Poll of the Day > Which is worse for you, drinking soda or smoking cigarettes?

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Ben111
01/18/18 9:09:44 PM
#101:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Ben111 posted...
If you think phosphoric acid is not an issue than you are wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid

Phosphates are essential for life.


The only mention of harm is at 85% weight, which coke decidedly isn't.

Ben111 posted...
Not to mention the fact that hfcs can lead to no alcholic fatty liver disease.

You mean high fructose corn syrup? A fucking sugar, the worst of the bunch, I already called out? It's also not an essential component of soda.

Ben111 posted...
And artifical sweetners arent any better.

You mean the same artificial sweeteners that repeatedly get scare-mongering, research, then debunked? You know, the ones still in sale despite all the unfounded complaints? Or some unknown ones because artificial sweeteners are a vast category?

Ben111 posted...
Soda is literally just all negatives

It's literally not, much like red meat isn't all negatives. God you're sensationalist. You do realise you're comparing this to cigarettes, burning rat poison and other shit you're expected to inhale?

Phosphoric acid is certainly not necessary for life while still being terrible for teeth and soda still has no nutitional value
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Kyuubi4269
01/18/18 9:19:28 PM
#102:


Ben111 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Ben111 posted...
If you think phosphoric acid is not an issue than you are wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid

Phosphates are essential for life.


The only mention of harm is at 85% weight, which coke decidedly isn't.

Ben111 posted...
Not to mention the fact that hfcs can lead to no alcholic fatty liver disease.

You mean high fructose corn syrup? A fucking sugar, the worst of the bunch, I already called out? It's also not an essential component of soda.

Ben111 posted...
And artifical sweetners arent any better.

You mean the same artificial sweeteners that repeatedly get scare-mongering, research, then debunked? You know, the ones still in sale despite all the unfounded complaints? Or some unknown ones because artificial sweeteners are a vast category?

Ben111 posted...
Soda is literally just all negatives

It's literally not, much like red meat isn't all negatives. God you're sensationalist. You do realise you're comparing this to cigarettes, burning rat poison and other shit you're expected to inhale?

Phosphoric acid is certainly not necessary for life while still being terrible for teeth and soda still has no nutitional value

Citation needed.

Unlike mine.

I know you don't like to follow research and would rather chase wives tales but I think even you would recognise the advantage of a nutrition-free water product with flavour when there is an issue of dehydration in the population.
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Mead
01/18/18 9:20:35 PM
#103:


Ben111 posted...
Sorry but I dont know what homeopathy is


Seems to be true of most things not just homeopathy
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Krazy_Kirby
01/19/18 1:24:26 AM
#104:


Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Ben111 posted...
Mead posted...
Ben111 posted...
You do know that in some instances getting the vaccine causes the disease


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/tools/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html

What are you trying do say? I don't have time to read propaganda

But he read your propaganda...

You dont seem to know the differnce between facts and propaganda like I do


yep, either a troll or a fucking i****
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solid_kush
01/19/18 1:30:08 AM
#105:


Soda is dumb, but cigarettes are even more dumb.
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SilverClock
01/19/18 1:47:34 AM
#106:


Umm...whoever was arguing about it, soda is bad for your health. That's proven fact. It's just an issue of quantifying to what extent the soda has already affected you, no matter how small. Water is obviously the healthier alternative, which I don't believe anyone would argue with, but I've been proven wrong before lol. A lot of the health problems I see in older folks are a result of the same bad habits that have been repeated for decades. As far as what affects you more adversely, the cigarettes do. Easily.
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Mead
01/19/18 1:54:28 AM
#107:


Literally no one in this topic has made the claim that soda is healthy.
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JanwayDaahl
01/19/18 2:18:32 AM
#108:


Cigs hands down. The type of diseased lungs I've seen in my rotations due to smoking have scared me.
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Metal_Mario99
01/19/18 2:25:36 AM
#109:


SilverClock posted...
Water is obviously the healthier alternative

Too bad it doesn't taste good.
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Ben111
01/19/18 9:46:33 AM
#110:


Metal_Mario99 posted...
SilverClock posted...
Water is obviously the healthier alternative

Too bad it doesn't taste good.

Water has the GOAT taste for drinks. Nothing is more satisfying than drinking water when dehydrated
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Babbit55
01/19/18 9:58:53 AM
#111:


Ben111 posted...
Just because you can't drink a soda with dying doesn't mean others can't. I do other things to take care of myself. If I want to exercise and keep in shape, but also drinks sodas, I'll do that. So don't about my health like you know anything about me. Not like I'd take health advice from you. You don't use vaccines, nor do you trust doctors. Not all of them are honest, but I'd trust someone who learned about medicine before listening to a guy who maybe has read an outdated/debunked article online.

