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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 8:38:58 PM
#103:


Patchwork posted...
cjsdowg posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.


He was given a second to comply. The amount of the mental gymnastics you and other people like Darksaber310 are doing reminds me of the people who did mental gymnastics to let the killers of Emmett Till go.


Not the same thing at all.


He makes everything racial
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darkjedilink
01/26/18 8:48:32 PM
#104:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies

It would be awesome if criminals didn't shoot people. Someone should pass a law...
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A_Good_Boy
01/26/18 8:49:53 PM
#105:


darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies

It would be awesome if criminals didn't shoot people. Someone should pass a law...

Who did the guy in the OP shoot?
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 8:51:16 PM
#106:


Patchwork posted...


Not the same thing at all.


I see people making excuses for a black man getting shot. He was shot in one damn second, and you people think that is ok.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 8:54:11 PM
#107:


cjsdowg posted...
Patchwork posted...


Not the same thing at all.


I see people making excuses for a black man getting shot. He was shot in one damn second, and you people think that is ok.

Has nothing to do with his race
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 8:58:00 PM
#108:


SomeGuyPosting posted...

Has nothing to do with his race


Bullshit. If a white guy calls the police for help and then is almost admitted shot by the police. People would be running to defend him, the NRA would be speaking about gun rights and all this shit. The only thing I get here is black people should be ok with being shot in a second.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 9:06:41 PM
#109:


cjsdowg posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...

Has nothing to do with his race


Bullshit. If a white guy calls the police for help and then is almost admitted shot by the police. People would be running to defend him, the NRA would be speaking about gun rights and all this shit. The only thing I get here is black people should be ok with being shot in a second.


You just like being a victim and making everything about race. Grow up.
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 9:13:24 PM
#110:


SomeGuyPosting posted...

You just like being a victim and making everything about race. Grow up.


So what does this have to do about. A man called for help and was shot after second of being told to drop it. What do call that ?And grow up , so defending black people being shot for not reason.
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Monolith1676
01/26/18 9:20:14 PM
#111:


myztikrice posted...
cjsdowg posted...
myztikrice posted...
Not so cut and dry, apparently the gun was still in his hands when police told him to show his hands. Logic would dictate when the police arrive and shout at you to come out, you don't bring your gun with you


Logic would dictate that you give people time to follow your fucking orders.

You show your hands to show that nothing is in them. You've just gotten a call that an armed robber is in a home, a man walks out with a gun in his hand and starts to raise it. What do you think happens next


Stop being so reasonable.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 9:20:31 PM
#112:


cjsdowg posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...

You just like being a victim and making everything about race. Grow up.


So what does this have to do about. A man called for help and was shot after second of being told to drop it. What do call that ?And grow up , so defending black people being shot for not reason.


No grow up cause you make everything about race...everything. Like the comic book topic you have no clue what you were talking about kr what was being discussed yet you made it about Captain America being black when no one was even talking about Falcon. You just like making shit about race cause you like being the victim

He had a gun in his hand and didnt follow thru with orders it sucks balls he died but its kinda understandable
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 9:26:09 PM
#113:


SomeGuyPosting posted...


No grow up cause you make everything about race...everything. Like the comic book topic you have no clue what you were talking about kr what was being discussed yet you made it about Captain America being black when no one was even talking about Falcon. You just like making s*** about race cause you like being the victim

He had a gun in his hand and didnt follow thru with orders it sucks balls he died but its kinda understandable


First what you are talking about comic book topic.
Next he didn't have time to react.
Last you didn't even read the story for what happen.
You are just here defending the shooting a black guy and nothing more.
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 9:27:05 PM
#114:


Monolith1676 posted...
myztikrice posted...
cjsdowg posted...
myztikrice posted...
Not so cut and dry, apparently the gun was still in his hands when police told him to show his hands. Logic would dictate when the police arrive and shout at you to come out, you don't bring your gun with you


Logic would dictate that you give people time to follow your fucking orders.

You show your hands to show that nothing is in them. You've just gotten a call that an armed robber is in a home, a man walks out with a gun in his hand and starts to raise it. What do you think happens next


Stop being so reasonable.


He didn't start to raise it, the lawyer of the cop said it didn't matter if the guy shot tried to raise the gun. If the cop assumed that he did it was ok to shot him.
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PlsGodDontBanMe
01/26/18 9:35:15 PM
#115:


Wait so the guy walked out towards police, in an armed robbery situation, with a gun?

Lmfao jesus christ. I dont care how scared you are, no one should be dumb enough to walk out towards the cops with a gun in their hand, period. Jesus christ people. Its a shit situation and it sucks that it ended like this but stop putting the blame on the cops who correctly handled the situation. Dont be dumb and walk out with a fucking gun, its that simple

Race doesnt mean a damn thing. Guy could have been white, black, asian, hispanic, whatever. You walk out towards the police in an armed robbery situation with a gun, youre a fucking idiot.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 9:38:40 PM
#116:


cjsdowg posted...


First what you are talking about comic book topic.
Next he didn't have time to react.
Last you didn't even read the story for what happen.
You are just here defending the shooting a black guy and nothing more.


