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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 7:56:38 AM
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BioShock Infinite taught me that season passes are fucking bullshit if the developer doesn't want to say what's inside them until later

Tekken 7, Fallout 4, and upcoming BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle all have shit season passes and yet they were very eager for you to buy them before they revealed what was inside

Wow Jin-san, it's like a thrilling mystery or something!
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UncleBourbon33
01/18/18 7:57:28 AM
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Infinite was also a terrible game.
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 7:58:19 AM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Infinite was also a terrible game.


Core game was fine

Burial At Sea is a disgrace
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GunmaN1905
01/18/18 8:00:20 AM
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There's no chance I'm ever buying a console again until they drop that pay to play online and season pass bullshit.

You pay $60 for a game and then you have to pay for PS+/Xbox whatever it's called?
And a season pass in some games?

No thank you.
I'll stick with my $20-40 CD-keys for PC games that are free to play online after you purchase them.
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Youngster_Joey_
01/18/18 8:00:57 AM
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Bethesda literally made people think they were getting a deal by giving them a discounted price on it.

I was dumb enough to fall for it. I haven't even played anything in the season pass outside of Far Harbor
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Kaiganeer
01/18/18 8:01:37 AM
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i like being surprised
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 8:01:56 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Bethesda literally made people think they were getting a deal by giving them a discounted price on it.

I was dumb enough to fall for it. I haven't even played anything in the season pass outside of Far Harbor


Same. Luckily I got it at the "discount" price along with BioShock
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Vyrulisse
01/18/18 8:02:28 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Bethesda literally made people think they were getting a deal by giving them a discounted price on it.

I was dumb enough to fall for it. I haven't even played anything in the season pass outside of Far Harbor

It was a deal. I got it for $20 from GMG with a voucher along with the price cut. Far Harbor and Nuka World alone were worth it to me.
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El Mexicano Texano
01/18/18 8:02:31 AM
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You could just wait for them to release it all and buy the GOTY Edition next year or Complete Edition
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DarthAragorn
01/18/18 8:14:47 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Bethesda literally made people think they were getting a deal by giving them a discounted price on it.

I was dumb enough to fall for it. I haven't even played anything in the season pass outside of Far Harbor

It was a deal. I got it for $20 from GMG with a voucher along with the price cut. Far Harbor and Nuka World alone were worth it to me.

Yeah I agree with that
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l Dudeboy l
01/18/18 8:16:23 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
There's no chance I'm ever buying a console again until they drop that pay to play online and season pass bullshit.

You pay $60 for a game and then you have to pay for PS+/Xbox whatever it's called?
And a season pass in some games?

No thank you.
I'll stick with my $20-40 CD-keys for PC games that are free to play online after you purchase them.


It's easy enough to get console games for less than $60, and you don't have to buy season passes.
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LJRENEGADE
01/18/18 8:17:21 AM
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I usually never buy season passes because fuck that, but I bought Fallout 4's because Fallout 3, NV, their other games usually had good DLC, so I figured I'd just take the chance. And holy shit the DLC was so ass all around. Just reeked of low effort content. And they had the audacity the raise the price of that shit too. I'll probably never buy a season pass again, especially from Bethesda.

Bethesda's handling of the game after launch has been pretty shit and really soured my opinion on them. Fallout 4 was a day one buy for me and I had a great time with it but I don't think that will be the case for me with any of their future games.
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GunmaN1905
01/18/18 8:20:07 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
There's no chance I'm ever buying a console again until they drop that pay to play online and season pass bullshit.

You pay $60 for a game and then you have to pay for PS+/Xbox whatever it's called?
And a season pass in some games?

No thank you.
I'll stick with my $20-40 CD-keys for PC games that are free to play online after you purchase them.


It's easy enough to get console games for less than $60, and you don't have to buy season passes.


On release?
I have a friend who uses NA account to buy games because they're cheaper than here in EU, but that's about it.

And it's not that I couldn't afford it, it's just a matter of principle.
I feel like they're just trying to see what they can get away with until stop buying stuff.
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 8:21:43 AM
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Why do you think consoles are the only guilty party here?

Only reason PC regularly has cheaper prices is because there's more options for buying on the internet.

Like someone said, waiting tends to be the best bet for some games, whether that's a physical release or flash sale. I've gotten some fairly good prices during flash sales especially
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l Dudeboy l
01/18/18 8:21:54 AM
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I usually buy online. I know a couple of sites that are much more competitive in their pricing than shops, and tend to ship games to you early.
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l Dudeboy l
01/18/18 8:22:54 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Only reason PC regularly has cheaper prices is because there's more options for buying on the internet.


There's also no licensing fees to publish on PC.
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 8:25:03 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Only reason PC regularly has cheaper prices is because there's more options for buying on the internet.


There's also no licensing fees to publish on PC.


The MSRP pricing is the same regardless of platform; buying it cheaper doesn't teach them learn anything besides making complete editions.

Now Battlefield games, good DLC is always guaranteed there.
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GunmaN1905
01/18/18 8:27:21 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Why do you think consoles are the only guilty party here?

Only reason PC regularly has cheaper prices is because there's more options for buying on the internet.