Yeah and I would never take advice from someone who thinks that even drinking a drop of soda is in any way ok. I know that by drinking soda your investment in your health is minimal. Also I am assuming you have never read a vaccine insert sheet based on how misinformed you are


Please watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuLQ2GDVOHA


Vaccinations are important, we have removed deadly diseases because of them. Vaccines are a HELL of a lot safer than not taking them (and they most certainly do not cause Autism). When you do not vaccinate you put others with immunity problems at risk and people who cannot have vaccines at risk as you reduce herd immunity, people like you actually caused a measles outbreak to be significantly worse too!
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EvilMegas
01/19/18 10:20:17 AM
#112:


Drinking soda isnt 2nd hand harmful
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Ben111
01/19/18 10:26:24 AM
#113:


@Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Just because you can't drink a soda with dying doesn't mean others can't. I do other things to take care of myself. If I want to exercise and keep in shape, but also drinks sodas, I'll do that. So don't about my health like you know anything about me. Not like I'd take health advice from you. You don't use vaccines, nor do you trust doctors. Not all of them are honest, but I'd trust someone who learned about medicine before listening to a guy who maybe has read an outdated/debunked article online.

Yeah and I would never take advice from someone who thinks that even drinking a drop of soda is in any way ok. I know that by drinking soda your investment in your health is minimal. Also I am assuming you have never read a vaccine insert sheet based on how misinformed you are


Please watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuLQ2GDVOHA


Vaccinations are important, we have removed deadly diseases because of them. Vaccines are a HELL of a lot safer than not taking them (and they most certainly do not cause Autism). When you do not vaccinate you put others with immunity problems at risk and people who cannot have vaccines at risk as you reduce herd immunity, people like you actually caused a measles outbreak in the US!

Omg like I care about your propaganda . I have heared enough of your fear mongering. You guys caused the measles out break even though the more people that caught the disease were confirmed to be vaccinated for it compared to not. Herd immunity is a myth that has debunked by the basic fact that outbreaks have happened in populations with a vaccination rate well above the so called herd immunity rate. You say vaccinated people arent safe but I feel very safe. I havent gotten sick in two years and I always feel energetic. Sorry but I will not listen to your lies just as you wont listen to my truths. We both think the other is crazy and I dont think anything will change that. The reason I was not vaccinated(thankfully) is because one of my moms friends child had a severe reaction to a vaccine. That led to her doing a lot of research and she was disgusted by the ingredients as well as what some people experienced with them. She didnt refuse them because she want me to catch a bunch of diseases. She did it because she wanted to protect me. Just as all anti-vaccinaters want to protect themselves and those they care about
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Babbit55
01/19/18 10:45:05 AM
#114:


Ben111 posted...
Omg like I care about your propaganda . I have heared enough of your fear mongering. You guys caused the measles out break even though the more people that caught the disease were confirmed to be vaccinated for it compared to not. Herd immunity is a myth that has debunked by the basic fact that outbreaks have happened in populations with a vaccination rate well above the so called herd immunity rate. You say vaccinated people arent safe but I feel very safe. I havent gotten sick in two years and I always feel energetic. Sorry but I will not listen to your lies just as you wont listen to my truths. We both think the other is crazy and I dont think anything will change that. The reason I was not vaccinated(thankfully) is because one of my moms friends child had a severe reaction to a vaccine. That led to her doing a lot of research and she was disgusted by the ingredients as well as what some people experienced with them. She didnt refuse them because she want me to catch a bunch of diseases. She did it because she wanted to protect me. Just as all anti-vaccinaters want to protect themselves and those they care about


Do you have a degree in medical science? Are you an immunologist or pharmacist? If all those is No, then frankly the "research" you have done is nothing but reading people opinions and declared them as fact.

You are too small a test bed for a scientific conclusion.

Before a vaccine is distributed it is tested incredibly thoroughly and is MUCH safer than not being vaccinated. I bet most the chemicals within a vaccine also occur naturally within foods, even some metals.

If you are going to "research" the subject, use peer reviewed science texts that are tested and verified, not someones mums cousins brothers friend's, mate at the pub said "science".

