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_BlueMonk 01/21/18 1:07:30 PM #1:	i feel the real answer is there. answer this CE: Why did the Democrats act in the way they did? --- One in a Million, TWICE! Dahyun is BEST. <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:894495906] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>i feel the real answer is there. answer this CE: Why did the Democrats act in the way they did?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 1:08:37 PM #2:	Because they felt it was the best choice. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894495970] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Because they felt it was the best choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 1:11:38 PM #3:	Because now they can get the legislation that they want passed AND make the republicans look like a bunch of losers for upcoming elections. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894496148] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Because now they can get the legislation that they want passed AND make the republicans look like a bunch of losers for upcoming elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 01/21/18 1:11:38 PM #4:	Because the bill that was presented was garbage, and it was the fourth CR they tried to pass because Republicans don't actually want to negotiate a full budget with Democrats. Also notable that a bipartisan bill was presented to Trump, who went on a tirade about "shithole countries" because it didn't have his precious wall in it. So because Trump was against it, McConnell refused to put it up for a vote even if they could easily override the presumed veto. Democrats hold the least amount of blame for this shutdown. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:894496151] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Because the bill that was presented was garbage, and it was the fourth CR they tried to pass because Republicans don't actually want to negotiate a full budget with Democrats. Also notable that a bipartisan bill was presented to Trump, who went on a tirade about "shithole countries" because it didn't have his precious wall in it. So because Trump was against it, McConnell refused to put it up for a vote even if they could easily override the presumed veto. Democrats hold the least amount of blame for this shutdown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BlueMonk 01/21/18 1:16:59 PM #5:	JE19426 posted... Because they felt it was the best choice. hm. that doesnt seem quite right. Hexenherz posted... Because now they can get the legislation that they want passed AND make the republicans look like a bunch of losers for upcoming elections. i think the republicans did that to themselves. and how can they get things passed if the GOP own the congress and white house? doesnt seem right. BLAKUboy posted... Republicans don't actually want to negotiate hmm.. BLAKUboy posted... McConnell refused to put it up for a vote even if they could easily override the presumed veto. hmmmm --- One in a Million, TWICE! Dahyun is BEST. <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:894496470] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Because they felt it was the best choice.</quote> hm. that doesnt seem quite right. <cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Because now they can get the legislation that they want passed AND make the republicans look like a bunch of losers for upcoming elections.</quote> i think the republicans did that to themselves. and how can they get things passed if the GOP own the congress and white house? doesnt seem right. <cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote> Republicans don't actually want to negotiate </quote> hmm.. <cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote> McConnell refused to put it up for a vote even if they could easily override the presumed veto.</quote> hmmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 1:27:35 PM #6:	How can the Republicans pass anything with this 60 vote requirement they have now, unless they get more Democrats on their side. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894497072] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>How can the Republicans pass anything with this 60 vote requirement they have now, unless they get more Democrats on their side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BlueMonk 01/21/18 1:28:10 PM #7:	Hexenherz posted... How can the Republicans pass anything with this 60 vote requirement they have now, unless they get more Democrats on their side. BLAKUboy posted... Because the bill that was presented was garbage, and it was the fourth CR they tried to pass because Republicans don't actually want to negotiate a full budget with Democrats. --- One in a Million, TWICE! Dahyun is BEST. <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:894497110] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>How can the Republicans pass anything with this 60 vote requirement they have now, unless they get more Democrats on their side.</quote> <cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Because the bill that was presented was garbage, and it was the fourth CR they tried to pass because Republicans don't actually want to negotiate a full budget with Democrats.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 01/21/18 1:28:47 PM #8:	They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:894497148] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 1:30:14 PM #9:	southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage Eh It's what the Republicans did in 2013 except it's for an actual noble cause instead of trying to screw people out of health care. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894497232] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> Eh It's what the Republicans did in 2013 except it's for an actual noble cause instead of trying to screw people out of health care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El Mexicano Texano 01/21/18 1:31:42 PM #10:	They wanted some days off and it was the only way to get them without wasting vacation or sick days --- http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/5EMTwE/GFaqs/Houston.jpg <cite>El Mexicano Texano posted [p:894497310] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>They wanted some days off and it was the only way to get them without wasting vacation or sick days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 01/21/18 1:32:07 PM #11:	southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage It's hard for it to be democratic sabotage when Trump is the main reason we're in this mess. He said he would sign whatever bill congress agreed too then later bitched about his wall not being in there which then caused the chain of events that lead to here. Simply if Trump didn't say anything, there would likely be no government shut down. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:894497336] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> It's hard for it to be democratic sabotage when Trump is the main reason we're in this mess. He said he would sign whatever bill congress agreed too then later bitched about his wall not being in there which then caused the chain of events that lead to here. Simply if Trump didn't say anything, there would likely be no government shut down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 01/21/18 1:32:48 PM #12:	southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage Thats why McConnell and Trump refused to vote on any bill that Democrats offered, even with ones that had concessions towards a possible wall? How about the bill that would have at least allowed military members to be paid? --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:894497373] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> Thats why McConnell and Trump refused to vote on any bill that Democrats offered, even with ones that had concessions towards a possible wall? How about the bill that would have at least allowed military members to be paid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 01/21/18 1:33:15 PM #13:	Trump really wants that wall, like holy shit. Just reading that one transcript when he was talking to the President of Mexico was just pathetic. Trump kept on going, "Hey man, if Mexico doesn't pay for the wall, it will make me look bad!". --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:894497406] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Trump really wants that wall, like holy shit. Just reading that one transcript when he was talking to the President of Mexico was just pathetic. Trump kept on going, "Hey man, if Mexico doesn't pay for the wall, it will make me look bad!".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 01/21/18 1:38:58 PM #14:	Hexenherz posted... southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage Eh It's what the Republicans did in 2013 except it's for an actual noble cause instead of trying to screw people out of health care. Noble cause? Allowing criminals to stay here? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:894497742] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote> They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> Eh It's what the Republicans did in 2013 except it's for an actual noble cause instead of trying to screw people out of health care.</quote> Noble cause? Allowing criminals to stay here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 1:39:21 PM #15:	lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894497760] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 1:40:22 PM #16:	_BlueMonk posted... hm. that doesnt seem quite right. How so? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894497819] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>_BlueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>hm. that doesnt seem quite right. </quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 01/21/18 1:42:04 PM #17:	Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:894497924] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 01/21/18 1:44:41 PM #18:	southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage most people are blaming republicans for this though --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:894498072] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> most people are blaming republicans for this though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 01/21/18 1:48:52 PM #19:	Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. in the same way that someone is guilty of possession of illegal drugs if someone planted it on them. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:894498346] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> in the same way that someone is guilty of possession of illegal drugs if someone planted it on them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/21/18 1:49:45 PM #20:	Muh illegalz! --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894498397] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Muh illegalz!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 1:50:55 PM #21:	Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894498464] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 1:53:06 PM #22:	Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894498611] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 01/21/18 1:54:07 PM #23:	ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:894498669] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/21/18 1:54:22 PM #24:	southcoast09 posted... They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage No it's Trump thinking the general public is stupid enough to think it's the democrats fault. Luckily most of us are not dumb enough to fall for it. Sadly enough of us are. Trump has been threatening this shutdown for months if the democrats don't agree to wall. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894498688] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>They did so thinking that the general public would be stupid enough to somehow think it was trump's fault. I'm glad people see this for what it is: Democratic sabotage</quote> No it's Trump thinking the general public is stupid enough to think it's the democrats fault. Luckily most of us are not dumb enough to fall for it. Sadly enough of us are. Trump has been threatening this shutdown for months if the democrats don't agree to wall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 1:54:25 PM #25:	ThePrinceFish posted... Well if they didn't literally break the law, Not all of them have and their still called illegal immigrants. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894498694] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Well if they didn't literally break the law,</quote> Not all of them have and their still called illegal immigrants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrBobGray 01/21/18 1:55:29 PM #26:	nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them. --- Do you have Prince Albert in a can? <cite>MrBobGray posted [p:894498762] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 1:56:57 PM #27:	nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894498870] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao 01/21/18 1:57:05 PM #28:	MrBobGray posted... nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them. I see you have no idea how long the citizenship process is. Also I would like to see this proof you seem to possess that every illegal immigrant "chose not" to become legal citizens. --- https://imgur.com/a/f52rH <cite>GeneralZhao posted [p:894498879] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrBobGray posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them.