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Mr Lasastryke
02/27/18 2:53:10 PM
#400:


SmartMuffin posted...
I'm not. Perhaps as a child he blamed the divorce on himself, which shattered his confidence permanently.

More likely, perhaps the divorce served as a triggering element towards his obsession with getting a beautiful girlfriend in the first place.


you're presenting him as a far more normal guy than he ever was, as evidenced by his manifesto and quotes from people who knew him well.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/27/18 2:58:05 PM
#401:


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Which is why I specifically said they played it at an above-average amount.


ok, so let's say that 90% of the mass murderers turn out to have played an above-average amount of GTA. then what? we should just "look into it"?

interesting how hesistant you are to say that there's causation there, but you're already 100% convinced that there's a causal relationship between single moms and mass murderers. nothing to "look into" there, you've already drawn your conclusion.
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SmartMuffin
02/27/18 11:27:51 PM
#402:


http://reason.com/blog/2018/02/25/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-wont

When asked whether a more competent sheriff's office could have prevented the horrific tragedy that claimed the lives of 17 people, Israel said, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, O.J. Simpson would still be in the record books."

Tapper countered with, "I don't know what that means."


Don't worry tho folks - the police will keep you safe.
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Jakyl25
02/27/18 11:49:08 PM
#403:


What the fuck DOES that mean?
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 12:19:59 AM
#404:


Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 2:45:13 PM
#405:


https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/26/why-why-why-why-why-why/

If you thought "dating site for Trump supporters" was ridiculous, you'll love "dating site for left-wing journalists of unknown blogs"
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EndOfDiscOne
02/28/18 2:57:49 PM
#406:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/26/why-why-why-why-why-why/

If you thought "dating site for Trump supporters" was ridiculous, you'll love "dating site for left-wing journalists of unknown blogs"


Makes sense. There's no such thing as consent between a man with a blue tick and a woman without one. That's abuse of power.
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 3:22:35 PM
#407:


blue tick lives matter
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 3:38:02 PM
#408:


https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577

Trump says Florida police should have taken away the Stoneman Douglas shooter's guns "whether they had the right or not."


Modern conservative values
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 3:39:52 PM
#409:


That's pretty much exactly what everyone on the left is proposing!
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 3:41:21 PM
#410:


Yeah Im just laughing that Republicans are gonna want this now
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 3:46:11 PM
#411:


Although I have to add that the left wants to GIVE them the right, not just to be the hindsight police.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 3:48:01 PM
#412:


Jakyl25 posted...
Although I have to add that the left wants to GIVE them the right, not just to be the hindsight police.


I'm not sure that's right. I've seen a hell of a lot more "fuck the second amendment, I don't care" posts than "repeal the second amendment" posts...
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 3:50:05 PM
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Maybe I hang out in more reasonable leftist (oxymoron!) circles, but most people I know seem to think that there can be further gun control that doesnt infringe on the second amendment
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:14:44 PM
#414:


The Republican president of the United States, who was endorsed by the NRA: A lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures, I like taking the guns early.


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/968954417402834944

Truly owning the liberals as he was elected to do
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 4:15:15 PM
#415:


They can't be given the right unless you mend the 2nd amendment which no statist wants to do because that would imply the constitution has value
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Mr Lasastryke
02/28/18 4:24:49 PM
#416:


foolm0r0n posted...
which no statist wants to do because that would imply the constitution has value


why would all statists be against the constitution? the constitution is literally a description of the principles according to which the government should operate. it's the anti-statists who should think the constitution is worthless crap by default.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 4:28:14 PM
#417:


the constitution is literally a description of the principles according to which the government should operate


In theory, sure.

But in practice, the US constitution is basically just a list of limitations set on what the federal government is allowed to do.