I am not sure which "community" is more ill informed, Anti-Vax or Flat earth, I do know which one is more dangerous and harmful though
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Ben111
01/19/18 10:56:35 AM
#115:


@Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Omg like I care about your propaganda . I have heared enough of your fear mongering. You guys caused the measles out break even though the more people that caught the disease were confirmed to be vaccinated for it compared to not. Herd immunity is a myth that has debunked by the basic fact that outbreaks have happened in populations with a vaccination rate well above the so called herd immunity rate. You say vaccinated people arent safe but I feel very safe. I havent gotten sick in two years and I always feel energetic. Sorry but I will not listen to your lies just as you wont listen to my truths. We both think the other is crazy and I dont think anything will change that. The reason I was not vaccinated(thankfully) is because one of my moms friends child had a severe reaction to a vaccine. That led to her doing a lot of research and she was disgusted by the ingredients as well as what some people experienced with them. She didnt refuse them because she want me to catch a bunch of diseases. She did it because she wanted to protect me. Just as all anti-vaccinaters want to protect themselves and those they care about


Do you have a degree in medical science? Are you an immunologist or pharmacist? If all those is No, then frankly the "research" you have done is nothing but reading people opinions and declared them as fact.

You are too small a test bed for a scientific conclusion.

Before a vaccine is distributed it is tested incredibly thoroughly and is MUCH safer than not being vaccinated. I bet most the chemicals within a vaccine also occur naturally within foods, even some metals.

If you are going to "research" the subject, use peer reviewed science texts that are tested and verified, not someones mums cousins brothers friend's, mate at the pub said "science".

I am not sure which "community" is more ill informed, Anti-Vax or Flat earth, I do know which one is more dangerous and harmful though

Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter
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SythisTaru
01/19/18 11:06:18 AM
#116:


Lol, how is soda unhealthy? It's just carbonated water with a small amount (2-3%) flavoring.
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Babbit55
01/19/18 11:11:22 AM
#117:


Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......
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Ben111
01/19/18 11:12:26 AM
#118:


SythisTaru posted...
Lol, how is soda unhealthy? It's just carbonated water with a small amount (2-3%) flavoring.

Carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, caramel color, phosphoric acid, natural flavors, and caffeine is not nothing
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Ben111
01/19/18 11:15:04 AM
#119:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field
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Babbit55
01/19/18 11:27:14 AM
#120:


Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.
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Ben111
01/19/18 11:31:22 AM
#121:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been handicapped or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous
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Babbit55
01/19/18 11:34:51 AM
#122:


Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been disabled or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous


Did I say they all lied? No. Did I say they publish they have side effects and list % and that those % mean it can (and has happened)? Yes. Does this mean of the BILLIONS of people vaccinated, yet less than 1% have issues. How many people without the Vaccine that die from Smallpox? 65%.

Also before you say "But noone catches Small pox anymore!" Why is that?
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OmegaTomHank
01/19/18 11:40:00 AM
#123:


Soda is a little bad for your brain as it spikes your blood sugar but its not even close to cigarettes.

Caffeine can also be helpful in fighting off fatigue related stress which is just as bad and probably way worse for you than a soda
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Ben111
01/19/18 11:44:51 AM
#124:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been disabled or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous


Did I say they all lied? No. Did I say they publish they have side effects and list % and that those % mean it can (and has happened)? Yes. Does this mean of the BILLIONS of people vaccinated, yet less than 1% have issues. How many people without the Vaccine that die from Smallpox? 65%.

Also before you say "But noone catches Small pox anymore!" Why is that?

No one has small pox because we greatly improved our sanitation. Same with polio
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Babbit55
01/19/18 11:52:17 AM
#125:


Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been disabled or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous


Did I say they all lied? No. Did I say they publish they have side effects and list % and that those % mean it can (and has happened)? Yes. Does this mean of the BILLIONS of people vaccinated, yet less than 1% have issues. How many people without the Vaccine that die from Smallpox? 65%.

Also before you say "But noone catches Small pox anymore!" Why is that?

No one has small pox because we greatly improved our sanitation. Same with polio


Lets pretend that the discovery of Cow Pox giving immunity to Small Pox and the discovery of the vaccine has nothing to do with it right?

Oh wait no, Vaccines is the sole reason both Polio and Small pox is such a small disease now.
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solid_kush
01/19/18 11:55:32 AM
#126:


Ben111 posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
SilverClock posted...
Water is obviously the healthier alternative

Too bad it doesn't taste good.

Water has the GOAT taste for drinks. Nothing is more satisfying than drinking water when dehydrated


lol water not tasting good?

Do you only drink tap water or what?
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Babbit55
01/19/18 11:57:59 AM
#127:


Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Yeah sorry but I believe
People who were actually harmed by the vaccines > corrupt people who make money off the vaccines
Who is more likely to lie? The person whos family was permanently hurt or the big organizations who want your money?
Like I said before, we both think the other person is crazy and dangerous and we will probably never change our minds on the matter


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been disabled or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous


Did I say they all lied? No. Did I say they publish they have side effects and list % and that those % mean it can (and has happened)? Yes. Does this mean of the BILLIONS of people vaccinated, yet less than 1% have issues. How many people without the Vaccine that die from Smallpox? 65%.