Like someone said, waiting tends to be the best bet for some games, whether that's a physical release or flash sale. I've gotten some fairly good prices during flash sales especially


My bad, I guess.
My original point was that there should be no damn paywall after you pay the game.
It's ridiculous. And they hide it behind stuff like free games every month, etc.

As for season pass purchases, it's also pretty bad.
In my opinion, every game which has items that give stats purchasable with real money is bad.

Look at Valve, they're drowning in money and they have only two games that are popular right now.
One is free to play and the other one is $10.
Both have purchasable loot boxes and items, but all of those items are purely cosmetical and give no gameplay advantage. And people still buy tons of that shit.
Which just shows it can be done.
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Aristoph
01/18/18 8:27:35 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Now Battlefield games, good DLC is always guaranteed there.


I was just about to post that literally the only company I will get a season pass from is DICE and their Battlefield games. They're pretty spectacular when it comes to consistent, long-term support and really getting quality content from their DLCs.
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josifrees
01/18/18 8:51:59 AM
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The only problem with battlefield season passes and dlc is you are pay a lot and then they keep having dirt cheap sales for it.
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Foppe
01/18/18 8:53:42 AM
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Yes, people have been lacking common sense for years now.
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DevsBro
01/18/18 8:58:01 AM
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Season pass! Includes:

Baseball hat
Baseball hat 2
Baseball hat 3
Baseball hat 4
Camo hat
Camo hat 2
Camo hat 3
American flag hat
Albanian flag hat
Algerian flag hat
Azerbaijan flag hat
Belgium flag hat
Belize flag hat
Bosnia flag hat
Bulgaria flag hat
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DevsBro
01/18/18 8:58:21 AM
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apocalyptic_4
01/18/18 9:32:28 AM
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I was tempted to get the season pass for fallout 4 and I'm glad I didn't.

I've been gaming for awhile and I've never bought a season pass I've always bought the DLC itself if I wanted it.

I'm glad to see season passes are dying off.
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pieisthebest
01/18/18 9:35:35 AM
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I can't justify buying a season pass even on a game I really liked, not sure how people justify doing it for every game that they play
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Vyrulisse
01/18/18 9:40:56 AM
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pieisthebest posted...
I can't justify buying a season pass even on a game I really liked, not sure how people justify doing it for every game that they play

Well I would have anyway for Fallout 4 because I heavily mod Bethesda games and if you don't have all the DLC chances are you'll be left out of a lot of mods.
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Foppe
01/18/18 10:12:00 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?
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apocalyptic_4
01/18/18 10:14:43 AM
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Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.
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Foppe
01/18/18 10:18:46 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.

Whats wrong with it?
They give you a set of DLC cheaper, nothing more, nothing less.
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 10:20:09 AM
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Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.

Whats wrong with it?
They give you a set of DLC cheaper, nothing more, nothing less.


My OP refers to season passes being offered when the contents are still unknown.
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Foppe
01/18/18 10:22:49 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.

Whats wrong with it?
They give you a set of DLC cheaper, nothing more, nothing less.


My OP refers to season passes being offered when the contents are still unknown.

So whats wrong with Season Passes are that people cant wait with buying it until they know whats in it?
Sounds like a user error.
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Questionmarktarius
01/18/18 10:40:10 AM
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Can't "season passes" still be bought long after the "season" already happened?
I definitely recall doing so for some Lego Batman game after it got cheap, and just left the console on overnight to download everything.
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DarthAragorn
01/18/18 10:42:19 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Can't "season passes" still be bought long after the "season" already happened?
I definitely recall doing so for some Lego Batman game after it got cheap, and just left the console on overnight to download everything.

Almost always yes
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AvantgardeAClue
01/18/18 10:49:54 AM
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Foppe posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.

Whats wrong with it?
They give you a set of DLC cheaper, nothing more, nothing less.


My OP refers to season passes being offered when the contents are still unknown.

So whats wrong with Season Passes are that people cant wait with buying it until they know whats in it?
Sounds like a user error.


These companies push season passes without explaining what's in them and the clueless people eat it up, therefore they continue to do it
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Foppe
01/18/18 11:08:07 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Foppe posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Foppe posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
I'm glad to see season passes are dying off

Being able to buy multiple DLC cheaper is bad?


The way it's being handled now yes.

Whats wrong with it?
They give you a set of DLC cheaper, nothing more, nothing less.


My OP refers to season passes being offered when the contents are still unknown.

So whats wrong with Season Passes are that people cant wait with buying it until they know whats in it?
Sounds like a user error.


These companies push season passes without explaining what's in them and the clueless people eat it up, therefore they continue to do it

Sounds like a user error, not something wrong with Season Passes.
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Romulox28
01/18/18 11:11:14 AM
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it all started to go downhill when people began paying for map packs
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Questionmarktarius
01/18/18 11:12:04 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
it all started to go downhill when console gamers started buying map packs

Those have existed since the 80s, for PC games.
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Foppe
01/18/18 11:32:17 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
it all started to go downhill when people began paying for map packs

So since the PS2 Socom map packs then?
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