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Fishy
01/25/18 7:01:18 PM
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https://vimeo.com/127500763

Here's the dashcam btw
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CensorErik
01/25/18 7:09:07 PM
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PUT THE GU- *shoots home owner immediately*

Yeah, they'll still defend it.
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Mistere Man
01/25/18 7:12:11 PM
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This is very very sad, but logic dictates if you call the cops leave the gun inside when going out to greet them. Too many jumpy cops see a gun and shoot first ask questions later. Cops today need to grow a little more backbone you have a vest for a reason.
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Fishy
01/25/18 7:23:58 PM
#57:


Mistere Man posted...
This is very very sad, but logic dictates if you call the cops leave the gun inside when going out to greet them. Too many jumpy cops see a gun and shoot first ask questions later. Cops today need to grow a little more backbone you have a vest for a reason.

i love these topics it really shows you who just comes in and says shit without knowing a single thing about what they're talking about
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Mistere Man
01/25/18 9:32:10 PM
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Fishy posted...
Mistere Man posted...
This is very very sad, but logic dictates if you call the cops leave the gun inside when going out to greet them. Too many jumpy cops see a gun and shoot first ask questions later. Cops today need to grow a little more backbone you have a vest for a reason.

i love these topics it really shows you who just comes in and says shit without knowing a single thing about what they're talking about

Yeah my bad I thought this was about a different story where the guy came out of his house with the gun in hand after calling 911, and got shot. I should have read the info instead of just assuming it was based off the comments.
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Fishy
01/25/18 9:54:09 PM
#59:


that was more directed at your fucking stupid vest comment
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Mistere Man
01/25/18 9:56:16 PM
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Fishy posted...
that was more directed at your fucking stupid vest comment

Oh then please explain as I thought a vest was standard issues? Most every cop I see has one on.
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Fishy
01/25/18 10:04:25 PM
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How willing would you be to walk into a shootout wearing fabric that can take at maximum 3 bullets but also covers maybe 30% of your body?
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01/25/18 10:05:42 PM
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Mistere Man
01/25/18 10:22:53 PM
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Fishy posted...
How willing would you be to walk into a shootout wearing fabric that can take at maximum 3 bullets but also covers maybe 30% of your body?

I would not have a problem with it, but I wanted to be a soldier when I was younger.
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CensorErik
01/25/18 11:09:48 PM
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Fishy posted...
How willing would you be to walk into a shootout wearing fabric that can take at maximum 3 bullets but also covers maybe 30% of your body?

Oh, were they still having their shootout when the police arrived? Nope. In fact, if you listen to the dashboard cam's audio, you can hear them discussing the fact that it's over and the suspect was reported to have gone this way. They weren't walking into a shootout. Get your facts straight before you post inaccuracies like this.
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cjsdowg
01/25/18 11:25:50 PM
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Fishy posted...
How willing would you be to walk into a shootout wearing fabric that can take at maximum 3 bullets but also covers maybe 30% of your body?


I would be more willing to do than, then I being a black man can calling the police for help.
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wackyteen
01/25/18 11:35:20 PM
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Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone simply because they're armed.

Soldiers down range aren't allowed to just wantonly shoot armed local nationals approaching their vehicles. Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot armed local citizens that they're designated to protect and serve.
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ultimate reaver
01/25/18 11:37:14 PM
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Our police force will never improve beyond this as long as people continue to have such low standards for an armed force who holds your life in their hands during situations like this. They will continue to run into situations like this, people will desperately find any sort of element to distract from the main story, and the cycle will run ad infinitum
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wackyteen
01/25/18 11:39:36 PM
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And don't tell me that this situation is more stressful than a soldier being down range.

You're responding to a situation where you know you're walking into a situation with guns present vs being in a situation where anyone, every kid included, could be wearing an s-vest ready to blow.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/25/18 11:59:19 PM
#69:


wackyteen posted...
Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone simply because they're armed.

Soldiers down range aren't allowed to just wantonly shoot armed local nationals approaching their vehicles. Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot armed local citizens that they're designated to protect and serve.

Careful with this logic, people will think you're anti-cop
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marc55
01/26/18 12:21:29 AM
#70:


wackyteen posted...
Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone simply because they're armed.

