Current Events > Senate Democrats CAVE on DACA, fall in line with Republicans over budget demands

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iClockwork
01/25/18 5:54:25 AM
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/24/democrats-drop-dreamer-demand-with-budget-deal-in-reach-366992?cid=apn

Senate Democrats are willing to drop their demand that relief for Dreamers be tied to any long-term budget agreement.

The shift comes in response to the deal struck between Senate leaders Monday to reopen the government and begin debate on an immigration bill next month. Meanwhile, budget negotiators are expressing optimism that a two-year agreement to lift stiff caps on defense and domestic spending is increasingly within reach.

Were viewing [immigration and spending] on separate terms because they are on separate paths, Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Tuesday.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnells procedural concession means weve got a deadline and a process, Durbin added. That to me is a significant step forward. Its not everything I wanted, thats for sure, but its a step forward.


Democrats again fail to get anything accomplished and essentially turn their backs on dreamers.
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josifrees
01/25/18 6:04:28 AM
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Color me surprised Democrats show they have no spine yet again
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jumi
01/25/18 6:10:46 AM
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Look at the bright side: at least we can funnel more money to the already bloated military.industrial complex!
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iClockwork
01/25/18 6:19:10 AM
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jumi posted...
Look at the bright side: at least we can funnel more money to the already bloated military.industrial complex!

http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/infrastructure/370596-trump-to-announce-17-trillion-infrastructure-package-at

Nope it's going towards infrastructure not illegal immigrants.
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Kazi1212
01/25/18 6:20:55 AM
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luigi13579
01/25/18 6:21:11 AM
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To the surprise of no-one with any sense.
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iClockwork
01/25/18 6:23:22 AM
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Kazi1212 posted...
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/235/781/ae6

Could you explain how passing the budget and allocating $1.7 trillion towards United States infrastructure is a bad thing.
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DarkTransient
01/25/18 6:45:47 AM
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The whole thing of not budging on it was a publicity stunt in the first place. Unfortunately, it backfired even among many of their diehard supporters, with most realising the Democrats, and the Democrats alone, were to blame for the shutdown. Continuing it instead of backing down, like they should have in the first place given that DACA was not a budget issue, would have pretty much been political suicide.
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darkjedilink
01/25/18 6:51:49 AM
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iClockwork posted...
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/24/democrats-drop-dreamer-demand-with-budget-deal-in-reach-366992?cid=apn

Senate Democrats are willing to drop their demand that relief for Dreamers be tied to any long-term budget agreement.

The shift comes in response to the deal struck between Senate leaders Monday to reopen the government and begin debate on an immigration bill next month. Meanwhile, budget negotiators are expressing optimism that a two-year agreement to lift stiff caps on defense and domestic spending is increasingly within reach.

Were viewing [immigration and spending] on separate terms because they are on separate paths, Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Tuesday.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnells procedural concession means weve got a deadline and a process, Durbin added. That to me is a significant step forward. Its not everything I wanted, thats for sure, but its a step forward.


Democrats again fail to get anything accomplished and essentially turn their backs on dreamers.

Holding the needs of actual citizens hostage to protect illegal immigrants is political suicide.
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iClockwork
01/25/18 6:53:41 AM
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darkjedilink posted...

Holding the needs of actual citizens hostage to protect illegal immigrants is political suicide.

So they care about politics more than human beings. Got it.
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darkjedilink
01/25/18 6:58:10 AM
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iClockwork posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Holding the needs of actual citizens hostage to protect illegal immigrants is political suicide.

So they care about politics more than human beings. Got it.

How about caring about the human beings who actually obey the law MORE than those who don't? Why is that a bad thing?
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ssj3vegeta_
01/25/18 6:59:23 AM
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Flasbangs
01/25/18 7:00:24 AM
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Whip Dick Durbin
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Tmaster148
01/25/18 8:03:40 AM
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iClockwork posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Holding the needs of actual citizens hostage to protect illegal immigrants is political suicide.

So they care about politics more than human beings. Got it.


You really shouldn't respond to him. Not to mention calling DACA people illegal isn't accurate as DACA gives them legality.
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Mal_Fet
01/25/18 8:05:05 AM
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Art

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Deal
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darkjedilink
01/25/18 8:06:33 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
iClockwork posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Holding the needs of actual citizens hostage to protect illegal immigrants is political suicide.

So they care about politics more than human beings. Got it.

You really shouldn't respond to him. Not to mention calling DACA people illegal isn't accurate as DACA gives them legality.

No, DACA doesn't give them legality. It gave them a temporary reprieve from deportation (that's why it literally stands for "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals"), with the idea being that they'd either work to become legal citizens (which they didn't) or Congress would find a way to give them a path to citizenship (which they didn't).

Dreamers literally are illegal immigrants, and always have been.
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iClockwork
01/25/18 9:34:01 AM
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So do they just start getting deported back to their home?
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The_Weird_Gamer
01/25/18 9:35:12 AM
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lol Republicans
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Balrog0
01/25/18 9:39:43 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkEM67X3uxA


You play this game so well
So well in fact that they can tell
But we're on to you (lets go)
Cause your act is nothing new
And we can see right through it now
Your method is old, worn and used

So if you (swallow your pride)
Should decide to (spill your insides)
Take your time, find your spine
I swear you'll be just fine
If your backbone should find its way home
Through the whole above your neck (is where the trap is set)

You look so obvious... predictable...
And some day your games will catch up to you
So obvious...
And we all know
That some day your games will catch up to
(right now)
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