Current Events > Is it wrong to worship Talos?

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JustMonika
02/01/18 12:10:54 PM
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Is it wrong to worship Talos?


Filthy humans.
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Zikten
02/01/18 12:11:26 PM
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isnt he the native God of the Nords? then no. it's their religion. to say it's wrong is racist.
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DezDroppedFreak
02/01/18 12:12:20 PM
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By the Eight what heresy
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Khajiit
02/01/18 12:14:39 PM
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Khajiit tried to worship Talos and was wrongfully imprisoned.

Khajiit is wrongfully imprisoned most days, so Khajiit doesn't see much difference.
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Funkydog
02/01/18 12:18:41 PM
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Khajiit posted...
Khajiit tried to worship Talos and was wrongfully imprisoned.

Khajiit is wrongfully imprisoned most days, so Khajiit doesn't see much difference.

Wrongfully released, you mean.
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Paragon21XX
02/01/18 1:09:20 PM
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Talos the mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give praise!

We are but maggots, writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars!

But you were once man! Aye! And as man, you said, "Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you."

Aye, love. Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. For he saw in us, in each of us, the future of Skyrim! The future of Tamriel!

And there it is, friends! The ugly truth! We are the children of man! Talos is the true god of man! Ascended from flesh, to rule the realm of spirit!

The very idea is inconceivable to our Elven overlords! Sharing the heavens with us? With man? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth!

Today, they take away your faith. But what of tomorrow? What then? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? Your children? Your very lives?

And what does the Empire do? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people!

So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine!

For we are the children of man! And we shall inherit both the heavens and the earth! And we, not the Elves or their toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever!

Terrible and powerful Talos! We, your unworthy servants, give praise! For only through your grace and benevolence may we truly reach enlightenment!

And deserve our praise you do, for we are one! Ere you ascended and the Eight became Nine, you walked among us, great Talos, not as god, but as man!

Trust in me, Current Events! Trust in Paragon21XX! For I am the chosen of Talos! I alone have been anointed by the Ninth to spread his holy word!
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hockeybub89
02/01/18 1:10:06 PM
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No, because he literally is divine. He's just not OG.
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:10:15 PM
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it's kinda messed up that people see the Nords and Talos as the bad guys, when they are the ones being oppressed and the Elves are clearly the racists. they are basically the white supremacists of that world.
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hockeybub89
02/01/18 1:11:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
it's kinda messed up that people see the Nords and Talos as the bad guys, when they are the ones being oppressed and the Elves are clearly the racists. they are basically the white supremacists of that world.

But there are clearly racist Nords too.
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DrizztLink
02/01/18 1:11:38 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
Talos the mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassai-*Gets arrowed in the face*

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Carlbertomfg
02/01/18 1:12:07 PM
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I could pin him.
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Ivynn
02/01/18 1:12:20 PM
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Don't you see? Elven supremacy is the only truth!
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K181
02/01/18 1:14:24 PM
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When I pray to a Shrine of Talos, I receive his blessing. Explain that, Eighters.
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DrizztLink
02/01/18 1:15:19 PM
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K181 posted...
When I pray to a Shrine of Talos, I receive his blessing. Explain that, Eighters.

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JustMonika
02/01/18 1:15:42 PM
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K181 posted...
When I pray to a Shrine of Talos, I receive his blessing. Explain that, Eighters.

The statues are enchanted.
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:15:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
But there are clearly racist Nords too.

doesn't make their entire native religion racist. no more than Odin is racist just cause some nazis choose him in our world. honestly I think that's why people think the nords are racists. because in the real world, there is a segment of nazis that praise the norse gods and viking imagry. even though there is nothing inherently racist about norse culture.
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:16:21 PM
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and there are more racist racist elves in the game than racist nords.
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Seitar
02/01/18 1:16:58 PM
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Everyone is talking about The Elder Scrolls but the only Talos for me is the bronze giant from Greek mythology.
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Duncanwii
02/01/18 1:17:42 PM
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I'm confused, what are we talking about?
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K181
02/01/18 1:18:01 PM
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JustMonika posted...
K181 posted...
When I pray to a Shrine of Talos, I receive his blessing. Explain that, Eighters.

The statues are enchanted.


Next you're going to claim that Secunda and Masser didn't really disappear.
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:19:17 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
I'm confused, what are we talking about?

a religion in the Elder Scrolls game series
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VectorChaos
02/01/18 1:19:57 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
By the Eight what heresy


Don't you mean Nine, Thalmor scum?
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JustMonika
02/01/18 1:20:00 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
I'm confused, what are we talking about?

