Poll of the Day > FFVI was better

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Just saying.
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Nah just saiyan.
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Well it's true, FF6 is probably the best of the lot.
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there are things to like about FF6, but if you actually play it it hasn't aged that well at all IMO. in particular, the characters have very shallow development. the gameplay's not that great either.

it was mind-blowing for its time, but it doesn't really hold up today. it could use a complete redesign.
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Sahuagin posted...

the characters have very shallow development

Well, it's imbalanced. The core characters are very well developed, but some of the extras are like "mehhh, let's kill Hidon"

The gameplay is great though, albeit... easy. very easy. It's probably the easiest RPG in existence... it's not unreasonable to beat the game just holding the A button. But it does have its fair share of tactical bosses (ultros / Air Base / MagiMaster).
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Lokarin posted...

Well, it's imbalanced. The core characters are very well developed, but some of the extras are like "mehhh, let's kill Hidon"

very well developed? I feel like they're more defined by their appearance and name than by any actual character development. they're all basically their sprites, name, and a few one-dimensional properties. even kefka.
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Consider the fact that it was on the gameboy/SNES and also had the MOST playable characters out of ANY ff game
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Skystrike70 posted...

had the MOST playable characters out of ANY ff game

Well, quantity isn't everything.
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Lokarin posted...

Sahuagin posted...

the characters have very shallow development

Well, it's imbalanced. The core characters are very well developed, but some of the extras are like "mehhh, let's kill Hidon"

The gameplay is great though, albeit... easy. very easy. It's probably the easiest RPG in existence... it's not unreasonable to beat the game just holding the A button. But it does have its fair share of tactical bosses (ultros / Air Base / MagiMaster).

t is easy but its not even the easiest final fantasy, let alone rpg. mystic quest exists after all
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Who even cares anymore
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I never bought 5 for the GBA. I have others but used GBA carts are kind of pricey for a passing whim.

I actually liked the Tactics series a lot more, especially the GBA/DS versions.
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NeoSioType posted...

I never bought 5 for the GBA. I have others but used GBA carts are kind of pricey for a passing whim.

elg3cko posted...

I actually liked the Tactics series a lot more, especially the GBA/DS versions.

definitely finished tactics advanced
it's so funny how hardcore people complained when they added variety and challenges to the game to make it go faster
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FF6 is garbage.

likehelly posted...

FF6 is garbage.

all video games are garbage
ff6 is an arguably good piece of software that features everything like stats, character building and the active time battle system
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RoboXgp89 posted...

stats, character building and the active time battle system

By that logic, FFVII and FFIX are also good. Oh, and Chrono Trigger, as well.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

ff6 is an arguably good piece of software that features everything like stats, character building and the active time battle system

no.

ff6 is complete garbage. it's arguably one of the worst final fantasies.

likehelly posted...

it's arguably one of the worst final fantasies.

its also arguably the best final fantasy
that's the funny thing about opinions
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Its the best FF ever. End of the discussion.
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I'm going through the entire series and getting 100% in each one. I'm only on Dirge of Cerberus, but I've played 9, 10, 12 and 13 in the past, so I've played most of them at this point. Honestly, I thought FFVI was pretty mediocre. I think a lot of people had a great experience as a kid with it, but frankly it's a really rough game. The story is sometimes great, which are the parts people remember, and oftentimes just total garbage. People seem to often look past the total nonsensical parts of the story because of nostalgia. So many systems in the game are just... not done or completely unbalanced. They had a lot of ambition and ran out of time or funding or something. Sketch is largely junk and Rage is a hot mess. There's so much more, but I don't feel like ranting that much right now.

What really gets me is that this screwed up game that everyone praises constantly came out AFTER FFV. FFVI really felt like 1 step forward, 3 steps back compared to FFV, people really need to give that game a chance. I know, no childhood attached to it, I get it, but it's still a great game.
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Greenfox111 posted...

likehelly posted...

it's arguably one of the worst final fantasies.

its also arguably the best final fantasy
that's the funny thing about opinions

i don't have opinions though

i have facts

and the facts support that ff6 is trash

no facts support that ff6 isn't trash

avatarmight posted...