Statists want government to have no limits, so any outcome where "the constitution doesn't matter" is obviously superior to one where we carefully change the constitution so that we're careful that we are still complying with it.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/28/18 4:31:51 PM
#418:


SmartMuffin posted...
Statists want government to have no limits,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O8J2locx5o

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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 4:33:52 PM
#419:


The state knows better than any individual or group of individuals, whether it's a minority with a gun today or some rich dudes 300 years ago. That's the idea.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 5:38:42 PM
#420:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/suit-claims-pwcs-campus-recruiting-disadvantages-older-job-seekers-1519850508

a ruling against on-campus recruiting would absolutely destroy the value proposition of going to graduate business school, and wouldn't be that great for undergrad programs either

which is probably good in the long run

and ok for me because I already used this system to triple my income and im now on the inside, so im safe
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Mr Lasastryke
02/28/18 5:54:47 PM
#421:


foolm0r0n posted...
The state knows better than any individual or group of individuals, whether it's a minority with a gun today or some rich dudes 300 years ago. That's the idea.


pretty sure there are plenty of statists who don't believe this at all, especially now that "the state" = "donald trump." if you define "statists" as "people who think the state always knows best no matter what" i don't think these people actually exist.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 6:05:45 PM
#422:


especially now that "the state" = "donald trump


They don't think this though. They think Trump is a horrible outsider usurper that fortunately, will soon be forced out by our heroic state bureaucrats.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 6:06:12 PM
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Like, they are still calling for gun confiscation even when Trump controls the police and the military...
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Kenri
02/28/18 6:21:36 PM
#424:


SmartMuffin posted...
Like, they are still calling for gun confiscation even when Trump controls the police and the military...

Whose supporters are more likely to have guns right now to confiscate?
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 9:35:36 PM
#425:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
especially now that "the state" = "donald trump."

It's crazy how little effect this has had on statists. Though I guess it's just an extension of the whole "deep state" "Trump isn't actually in control" thing that Trumpers rave about.

What's even crazier is when you have statists say things like "we must give the FCC more power because Ajit Pai is evil and must be stopped"
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Mr Lasastryke
02/28/18 9:52:45 PM
#426:


foolm0r0n posted...
It's crazy how little effect this has had on statists.


little effect? on this board we've had 162 topics filled with posts by statists about how awful trump is and how he should immediately be removed from office. not sure what kind of effect you were expecting - you thought they would go protest on the streets every day?
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 9:59:48 PM
#427:


That's just normal anti-republican sentiment. I haven't seen many (though I have seen a non-zero amount) actually reduce their faith in government.
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SmartMuffin
02/28/18 11:01:24 PM
#428:


foolm0r0n posted...
That's just normal anti-republican sentiment. I haven't seen many (though I have seen a non-zero amount) actually reduce their faith in government.


yeah, literally nobody is saying "the fact that trump can take over the government means we should give the government less power"
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SmartMuffin
03/01/18 8:58:53 AM
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Mr Lasastryke
03/01/18 9:05:39 AM
#430:


foolm0r0n posted...
That's just normal anti-republican sentiment. I haven't seen many (though I have seen a non-zero amount) actually reduce their faith in government.


SmartMuffin posted...
yeah, literally nobody is saying "the fact that trump can take over the government means we should give the government less power"


yeah, but just because they don't think the state is always wrong doesn't mean the opposite - that they think the state is always right - is true. even if you use the "they don't think trump is the state" argument, it's not just trump. statists have also bashed the bushes, reagan, etc. etc. you can't say "they thought all of those guys weren't actually the state!" it's more like they think democracy is "always right," but not necessarily what democracy leads to.

to an extent i agree with you guys that it's weird that statists aren't calling for less power to the president/more power to the states, though. it's like they think doing that would do more damage in the long run, so they'd rather deal with a lunatic being set loose for four years and wait for a sensible person to get elected who has to clean up all the mess than fix the problem immediately. though part of it could also be a practical issue. there's a 0% chance the president is ever going to get less power, so why waste a lot of time and effort arguing that this should be the case?
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Mr Lasastryke
03/01/18 9:10:03 AM
#431:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/urgent-french-far-right-leader-marine-le-pen-charged-over-is-photos

free speech - european style


let's wait for the verdict in this case, shall we?
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Pokewars
03/01/18 9:32:53 AM
#432:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-01/urgent-french-far-right-leader-marine-le-pen-charged-over-is-photos

free speech - european style


let's wait for the verdict in this case, shall we?