Soldiers down range aren't allowed to just wantonly shoot armed local nationals approaching their vehicles. Cops shouldn't be allowed to shoot armed local citizens that they're designated to protect and serve.

problems is cops arent psychics they cant tell if someone holding a gun at a home where they were called over a robbery is going to shoot at them or not
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 12:26:50 AM
#71:


marc55 posted...

problems is cops arent psychics they cant tell if someone holding a gun at a home where they were called over a robbery is going to shoot at them or not


Nor are normal people , yet we can not just go shooting just anyone.
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CensorErik
01/26/18 4:24:39 PM
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If cops are so scared every time they see a gun, then why don't we hear about more people in open carry states being shot in the streets? Surely they walk towards and around cops everyday. Weird.
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Patchwork
01/26/18 4:34:46 PM
#73:


Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 4:37:53 PM
#74:


Patchwork posted...
Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.


Yeah they should wait til they got shot at!
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CensorErik
01/26/18 4:43:59 PM
#75:


SomeGuyPosting posted...
Patchwork posted...
Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.


Yeah they should wait til they got shot at!

CensorErik posted...
If cops are so scared every time they see a gun, then why don't we hear about more people in open carry states being shot in the streets? Surely they walk towards and around cops everyday. Weird.

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A_Good_Boy
01/26/18 4:50:50 PM
#76:


Don't bother, he's only in the topic just to make hot takes.
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wackyteen
01/26/18 5:05:16 PM
#77:


SomeGuyPosting posted...
Patchwork posted...
Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.


Yeah they should wait til they got shot at!


No, you should wait til you can confirm whether or not the dude with the weapon is hostile or not.
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Patchwork
01/26/18 5:09:23 PM
#78:


SomeGuyPosting posted...
Patchwork posted...
Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.


Yeah they should wait til they got shot at!


Is policing your profession?
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medzz
01/26/18 5:09:36 PM
#79:


Why no riots
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Darksaber310
01/26/18 5:32:29 PM
#80:


CensorErik posted...
If cops are so scared every time they see a gun, then why don't we hear about more people in open carry states being shot in the streets? Surely they walk towards and around cops everyday. Weird.


Because open carry is not brandishing? It's two entirely different things to have a rifle on your back or a pistol holstered, and to have a hot gun in your hand.

I've never had an encounter with the police where I had to defend my home with a firearm before, and even I know you confirm it's the cops with 911 you're on the phone with, and you go out to them with advance notice and empty and raised hands. You leave that gun on the floor where you were.

They don't know you, have no idea who the homeowner is, and have zero information about where the criminal is, they can only suppose they fled. How do you know this isn't the robber, terrified and about to fire?
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Teddytalks
01/26/18 5:35:13 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
myztikrice posted...
Not so cut and dry, apparently the gun was still in his hands when police told him to show his hands. Logic would dictate when the police arrive and shout at you to come out, you don't bring your gun with you

This.


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Teddytalks
01/26/18 5:40:37 PM
#82:


Darksaber310 posted...
CensorErik posted...
If cops are so scared every time they see a gun, then why don't we hear about more people in open carry states being shot in the streets? Surely they walk towards and around cops everyday. Weird.


Because open carry is not brandishing? It's two entirely different things to have a rifle on your back or a pistol holstered, and to have a hot gun in your hand.

I've never had an encounter with the police where I had to defend my home with a firearm before, and even I know you confirm it's the cops with 911 you're on the phone with, and you go out to them with advance notice and empty and raised hands. You leave that gun on the floor where you were.

They don't know you, have no idea who the homeowner is, and have zero information about where the criminal is, they can only suppose they fled. How do you know this isn't the robber, terrified and about to fire?


"HANDS UP! LOWER YOUR WEAPONS!"

What the fuck happened to simple negotiation? You can't shoot every person you see with a gun, especially when you know you are responding to a goddamn home invasion. They fucking knew better procedures, especially since they told him to hold his hands up first anyway. They just bitched out and fucked up their own protocol, violating their own rules. He should be fired and charged, with a civil suit costing then millions, if not tens of millions.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 5:45:42 PM
#83:


wackyteen posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...
Patchwork posted...
Cop is in the wrong. You'll have cops say you can't Monday morning QB each other, but you can't immediately open fire when a gun is present.


Yeah they should wait til they got shot at!


No, you should wait til you can confirm whether or not the dude with the weapon is hostile or not.

Exactly! Wait until the gun is pointed at the cops face!
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Nostradumbass
01/26/18 5:46:45 PM
#84:


Censor dude loves shitposting cops
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 5:47:05 PM
#85:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't bother, he's only in the topic just to make hot takes.


Nah man cops should totally wait til theyre looking down the barrel of a gun before they shoot
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EnragedSlith
01/26/18 5:48:30 PM
#86:


People realize that police work with a predominantly black population and dont use their guns in the vast majority of situations? My first question whenever I see these stories is what set them off in this one case out of thousands.
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Teddytalks
01/26/18 5:50:03 PM
#87:


SomeGuyPosting posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't bother, he's only in the topic just to make hot takes.