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76244882#50

I dont care about his fucking race
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EnragedSlith
01/26/18 9:43:18 PM
#117:


cjsdowg posted...
Patchwork posted...


Not the same thing at all.


I see people making excuses for a black man getting shot. He was shot in one damn second, and you people think that is ok.

I dont, I just always want more information from these stories than race baiting. Ive worked in emergency services and with police, and these stories seem so odd to me because the environment is always chaotic and occasionally dangerous and black people make up the bulk of calls. Why guns were used this one time makes me feel like there was a good reason for them to feel frightened

But I dont think police should be armed, anyway
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 9:44:12 PM
#118:


SomeGuyPosting posted...


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76244882#50

I dont care about his f***ing race


LOL really in a topic where people are complaining about minorities be bring up the double standards of the the way Sam was treated compared to everyone else that took over to Steve is out of place. Get out of here with that bullshit.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 9:45:08 PM
#119:


cjsdowg posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76244882#50

I dont care about his f***ing race


LOL really in a topic where people are complaining about minorities be bring up the double standards of the the way Sam was treated compared to everyone else that took over to Steve is out of place. Get out of here with that bullshit.


Umm the person you quoted wasnt talking about Sam at all. You just wanted to cry about the black man being held down as per usual.
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 9:51:13 PM
#120:


SomeGuyPosting posted...

Umm the person you quoted wasnt talking about Sam at all. You just wanted to cry about the black man being held down as per usual.


What in fuck are you talking about.

This what the guy said who I replied too.

"Hey guys, let's take an enduring and long-standing symbol of hope and justice, created by two Jewish men, and who made his debut by punching out hittler on the cover, and make him a literal Nazi. That way, black captain America = good, white captain America = literal nazi.

That'll go over well"


Black Captain America that is Sam.

So I am making it about race when I reply to someone who brings up race.
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Im_JustMe0129
01/26/18 9:52:02 PM
#121:


Again.....I still don't hate cops.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/27/18 2:27:05 AM
#123:


Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies


This is simplistic and unrealistic.

It's realistic in literally every first world country besides the US
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Darklit_Minuet
01/27/18 2:27:45 AM
#124:


darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies

It would be awesome if criminals didn't shoot people. Someone should pass a law...

Most of them don't. Why do you assume the worst of people?
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Patchwork
01/27/18 5:32:53 AM
#125:


EnragedSlith posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Patchwork posted...


Not the same thing at all.


I see people making excuses for a black man getting shot. He was shot in one damn second, and you people think that is ok.

I dont, I just always want more information from these stories than race baiting. Ive worked in emergency services and with police, and these stories seem so odd to me because the environment is always chaotic and occasionally dangerous and black people make up the bulk of calls. Why guns were used this one time makes me feel like there was a good reason for them to feel frightened

But I dont think police should be armed, anyway


In America, this doesn't work.
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uwnim
01/27/18 5:56:45 AM
#126:


This is why police need to be trained to deescalate situations. If the government believes he acted correctly, then I'll be willing to say the cop not being charged is fair, but the government should be fully responsible instead.
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Ilishe
01/27/18 6:00:36 AM
#127:


cjsdowg posted...
their fear of Black males causes them to overreact.


I'm not defending the shooter per-se, but it wasn't fear of a black man. It was fear of a (black in this case) man holding a gun when an armed robbery was just reported.

It's a sad misunderstanding and the victim is likely better off dead. Tragic.
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darkjedilink
01/27/18 10:28:10 AM
#128:


PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
Wait so the guy walked out towards police, in an armed robbery situation, with a gun?

Yes. That's exactly what happened.

Lmfao jesus christ. I dont care how scared you are, no one should be dumb enough to walk out towards the cops with a gun in their hand, period. Jesus christ people. Its a shit situation and it sucks that it ended like this but stop putting the blame on the cops who correctly handled the situation. Dont be dumb and walk out with a fucking gun, its that simple

Race doesnt mean a damn thing. Guy could have been white, black, asian, hispanic, whatever. You walk out towards the police in an armed robbery situation with a gun, youre a fucking idiot.

While this is all true, logical, and fact-based, liberals will never pass up a chance to ignore truth, logic, and facts to make something that isn't a racial issue into a racial issue. It's literally why Black Lives Matter is a thing.
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Knowledge_King
01/27/18 12:50:35 PM
#129:


People need to hold cops accountable as it's their JOB.

Think customer support. A normal person wouldn't take that kind of verbal abuse, but because it's your JOB, you're expected to take it.

Same with a cop. Because it's your JOB, you have to be more tolerable of dangerous things. It's what you literally signed up for. Yes you should wait until a gun's pointed at you, and possibly firing. Why? Because you're not a hit squad, you're meant to protect and save lives. So...like try that. Try issuing commands. Shooting first is what a civilian or a thug would do. Cops need to be held to a higher standard. Period.

No one else gets the benefit of the doubt in their jobs, except for police for some reason. And honestly it's the worst position/career/job to give that kind of leeway to as it leads to lost lives.
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