The fact that there's even a case to begin with means France doesn't have freedom of speech.
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Mr Lasastryke
03/01/18 9:58:24 AM
#433:


there being a case means nothing. in the US people get sued for the most ridiculous things too.
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Pokewars
03/01/18 10:01:14 AM
#434:


French prosecutors filed preliminary charges

If the case eventually reaches trial and she's convicted, Le Pen could face up to three years in prison and 75,000 euros ($90,000) in fines.

This isn't a civil suit.
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Mr Lasastryke
03/01/18 10:10:19 AM
#435:


i know. and?
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Pokewars
03/01/18 10:13:59 AM
#436:


You were equating people getting sued for frivolous things to police pressing charges against someone for violating a law.
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foolm0r0n
03/01/18 11:04:35 AM
#437:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
there's a 0% chance the president is ever going to get less power, so why waste a lot of time and effort arguing that this should be the case?

The feds and the president have been losing power in several places over the years. It's not at all rare or difficult to do that. The biggest issue is the economy and dollars which are getting more centralized, but that's not everything.

Like I said, Trumpers now believe that the president and executive branch have no power and wish for a totalitarian dictatorship. That's where statism has ended up.
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SmartMuffin
03/01/18 10:40:09 PM
#438:


Not sure who is being more cynically calculated, the corporations who are changing gun rules that have zero effect on themselves (or on mass shootings), or Trump talking up all the things he totally would do about guns, but can't, because they're so clearly illegal/unconstitutional
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foolm0r0n
03/01/18 11:17:11 PM
#439:


Definitely not the option that requires Trump to have knowledge
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Jakyl25
03/02/18 10:42:10 AM
#440:


Trump defends his protectionist tariffs

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/969558431802806272?s=21

We must protect our country and our workers. Our steel industry is in bad shape. IF YOU DONT HAVE STEEL, YOU DONT HAVE A COUNTRY!


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SmartMuffin
03/02/18 10:48:09 AM
#441:


GFWOB keeps pressuring me to meet her parents. As a non-sex-having person I feel like that's something I shouldn't have to do, but it also seems like it's part of her criteria for considering this to be a "serious" relationship...
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Mr Lasastryke
03/02/18 10:56:59 AM
#442:


do it. maybe it'll be like a hilarious romcom.
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foolm0r0n
03/02/18 10:58:57 AM
#443:


I would definitely draw a line there. It's only fun meeting parents when you know in the back of your mind (and they do too) that you raw dogged her probably not even 12 hours ago.
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SmartMuffin
03/02/18 11:00:34 AM
#444:


I don't think I really have a choice. It's either this or break up with her or drag out the whole "board games and dinner" thing for as long as she's willing to put up with it?
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foolm0r0n
03/02/18 11:02:29 AM
#445:


You just described a choice with 3 options
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EndOfDiscOne
03/02/18 11:28:14 AM
#446:


https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/2/17070624/google-youtube-wilberg-recruiter-hiring-reverse-discrimination-lawsuit

I'm shocked that Google would do this...
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SmartMuffin
03/02/18 11:33:53 AM
#447:


literally every company is doing that

if some of these lawsuits actually succeed it will literally throw corporate hiring, recruiting, PR, and HR departments into complete chaos
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CeraSeptem
03/02/18 12:21:14 PM
#448:


You definitely have to draw the line on this one.
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redrocket_pub
03/02/18 1:06:22 PM
#449:


CeraSeptem posted...
You definitely have to draw the line on this one.


Or not. Maybe it will lead to marriage and then you could actually have sex with her!
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