Nah man cops should totally wait til theyre looking down the barrel of a gun before they shoot


Instead they should go and shoot every person who have a gun they see... Oh wait, not if they white, then they negotiate with them.

https://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-police-officers-and-managed-not-get-killed

Gtfo outta here.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 5:51:51 PM
#88:


Teddytalks posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't bother, he's only in the topic just to make hot takes.


Nah man cops should totally wait til theyre looking down the barrel of a gun before they shoot


Instead they should go and shoot every person who have a gun they see... Oh wait, not if they white, then they negotiate with them.

https://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-police-officers-and-managed-not-get-killed

Gtfo outta here.


Yup no black guy ever pointed a gun at a cop and lived or didnt get shot. Nope. Not one
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Teddytalks
01/26/18 5:52:50 PM
#89:


EnragedSlith posted...
People realize that police work with a predominantly black population and dont use their guns in the vast majority of situations? My first question whenever I see these stories is what set them off in this one case out of thousands.


It doesn't really matter. One death can erase so much Goodwill that it can effectively remove those thousands of cases where there wasn't a gun death, especially since this is such a dumbass premise to begin with. They shouldn't be killing black people in standard interactions with them in the first goddamn place. Only in very certain circumstances should this ever be an issue, and those are the instances where your questions are valid. Unfortunately, when guns are involved, unlike white people, black people get killed more often than not.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 5:56:11 PM
#91:


Teddytalks posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't bother, he's only in the topic just to make hot takes.


Nah man cops should totally wait til theyre looking down the barrel of a gun before they shoot


Instead they should go and shoot every person who have a gun they see... Oh wait, not if they white, then they negotiate with them.

https://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-police-officers-and-managed-not-get-killed

Gtfo outta here.


A white man was just killed by swat like a week ago...he didnt even have a gun

Gtfo with your race baiting bullshit.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 5:57:27 PM
#92:


EnragedSlith posted...
People realize that police work with a predominantly black population and dont use their guns in the vast majority of situations? My first question whenever I see these stories is what set them off in this one case out of thousands.


Exactly the % of a cop with an unjust or even questionable killing of a black man is extremely small. But you know when that happens there needs to be riots
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Patchwork
01/26/18 6:15:22 PM
#93:


58,000 assaults on police in 2016 vs 960 killings.

Almost 58 assaults on police for every person shot and killed.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 6:17:49 PM
#94:


Patchwork posted...
58,000 assaults on police in 2016 vs 960 killings.

Almost 58 assaults on police for every person shot and killed.

CLM
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CensorErik
01/26/18 6:26:20 PM
#95:


@Nostradumbass posted...
Censor dude loves shitposting cops

Nah, I've been on the cop's side in other topics. Nice try though. I'm just usually on the side that actually has a genuine claim. Once in a while I'm proven to be on the wrong side and someone changes my mind. It's never someone who posts made up nonsense like you just did, but maybe if you post an actual point of discussion you can prove me wrong and I'll concede. Or, maybe you'll just not post again at all. Either way, I'm fine.
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marc55
01/26/18 7:58:57 PM
#96:


CensorErik posted...
If cops are so scared every time they see a gun, then why don't we hear about more people in open carry states being shot in the streets? Surely they walk towards and around cops everyday. Weird.


on sites where they were just called over a robery ?
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DarkTransient
01/26/18 8:09:06 PM
#97:


If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/26/18 8:13:49 PM
#98:


DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies
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Patchwork
01/26/18 8:29:03 PM
#99:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.

Here's a better idea - don't shoot people. That way neither of you dies


This is simplistic and unrealistic.
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cjsdowg
01/26/18 8:33:38 PM
#100:


DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.


He was given a second to comply. The amount of the mental gymnastics you and other people like Darksaber310 are doing reminds me of the people who did mental gymnastics to let the killers of Emmett Till go.
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Patchwork
01/26/18 8:37:25 PM
#101:


cjsdowg posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.


He was given a second to comply. The amount of the mental gymnastics you and other people like Darksaber310 are doing reminds me of the people who did mental gymnastics to let the killers of Emmett Till go.


Not the same thing at all.
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 8:37:53 PM
#102:


cjsdowg posted...
DarkTransient posted...
If you are dealing with a situation where there is known to be an armed offender, if someone has a gun and does not comply with orders to put it down immediately, you shoot them. Better them than yourself. Black, white, cop, civilian, doesn't matter.


He was given a second to comply. The amount of the mental gymnastics you and other people like Darksaber310 are doing reminds me of the people who did mental gymnastics to let the killers of Emmett Till go.


Speaking of mental gymanstics
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