Current Events > Xbox boss explains how its push into Netflix-style gaming heralds a brand-new

(+) Yeah! (+)

business model in video games

http://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-one-netflix-of-gaming-interview-phil-spencer-2018-1

Fuckin Hail Satan bro
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Rentbox
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It's a business model people have been asking for, but really only Nintendo has the library to pull it off. And they'd fuck it up by only having a handful of obscure games available with maybe a rotating selection of one or two mid-tier games.
I'm not actually reading the article though because fuck Phil Spencer.
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close your account, welcher
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Xbox is currently the best console of this gen. Of course I will get attacked for saying this on NintendoFAQs and because their is an obsession with the PS4 from the weaboos on CE
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Rika_Furude posted...

close your account, welcher

My boy doesn't Welch. What did he welch on
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glitteringfairy posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

close your account, welcher

My boy doesn't Welch. What did he welch on

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76236224?page=1

read the last few posts

Anyways, I think it's a good idea. A lot of games get most of their profit from DLC and microtransactions these days.
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If they want that to ever be a bigger success they should lobby hard to fix internet infrastructure and ISP business practices in North America. >_>
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BLAKUboy posted...

It's a business model people have been asking for, but really only Nintendo has the library to pull it off. And they'd fuck it up by only having a handful of obscure games available with maybe a rotating selection of one or two mid-tier games.
I'm not actually reading the article though because fuck Phil Spencer.

Eh? The Xbox One can play three generations of console games. The Xbox Game Pass already has a pretty good library and it's just gonna keep growing.
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a42ozslushie posted...

Anyways, I think it's a good idea. A lot of games get most of their profit from DLC and microtransactions these days.

yeah. i could see microsoft enticing third parties with this idea. wait for sales to dry up and put it on game pass

@glitteringfairy posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

close your account, welcher

My boy doesn't Welch. What did he welch on

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76236224
in case you also agree with him about the "loophole", refer to post 25 in said topic
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lame move. I don't want to rent my games. MS needs to focus on making new IPs.
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FightingGames posted...

lame move. I don't want to rent my games. MS needs to focus on making new IPs.

don't trigger lightbulb

Stuff like this gives Microsoft more incentive to make a new and diverse IP's.

It's no longer about making sure an individual game is a success. It's about adding value to an entire service. This works out well for Netflix and I hope Microsoft follows their lead.
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FightingGames posted...

lame move. I don't want to rent my games. MS needs to focus on making new IPs.

They are

Game Pass is actually a quality service

But tbh if I really like a game I'll just buy it, so I feel this is a very limited range of people who will benefit from this
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Game Pass is actually a quality service

But tbh if I really like a game I'll just buy it, so I feel this is a very limited range of people who will benefit from this

That's why people buy dvds and not Netflix

Its the only way Xbox survives in console games
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Game Pass is actually a quality service

But tbh if I really like a game I'll just buy it, so I feel this is a very limited range of people who will benefit from this

That's why people buy dvds and not Netflix

Movies are a one and done thing unless it's a really good one though
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Comparing game ownership to movie ownership is incredibly faulty.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Movies are a one and done thing unless it's a really good one though

A lot of games are too. Single player games under 10 hours are struggling in sales a bit and this model should help.

That's why they really need a diverse range of titles. Another advantage is that you don't need to invest $60 to take a chance on a multiplayer game. Sea of Thieves will benefit a lot from this I think.

If you have a bunch of friends subscribed to this thing you'll have several games you can all just play whenever you want together. You don't need to rely on everyone buying the same games.
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Tmk posted...

Comparing game ownership to movie ownership is incredibly faulty.

The way I did it or how he did

Some games you want to play years after last playing them and you don't want to have a membership to do so.

Game Pass is great because it lets me blitz though games I would've normally neglected either due to price or availability
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There's definitely SOME kinds of games where a subscription would probably help exposure and such. Just...a lot of games where it'd not vibe super well.
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Tmk posted...

There's definitely SOME kinds of games where a subscription would probably help exposure and such. Just...a lot of games where it'd not vibe super well.

Like what?
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Tmk posted...

There's definitely SOME kinds of games where a subscription would probably help exposure and such. Just...a lot of games where it'd not vibe super well.

The price of an entire year of this is less than 2 brand new games. That will mean more to people

a42ozslushie posted...

Xbox is currently the best console of this gen. Of course I will get attacked for saying this on NintendoFAQs and because their is an obsession with the PS4 from the weaboos on CE

I own a PC. Why should I have an Xbox?
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Darmik posted...