Also before you say "But noone catches Small pox anymore!" Why is that?

No one has small pox because we greatly improved our sanitation. Same with polio


You also didn't answer my point on why billions of people who have the vaccines have no side effects. Surely if they were so dangerous and so like to cause issue, more would come forward right?
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Ben111
01/19/18 12:01:11 PM
#128:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
Babbit55 posted...


Well, why not spend the years training in it so you understand the full science behind it, run your own scientific tests and expose that evil science community.....

Or you know, if vaccines really did all this damage all the time it might actually be big news and not just a very small % of people affected, kind of like how they say there is a chance of these things happening as a small %.......

You still havent answered my question. Who is more likely to lie?
Also the government/doctors are very good at covering up any damage vaccines might do. Also I kind if have itger aditions for a carear and no way would I work in a field as corrupt as the medical field


Honestly? People with an agenda wanting to prove there movement. If caught lying about side effects on a vaccine would cause a multi BILLION dollar class action lawsuit.

So no, the ones pushing vaccines are a lot less likely to lie or under exaggerate issues, because doing so would finish there business. Also the WHO who dissect it and rip them to shreds if they lied about things.

So people whose children have been disabled or died from very severe reactions to vaccines(yes it has happened) are less trustworthy then big corporations who like $? I guess I jut arrived in crazy town
You people will believe anything a big organization tells you no matter how ridiculous


Did I say they all lied? No. Did I say they publish they have side effects and list % and that those % mean it can (and has happened)? Yes. Does this mean of the BILLIONS of people vaccinated, yet less than 1% have issues. How many people without the Vaccine that die from Smallpox? 65%.

Also before you say "But noone catches Small pox anymore!" Why is that?

No one has small pox because we greatly improved our sanitation. Same with polio


Lets pretend that the discovery of Cow Pox giving immunity to Small Pox and the discovery of the vaccine has nothing to do with it right?

Oh wait no, Vaccines is the sole reason both Polio and Small pox is such a small disease now.

There are a variety of statistics that disprove your point
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01/19/18 12:02:16 PM
#129:


People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol
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Ben111
01/19/18 12:03:45 PM
#130:


solid_kush posted...
People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol

People who blindly listen to propaganda and refuse to listen to reason are the dumb ones
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01/19/18 12:04:34 PM
#131:


Ben do you have a girlfriend? I hope you never reproduce
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solid_kush
01/19/18 12:05:21 PM
#132:


Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol

People who blindly listen to propaganda and refuse to listen to reason are the dumb ones


I dont think you understand what propaganda actually means though.
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Ben111
01/19/18 12:09:51 PM
#133:


solid_kush posted...
Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol

People who blindly listen to propaganda and refuse to listen to reason are the dumb ones


I dont think you understand what propaganda actually means though.

I know that the fear mongering you listen to is propaganda
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Rockies
01/19/18 12:15:05 PM
#134:


Ben111 posted...
I listen to fear mongering


We know, dude, you don't have to tell us.
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solid_kush
01/19/18 12:15:20 PM
#135:


Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol

People who blindly listen to propaganda and refuse to listen to reason are the dumb ones


I dont think you understand what propaganda actually means though.

I know that the fear mongering you listen to is propaganda


But arent you actually doing the fear mongering by trying to paint getting vaccines as dangerous when theyre actually a lot safer for all of us?
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Ben111
01/19/18 12:48:54 PM
#136:


solid_kush posted...
Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
Ben111 posted...
solid_kush posted...
People that are against vaccines = Flat earthers.

These dumbasses dont listen to logic or reason. A bunch of Alex Jones fanatics. lol

People who blindly listen to propaganda and refuse to listen to reason are the dumb ones


I dont think you understand what propaganda actually means though.

I know that the fear mongering you listen to is propaganda


But arent you actually doing the fear mongering by trying to paint getting vaccines as dangerous when theyre actually a lot safer for all of us?

No because what I am saying is true that vaccines can have serious side effects. People saying get the vaccine or you will die of the big scary measles is fear mongering.
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01/19/18 12:49:00 PM
#137:


So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?
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01/19/18 12:51:29 PM
#138:


LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines
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01/19/18 12:53:26 PM
#139:


Something sounds science-y that means you can't ingest it! Can you believe they get away with putting dihydrogen monoxide in our children's juices?
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01/19/18 1:18:23 PM
#140:


Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?
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01/19/18 1:37:14 PM
#141:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.
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LinkPizza
01/19/18 1:49:05 PM
#142:


solid_kush posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.
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Ogurisama
01/19/18 2:22:03 PM
#143:


LinkPizza posted...