How people who worship Talos are wrong.
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Duncanwii
02/01/18 1:20:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
Duncanwii posted...
I'm confused, what are we talking about?

a religion in the Elder Scrolls game series

Oh, I thought it was Game Of Thrones until someone mentioned elves.
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:20:10 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
The Nords fight elven racism with their own racism

even if that's true, I never see anyone whine about the elves. just the nords. and the elves started the fight and are the invaders. the nords are just living in their native land
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VectorChaos
02/01/18 1:27:17 PM
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Zikten posted...
it's kinda messed up that people see the Nords and Talos as the bad guys, when they are the ones being oppressed and the Elves are clearly the racists. they are basically the white supremacists of that world.


IIRC the end goal of Thalmor leadership is to unmake Mundus and return to the state they existed in before. I think it's said somewhere that Talos is important to preventing that and keeping Mundus together, and stopping his worship is key to getting around him.
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ThyCorndog
02/01/18 1:28:56 PM
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LITERALLY nothing wrong with worshipping Talos
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Zikten
02/01/18 1:33:44 PM
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VectorChaos posted...
IIRC the end goal of Thalmor leadership is to unmake Mundus and return to the state they existed in before. I think it's said somewhere that Talos is important to preventing that and keeping Mundus together, and stopping his worship is key to getting around him.

so then worshipping Talos is literally keeping the world together. and people who say that you shouldn't worship him, want the universe to end. got it.
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gunplagirl
02/01/18 2:16:55 PM
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Probably but the biggest crime in tamriel is the fashion. You should go to Radiant Raiment. (Note to mods, that's a store in skyrim)
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Reis
02/01/18 2:18:02 PM
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JustMonika posted...
Talos


Who
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Zikten
02/01/18 2:19:46 PM
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Reis posted...
JustMonika posted...
Talos


Who

a god in the elder scrolls universe that keeps the physical universe intact. Talos detractors either want the world to end, or they are ignorant of what Talos does
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Reis
02/01/18 2:23:57 PM
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Sounds like a cool guy. He's got my vote
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Funkydog
02/01/18 4:49:09 PM
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Zikten posted...
it's kinda messed up that people see the Nords and Talos as the bad guys, when they are the ones being oppressed and the Elves are clearly the racists. they are basically the white supremacists of that world.

I mean, wasn't it stated many a time the rule was never really enforced until Ulrik had his rebellion which forced the Empire to actually allow the Thalmor kidnap/death squads? I doubt the Empire hated Talos at least, but sometimes gotta make sacrifices!
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Zikten
02/01/18 4:52:59 PM
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Well now that I know that the elves want to destroy the world and what Talos does, I have very easy counters to all the anti Talos people
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SlashmanSG
02/01/18 5:08:20 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I doubt the Empire hated Talos at least, but sometimes gotta make sacrifices!

Yeah, I too find it hard to believe the Empire hated the person who founded the Empire...
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VectorChaos
02/01/18 6:50:51 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Zikten posted...
it's kinda messed up that people see the Nords and Talos as the bad guys, when they are the ones being oppressed and the Elves are clearly the racists. they are basically the white supremacists of that world.

I mean, wasn't it stated many a time the rule was never really enforced until Ulrik had his rebellion which forced the Empire to actually allow the Thalmor kidnap/death squads? I doubt the Empire hated Talos at least, but sometimes gotta make sacrifices!


This. Ulfric's rebellion forced the Imperials to allow the Thalmor to operate in Skyrim, because of the conditions of the treaty IIRC. The treaty was only signed after the recapture of the Imperial City by the Empire because "peace at any price" was preferable after the devastating losses of the war.

Ulfric is also literally compromised by the Thalmor after his capture at their hands during the war.

The Empire turned a blind eye to people privately worshipping Talos until Ulfric's rebellion forced their hand. The only reason they conceded the ban of Talos worship was because they had no ability to continue fighting (it actually prompted Hammerfell to abandon the Empire for their weakness - and Hammerfell continued to kick Thalmor ass on their own after the treaty)

A Stormcloak victory in canon would actually be the worst ending - Skyrim, Hammerfell, and the Empire cannot take on the Thalmor again alone (and the Thalmor absolutely intend to lick their wounds and assault the Empire again). The Thalmor want to divide and weaken the Empire.

Y'all need to read "The Great War", a book in Skyrim written by an Imperial officer that fought in the war.
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