Like what?

I honestly can't think of a particularly short game, since I havent' really played any in awhile...or if I did I forgot them. My recent games are things like Persona 5 and BotW. >_>
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Darmik posted...

Eh? The Xbox One can play three generations of console games.

And the Wii U could play 8 generations + Arcade.
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PepsiWithCoke posted...

Darmik posted...

Eh? The Xbox One can play three generations of console games.

And the Wii U could play 8 generations + Arcade.

If it had a Netflix style subscription model it probably would have sold more yeah. But it didn't. I don't think Nintendo would do anything like this for their modern games anyway.

For now this is Microsoft's for the taking.
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Tmk posted...

Darmik posted...

Like what?

I honestly can't think of a particularly short game, since I havent' really played any in awhile...or if I did I forgot them. My recent games are things like Persona 5 and BotW. >_>

well there's the problem

Godnorgosh posted...

Most people lack the Internet infrastructure in their localities to stream games with reasonable input delay, as TMK pointed out.

It's not a streaming service. You download the games to your hard drive.
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A game like Sea of Thieves will benefit from this but something like Halo/Forza doesn't need it imo.
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LIsJustice posted...

A game like Sea of Thieves will benefit from this but something like Halo/Forza doesn't need it imo.

I'd say for those games it's more about adding value to the Xbox Games Pass and proving that they're taking it seriously.
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Godnorgosh posted...

Most people lack the Internet infrastructure in their localities to stream games with reasonable input delay, as TMK pointed out.

good thing you dont stream games

The problem with downloading games with the crappy ISPs and crappy infrastructure is slow speeds and data caps.

I have a MONTHLY cap of 60GB.

Going digital is entirely off the table. My situation is far from a fringe case. And the thing is, ISPs have pushed for a long time to screw more people over on these fronts. What ISPs want to do and are doing is not only entirely at odds with the needs and well-being of consumers, but also entirely counter to things like this that the gaming industry wants.
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Who needs Game Pass when you can be like me and have a friend work for Microsoft in the Xbox division and you GameShare with his account. All those first-party games are free for me.
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Godnorgosh posted...

Oh, I see. It's a Netflix-style subscription service. It's not like the failure that was PS Now.

And MS execs said first party games would stay forever like Netflix Originals.
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Godnorgosh posted...

Most people lack the Internet infrastructure in their localities to stream games with reasonable input delay, as TMK pointed out.

Game Pass isn't a streaming service, you are probably thinking of PSNow.
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Xbox is dead after this generation as a console, so it makes sense to branch into something like this. I don't see how they pull it off, though. Nintendo and Valve are the only platforms that have access to enough games.
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I can't wait to rent 250 GB 4K games on my X1X
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XD

love the salt

But where Xbox Game Pass titles are downloaded into your library, Sony's service streams them over the internet to your console.

This is a huge selling point. Playstation Now requires a robust upload and download stream to play it effectively, meaning that if you're not in a major metro area with a good internet infrastructure, you can't use the service. Xbox Game Pass allowing you to download the games at your leisure is huge.
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Alucard188 posted...

But where Xbox Game Pass titles are downloaded into your library, Sony's service streams them over the internet to your console.

This is a huge selling point. Playstation Now requires a robust upload and download stream to play it effectively, meaning that if you're not in a major metro area with a good internet infrastructure, you can't use the service. Xbox Game Pass allowing you to download the games at your leisure is huge.

Even without a good internet connection, there's things like DLC compatibility and local multiplayer that makes Game Pass an overall much better deal than PS Now will ever be.
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Tmk posted...

I have a MONTHLY cap of 60GB.

What the fuck

Where do you live? I was bitching about my 1TB data limit last month.

Anyway, I'm probably going to subscribe to this shortly. I'm waiting a bit though to see if Microsoft comes out with a new level of Xbox Live that includes Game Pass. Like Xbox Platinum for like $130 a year or something like that. Currently it's $180 for both services for a year, which is still an incredible value considering the free games each month and the huge library GP has. I just hate having so many damn bills and turning two into one would be nice.
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I live somewhere the ISP-monopoly arbitrarily decided they'll never service. Living in the US, basically if you're not in a city you might just be fucked.

But hey, the 60 GB cap is pretty shitty, but on the plus side, it is also really slow, incredibly unreliable, online multiplayer-breaking high ping... But at least it only costs 120+ dollars a month, so eh, you get what you pay for.
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