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.

I would bet more people get food poisoning from McDonald's each year then bad reactions from vaccines
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01/19/18 3:47:49 PM
#144:


LinkPizza posted...
solid_kush posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.

This. Also on a similar note the rise of vaccines has a direct correlation with the rise of allergies . Also not saying they are directly connected(because you guys always get super defensive about it) but autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.
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01/19/18 3:53:03 PM
#145:


Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
solid_kush posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.

This. Also on a similar note the rise of vaccines has a direct correlation with the rise of allergies . Also not saying they are directly connected(because you guys always get super defensive about it) but autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.

That could be because of the rise of people jot taking vaccines. Did you know that a woman who has German measles when pregnant and giving birth can be the reason a child in born with autism? And did you know those could be prevented by vaccines?
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wolfy42
01/19/18 3:53:36 PM
#146:


There are instances where soda could indeed be healthy, that is never the case with cigarettes.

How you ask?

Simple, you are dying of thirst, have searched anywhere for drinkable water and can find none. If you don't drink something within the next few hours your toast.

You find some Soda.

In such an instance your choice is to drink the soda, or die.

Soda is therefore, healthy for you.

Yes, this is only the case in extreme circumstances, but it is a possibility.

Meanwhile smoking a cig, might let you do a stealth mission (Metal gear), or start a fire (tons of movies), but it won't ever save your life, or make you more healthy over all.

Although.......

What if there was poisonous gas in the air, and the only way for you to breathe it was through a cig filter?....nah...there would always be a better way, and you can't breathe the smoke anyway, so it wouldn't count.

So yeah, Soda has to potential to be healthy, it is just not healthy compared to water, or if you drink it on a regular basis.

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Rockies
01/19/18 3:58:37 PM
#147:


Ben111 posted...
autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.


Or we have better diagnoses and reclassifications that put disorders on the autism spectrum which previously weren't
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LinkPizza
01/19/18 4:00:17 PM
#148:


Rockies posted...
Ben111 posted...
autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.


Or we have better diagnoses and reclassifications that put disorders on the autism spectrum which previously weren't

That's true. A long time ago, they would that the kid was weird. Or blame it on something else. We actually know what it is now.
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Babbit55
01/19/18 4:05:01 PM
#149:


Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
solid_kush posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.

This. Also on a similar note the rise of vaccines has a direct correlation with the rise of allergies . Also not saying they are directly connected(because you guys always get super defensive about it) but autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.

Again with avoiding the question.... also there is no link to autism, beyond a total debunked paper by a totally discredited doctor who literally did that paper to directly profit! And they lie has done more harm to discovering and assisting autism than anything else!

Odd that as we get better at noticing and testing for things that we see them go up....
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01/19/18 4:16:10 PM
#150:


Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
solid_kush posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Ben111 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
So, you know only one person who had a severe reaction, so all vaccines are bad now? Are you serious?

No there are a lot of people that have had reactions, that along with the variety of questionable ingredients and buisness practices the industry has preformed make me more than a little warry of vaccines


You have still avoided answering why only a small % of the billions that have had vaccines had issues, if it was as dangerous as you say, billions would have come forward with them, why is this not the case?


I have a huge family and all are vaccinated, none have got these dangerous reactions this guy speaks of. The percentage is so small of getting an adverse reactions, like medications and food people react differently to them. Like some people are allergic to peanuts, should we all rally against peanuts because only a few people are allergic to them? Thats ridiculous.

More people are probably allergic to peanuts than people who have adverse reactions to vaccines. Same with most allergies. Like shellfish and eggs.

This. Also on a similar note the rise of vaccines has a direct correlation with the rise of allergies . Also not saying they are directly connected(because you guys always get super defensive about it) but autism rates rising from 1/10,000 to 1/34(for males at least) in just a few decades is way too suspicious for my tastes.

Again with avoiding the question.... also there is no link to autism, beyond a total debunked paper by a totally discredited doctor who literally did that paper to directly profit! And they lie has done more harm to discovering and assisting autism than anything else!

Odd that as we get better at noticing and testing for things that we see them go up....

So what plenty of philosophers were discredited for revealing the truth. Like that one guy who said we revolve around the sun and the earth is not the center of the universe. Also if you think alunimum and mercury being injected into your bloodstream does not effect your brain at all
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