Current Events > Poll for Americans: Do you support a ban on firearms? (except police/military)

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No. I'd be more in favor of things like limiting magazine sizes.
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PotHeadDog posted...

No. I'd be more in favor of things like limiting magazine sizes.

yeah that way only 20 people would be killed instead of 50

/sarcasm

FLUFFYGERM posted...

gbpxl posted...

it's a lot easier to buy a gun than it is to hijack a semi or build a bomb

and the point was that banning shit wouldn't stop someone committed to mass murder. it would just penalize law abiding citizens by stripping them of their right to bear arms / defend themselves / etc

wrong. the Vegas shooter's gun (almost all of them) were purchased LEGALLY

wait a second why are we even responding to an obvious alt account?
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Against banning, but I will be fine with a licensing system similar to driver licensing that includes an educational component.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

wait a second why are we even responding to an obvious alt account?

alt accounts matter
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PentelPaint posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

"But apples and oranges"
But I don't care.

All I see is "LALALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU MY GUNS LALALALAL".

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

never seen anyone walk into a school or a movie theater and kill people with a pack of cigs.
never seen a guy shoot a bunch of people at a concert out of his hotel window with a cigarette.
never seen a toddler blow off his sisters head with a cig
never seen a depressed dude take his own life when he had a bad moment with a pack of marlboros.
never seen cops shoot someone cause they thought he had a cigarette in his hand

If you can't refute this, then you'll still be stuck as a sociopathic gun nut whose opinion don't deserve to be taken seriously.

Never seen a law biding citizen commit murder
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Who needs guns when you have these? *Flexes biceps*
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We cant stop drugs or people coming into this country...so if guns are banned only criminals would have them...not very logical

Plus no law biding citizen has ever murdered anyone....and also fun fact a NRA member never committed a mass murder
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Very very pleased at the poll results. Proud of CE for once
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KingCrabCake posted...

We cant stop drugs or people coming into this country...so if guns are banned only criminals would have them...not very logical

Plus no law biding citizen has ever murdered anyone....and also fun fact a NRA member never committed a mass murder

they might not have committed mass murder but they enable it by allowing the guns to be bought by future mass murderers

gbpxl posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

We cant stop drugs or people coming into this country...so if guns are banned only criminals would have them...not very logical

Plus no law biding citizen has ever murdered anyone....and also fun fact a NRA member never committed a mass murder

they might not have committed mass murder but they enable it by allowing the guns to be bought by future mass murderers

Nope. They dont. Not a single law biding citizen has ever committed murder
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KingCrabCake posted...

gbpxl posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

We cant stop drugs or people coming into this country...so if guns are banned only criminals would have them...not very logical

Plus no law biding citizen has ever murdered anyone....and also fun fact a NRA member never committed a mass murder

they might not have committed mass murder but they enable it by allowing the guns to be bought by future mass murderers

Nope. They dont. Not a single law biding citizen has ever committed murder

ok. and?

gbpxl posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

gbpxl posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

We cant stop drugs or people coming into this country...so if guns are banned only criminals would have them...not very logical

Plus no law biding citizen has ever murdered anyone....and also fun fact a NRA member never committed a mass murder

they might not have committed mass murder but they enable it by allowing the guns to be bought by future mass murderers

Nope. They dont. Not a single law biding citizen has ever committed murder

ok. and?

So banning guns does nothing but helps criminals
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Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.

There is no reason to change it at all. Thus why none have been giving
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KingCrabCake posted...

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.

There is no reason to change it at all. Thus why none have been giving

I hope for your sake you will always feel that way.
Then keep killing each other over there, not my problem.
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.

There is no reason to change it at all. Thus why none have been giving

I hope for your sake you will always feel that way.
Then keep killing each other over there, not my problem.

People get killed everywhere. I wish there werent criminals but there is. Not much i can do but protect myself from them
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Talking about a gun ban in America is pointless, as it won't ever happen.

What needs to happen is a more responsible talk about gun control, which neither sides seems willing to have.
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KingCrabCake posted...

People get killed everywhere. I wish there werent criminals but there is. Not much i can do but protect myself from them

I don't remember the last time a guy took a bunch of guns into a hotel room and fired into a crowd of people at a concert in my country but ok...but if you think that it's a normal part of life and that it's normal for similar events to happen every few months then I feel sorry for you. And don't blame it on crazy people or mental problem, cause every country truly has those.
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

People get killed everywhere. I wish there werent criminals but there is. Not much i can do but protect myself from them

I don't remember the last time a guy took a bunch of guns into a hotel room and fired into a crowd of people at a concert in my country but ok...but if you think that it's a normal part of life and that it's normal for similar events to happen every few months then I feel sorry for you. And don't blame it on crazy people or mental problem, cause every country truly has those.