What really gets me is that this screwed up game that everyone praises constantly came out AFTER FFV. FFVI really felt like 1 step forward, 3 steps back compared to FFV, people really need to give that game a chance. I know, no childhood attached to it, I get it, but it's still a great game.

ff5 didn't release in america until the gameboy advance port.

likehelly posted...

ff5 didn't release in america until the gameboy advance port.

That's what I'm saying. Despite it not coming out during their childhood, they should still give it a go. My first sentence there is me complaining about Square doing a worse job with the sequel than the previous game.
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but they didn't
stat building was pre determined by classes in the previous games
most of your characters didn't have their own story
maybe ffv is better than ffvi action wise but all of the systems in ff6 and mario rpg legend of the seven stars are in ff7! not ffv or ff2 or dw2 and 3 or ff3
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VI is good. everybody likes VI.
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Its my favorite too. But this is Final Fantasy we're talking about. So when you say something is your favorite, you're saying "I love this great game slightly more than I love the rest of these great games."

Edit: Except Final Fantasy 2 (NES) which was terrible.
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avatarmight posted...

What really gets me is that this screwed up game that everyone praises constantly came out AFTER FFV. FFVI really felt like 1 step forward, 3 steps back compared to FFV,

I actually thought about this, and saw a pattern.

1: Class System
2: No Class System.
3: Class System
4. No Class System
5: Class system
6: No class system.

So you are partially right, in a way.
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I liked FFVI, and I can't even count the number of times I played through it.
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VI is pretty great, but I like V better.

avatarmight posted...

likehelly posted...

ff5 didn't release in america until the gameboy advance port.

That's what I'm saying. Despite it not coming out during their childhood, they should still give it a go. My first sentence there is me complaining about Square doing a worse job with the sequel than the previous game.

It had a PS1 port first. Granted the localization was questionable. If I recall that is the one where "wyvern" got mistakenly changed to "Y-Burn."

likehelly posted...

Greenfox111 posted...

likehelly posted...

it's arguably one of the worst final fantasies.

its also arguably the best final fantasy
that's the funny thing about opinions

i don't have opinions though

i have facts

and the facts support that ff6 is trash

no facts support that ff6 isn't trash

reeeeeee
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But FFVI is afraid of FFVII :)
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waterdeepchu posted...

avatarmight posted...

What really gets me is that this screwed up game that everyone praises constantly came out AFTER FFV. FFVI really felt like 1 step forward, 3 steps back compared to FFV,

I actually thought about this, and saw a pattern.

1: Class System
2: No Class System.
3: Class System
4. No Class System
5: Class system
6: No class system.

So you are partially right, in a way.

That's true about the class system, but that's not really what I meant. The class system is just a design choice. I mean really basic stuff like NPCs moving out of the way. In 5, you push against an NPC and its next move will be greatly sped up. Also, you can partially occupy the same square as the NPC momentarily in order to get past. I was really happy about this coming from 4. However, 6 was even worse than 4 in regards to this. NPCs are immovable walls in 6 and you just have to hope that they will eventually get out of your way and many of them move at the speed of molasses.

Also, towns are a pain to navigate. This is partially because of the stupid NPCs, but just going back in town and getting to shops or the inns was just annoying. No straight lines almost anywhere. You might say this adds to the atmosphere or realism or something, but frankly dodging 20 things every time I want to go to a shop or talk to someone specific was not fun.

These might sound like nitpicks, but 6 has these missteps all over the place in so many different regards. Meanwhile, 5 has most of this all figured out. It's like Square thought "you know, we've been improving the small things over the years, but this is too good at this point. Let's reverse all of it."
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