claimed they were unbiased in the recent past. Yeah, no.
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A_Good_Boy
02/12/18 8:50:23 PM
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masticatingman posted...
NPR actually claimed they were unbiased in the recent past. Yeah, no.

How are they wrong?
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masticatingman
02/12/18 8:51:27 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
masticatingman posted...
NPR actually claimed they were unbiased in the recent past. Yeah, no.

How are they wrong?


You should have listened to them the day after Trump was elected. I did.
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Questionmarktarius
02/12/18 8:56:02 PM
#99:


With a trillion dollar deficit and a twenty trillion dollar debt, all the discretionary spending needs to be eliminated. All of it.
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02/12/18 8:56:11 PM
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