Yeah, that is one strange thing. America's refusal to accept it has a gun problem when it clearly does. What other western country had violence to this level, and so often?
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Nah I own guns for hunting but I'd like stricter laws and control though

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

People get killed everywhere. I wish there werent criminals but there is. Not much i can do but protect myself from them

I don't remember the last time a guy took a bunch of guns into a hotel room and fired into a crowd of people at a concert in my country but ok...but if you think that it's a normal part of life and that it's normal for similar events to happen every few months then I feel sorry for you. And don't blame it on crazy people or mental problem, cause every country truly has those.

What country are you from and yes you uzed a complete rare occurrence. Congrats
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

People get killed everywhere. I wish there werent criminals but there is. Not much i can do but protect myself from them

I don't remember the last time a guy took a bunch of guns into a hotel room and fired into a crowd of people at a concert in my country but ok...but if you think that it's a normal part of life and that it's normal for similar events to happen every few months then I feel sorry for you. And don't blame it on crazy people or mental problem, cause every country truly has those.

I agree with everything you said and I'll add that basically what I hear him say is "if a lot of people have to be killed in order for me to still have guns, so be it"

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.

How would you remove guns from the population without violation of the Constitution?
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

the big problem and something many gun controllers dont understand is that you are NOT going to be able to do a ban or most types of restrictions in this country. theres too many guns, the gun community and culture is too large to let you succeed in any meaningful way. it doesnt matter what your feelings are.

with that the way gun control advocates try to pass their laws make them seem like idiots. their intentions may be good, but in reality they know practically nothing about the item and yet are making blanket restrictions on it to others. this makes them seem like fools to the gun community and not worthy of any meaningful discussion so you tend to have a constant stand still.

if you want anything to change you need to go after other solutions.

personally i dont think many really understand the ramifications in trying to outright restrict guns in this country and what it will do.
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I support more regulations but not an outright ban.
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gguirao posted...

I support more regulations but not an outright ban.

This. I don't think an outright ban is even possible anyway, it would create a lot more issues to begin with.

Philoktetes posted...

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

I'm German but I don't think guns should be completely banned. They aren't here either...shooting is a sport after all, and hunters need guns too.

I just don't think you should be able to walk into a walmart and walk out with a gun. It just needs to be expensive and hard as hell to get one. Like most permits for things are. if you consider yourself a responsible gun owner, you should have to prove it.

making things arbitrarily expensive is classism

Yeah! So glad we have strong republicans who care about the lower class and their ability to buy guns at reasonable prices. It's also awesome how expensive healthcare is! I love living in the land where it's cheaper to murder another poor person than to save lives, it's the best.
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Conflict posted...

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Conflict posted...

There's already way too many guns in the country,

and there is absolutely no point in trying to change this right? With more restrictions? Or a ban? Even if it may take a few decades or so?

nope not at all, keep killing each other one generation after the next.

What exactly is your solution that wouldn't infringe on the 2nd amendment

Like do you seriously think there's a 'restriction' that wouldn't affect responsible gun owners more than criminals? Because these shootings are going to continue to happen regardless of what you suggest. Criminals will still get them illegally, and in fact, there'd be more victims, since people wouldn't be able to defend themselves in home invasions and whatnot.

Oh, awesome, you're right! All those crazed loner kids shooting up schools have way too many black market gun connections, no point in trying to save people's lives.

Think of how INCONVENIENT it would be to actually have to get tested and licensed and checked out before you're allowed to have something is literally made to murder people as effectively as possible.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

wait a second why are we even responding to me

Ftfy
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I think we should take all firearms and ship them to Australia, so the people there can defend themselves from the hell-animals.
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MrNintendo1213 posted...

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Think of how INCONVENIENT it would be to actually have to get tested and licensed and checked out before you're allowed to have something is literally made to murder people as effectively as possible.

How would that stop kids from stealing guns ? Lol
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You cannot ban guns in the US and expect to see the kind of results places like Australia had. The US has WAY more guns in circulation than any other country. They simply become contraband, not poof into thin air.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

You cannot ban guns in the US and expect to see the kind of results places like Australia had. The US has WAY more guns in circulation than any other country. They simply become contraband, not poof into thin air.

Plus US is not an island
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Plus I think the biggest reason is the government absolutely does not want to spend that much money tracking down and obtaining all those guns.
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gbpxl posted...

What are your thoughts on mace, knives, swords, stun-guns, etc (non-lethal weapons)

My thought is they are all outclassed by a gun and I will personally protect myself to the best of my ability. ie; a gun
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a mandatory buyback would also cost the US billions. australia paid 500million to get 600k guns off the streets (which funny enough are back on the streets with interest now). the US has ~175x the amount of firearms than australia did BEFORE the buy back. assuming its successful in any meaningful way youre probably talking hundreds of billions of spending maybe even trillions. and this was under the pretense that you HAD to do it or face criminal charges. optional ones are one thing (and are taken advantage of in hilarious ways), but you will never see a system like australia's in the US. that time is LONG past.
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The results in this topic made me happy.
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