</quote> I see you have no idea how long the citizenship process is. Also I would like to see this proof you seem to possess that every illegal immigrant "chose not" to become legal citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/21/18 1:58:27 PM #30:	MrBobGray posted... Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them. This. If you're fuckin' 30 and still haven't done anything about it, despite Obama's coddling of illegal immigrants, you don't deserve to be here. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894498968] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrBobGray posted...</cite> <quote>Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them.</quote> This. If you're fuckin' 30 and still haven't done anything about it, despite Obama's coddling of illegal immigrants, you don't deserve to be here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 1:59:19 PM #31:	ThePrinceFish posted... Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law. You have no idea what you are talking about. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894499021] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law.</quote> You have no idea what you are talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrBobGray 01/21/18 1:59:40 PM #32:	GeneralZhao posted... MrBobGray posted... nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them. I see you have no idea how long the citizenship process is. Also I would like to see this proof you seem to possess that every illegal immigrant "chose not" to become legal citizens. I have every idea, and it doesnt take 10 fucking years. Stop spreading that myth. --- Do you have Prince Albert in a can? <cite>MrBobGray posted [p:894499037] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralZhao posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrBobGray posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> Theyve also been given plenty of time to become legal citizens and chose not to. Deport them.</quote> I see you have no idea how long the citizenship process is. Also I would like to see this proof you seem to possess that every illegal immigrant "chose not" to become legal citizens.</quote> I have every idea, and it doesnt take 10 fucking years. Stop spreading that myth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:00:06 PM #33:	JE19426 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law. You have no idea what you are talking about. You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499058] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law.</quote> You have no idea what you are talking about.</quote> You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 01/21/18 2:00:40 PM #34:	Civil violation =/= criminal law --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:894499097] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Civil violation =/= criminal law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrNintendo1213 01/21/18 2:01:32 PM #35:	ThePrinceFish posted... nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law. Oh, okay so you are indeed just mad at them for being born somewhere you weren't. Good job. --- Dot Dot Dot... <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted [p:894499154] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law.</quote> Oh, okay so you are indeed just mad at them for being born somewhere you weren't. Good job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:02:08 PM #36:	MrNintendo1213 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... nicklebro posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again. They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact. "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so... Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about. You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law. Oh, okay so you are indeed just mad at them for being born somewhere you weren't. Good job. That's not an argument about how the law recognizes people in the country. Good job. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499187] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ the "they're illegal they're criminals" argument again.</quote> They literally are though, there's no argument against that fact.</quote> "if they weren't criminals they wouldn't be called illegal!!" rofl</quote> Well if they didn't literally break the law, they literally wouldn't be called illegal, so...</quote> Kids who were brought here by their parents never broke the kaw, and they're known as illegal immigrants. And hey, they're actually the people were talking about.</quote> You can break a law without intending to. There is no age limit on the immigration process. Unless they were born on American soil, they have no lawful right to be in the country. Their very existence is trespass in the eyes of the law. So yeah, they did break the law.</quote> Oh, okay so you are indeed just mad at them for being born somewhere you weren't. Good job.</quote> That's not an argument about how the law recognizes people in the country. Good job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 2:02:09 PM #37:	ThePrinceFish posted... You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)? Nope. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894499191] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)?</quote> Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrBobGray 01/21/18 2:02:30 PM #38:	It takes 5 years. Five. Cinco. Theyve had plenty of time. Fuck em. --- Do you have Prince Albert in a can? <cite>MrBobGray posted [p:894499205] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>It takes 5 years. Five. Cinco. Theyve had plenty of time. Fuck em.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:03:04 PM #39:	JE19426 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)? Nope. So care to explain how I have no idea what I'm talking about when I say that immigration law makes no distinction between a child hopping the border dragged by their parents and a grown ass man who steps over the border? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499237] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>You're going to tell me that if someone was brought into the country as a child, they have some kind of legal recognition (that doesn't exist)?</quote> Nope.</quote> So care to explain how I have no idea what I'm talking about when I say that immigration law makes no distinction between a child hopping the border dragged by their parents and a grown ass man who steps over the border?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 2:03:23 PM #40:	MrBobGray posted... It takes 5 years. Five. Cinco. Theyve had plenty of time. Fuck em. p sure it also costs a lot of money. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894499256] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrBobGray posted...</cite> <quote>It takes 5 years. Five. Cinco. Theyve had plenty of time. Fuck em.</quote> p sure it also costs a lot of money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:04:16 PM #41:	Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499300] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/21/18 2:04:30 PM #42:	ThePrinceFish posted... So care to explain how I have no idea what I'm talking about when I say that immigration law makes no distinction between a child hopping the border dragged by their parents and a grown ass man who steps over the border? Easy. That's not what you said at all. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:894499313] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>So care to explain how I have no idea what I'm talking about when I say that immigration law makes no distinction between a child hopping the border dragged by their parents and a grown ass man who steps over the border?</quote> Easy. That's not what you said at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 01/21/18 2:04:58 PM #43:	Still waiting for someone to state the "noble cause" that the Democrats did this for. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:894499347] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>Still waiting for someone to state the "noble cause" that the Democrats did this for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 01/21/18 2:05:04 PM #44:	I don't think we should kick out people who have literally lived here nearly their entire lives. :v Can you imagine being thrown out and put into a country you have no connection to besides exiting the birth canal there? Though I do think we should fine them or something till they stop being lazy and get actual citizenship. There isn't any excuse for them not to have applied for it at this point. That doesn't mean we should round them up in the back of trucks and dump them on the other side of the border though. That is just republican nastiness. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:894499356] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>I don't think we should kick out people who have literally lived here nearly their entire lives. :v Can you imagine being thrown out and put into a country you have no connection to besides exiting the birth canal there? Though I do think we should fine them or something till they stop being lazy and get actual citizenship. There isn't any excuse for them not to have applied for it at this point. That doesn't mean we should round them up in the back of trucks and dump them on the other side of the border though. That is just republican nastiness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 2:05:08 PM #45:	ThePrinceFish posted... Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights. Huh, maybe they should. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894499361] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights.</quote> Huh, maybe they should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 01/21/18 2:05:38 PM #46:	so if i put drugs on someone, and a cop sees me do this, that person should still be arrested for possession of illegal substances? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:894499399] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>so if i put drugs on someone, and a cop sees me do this, that person should still be arrested for possession of illegal substances?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:05:39 PM #47:	Hexenherz posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights. Huh, maybe they should. Maybe. But reality dictates that they don't. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499403] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Like, you can say that fault lies with the parents and the kids deserve amnesty, but don't lie to yourself and pretend they have legal rights.</quote> Huh, maybe they should.</quote> Maybe. But reality dictates that they don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 01/21/18 2:08:09 PM #48:	The Daca kids had no path to citizenship. Anyone who wants to deport kids who are as American as anyone probably just hates brown people, is a horrible American and should go fuck themselves. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:894499557] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>The Daca kids had no path to citizenship. Anyone who wants to deport kids who are as American as anyone probably just hates brown people, is a horrible American and should go fuck themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/21/18 2:08:35 PM #49:	there's certainly no way that reality can be adjusted in this case guess we should just give up lol --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 94. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:894499584] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote>there's certainly no way that reality can be adjusted in this case guess we should just give up lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 01/21/18 2:09:15 PM #50:	Fam_Fam posted... so if i put drugs on someone, and a cop sees me do this, that person should still be arrested for possession of illegal substances? It would be more accurate if you put drugs on someone and that person knew about it and then kept them, and 10 years later still had them and a cop pulls them over and finds them. Yes in that situation they should be arrested. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:894499626] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>so if i put drugs on someone, and a cop sees me do this, that person should still be arrested for possession of illegal substances?</quote> It would be more accurate if you put drugs on someone and that person knew about it and then kept them, and 10 years later still had them and a cop pulls them over and finds them. Yes in that situation they should be arrested.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/21/18 2:09:41 PM #51:	Hexenherz posted... there's certainly no way that reality can be adjusted in this case guess we should just give up lol You can complain about a law being followed, and you can lobby for it to be changed. Doesn't mean you can try to pretend that it already did. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:894499652] in so the dem... [t:76226538]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>there's certainly no way that reality can be adjusted in this case guess we should just give up lol</quote> You can complain about a law being followed, and you can lobby for it to be changed. Doesn't mean you can try to pretend that it already did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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