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Nelson_Mandela
01/29/18 7:20:10 PM
#301:


TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Detroit wins that trade


If Blake stays healthy.

If we're getting him for only 50-60 games a year then we're saddled with a pretty bad contract.

They can probably manage his minutes better than the clippers have. Pistons are a legit playoff team now I think.
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ninkendo
01/29/18 7:21:05 PM
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ExThaNemesis
01/29/18 7:27:02 PM
#303:


I feel like Blake is the most underwhelming player in comparison to his physical talents. He should've been dominant and all he is is just like, pretty good.
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 7:30:52 PM
#304:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I feel like Blake is the most underwhelming player in comparison to his physical talents. He should've been dominant and all he is is just like, pretty good.


At his absolute peak he was averaging roughly 24 points, 10 rebounds and 4 assists.

Among active players, he currently ranks 9th in WS/48 among qualified players.

He's had a pretty good career.
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ShatteredElysium
01/29/18 7:31:46 PM
#305:


I feel like Aaron Gordon is basically a younger Blake Griffin without the injuries. Not as talented yet but has age on his side

Granted I'm biased
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LeonhartFour
01/29/18 7:32:48 PM
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ExThaNemesis
01/29/18 7:33:05 PM
#307:


TheRock1525 posted...
At his absolute peak he was averaging roughly 24 points, 10 rebounds and 4 assists.

Among active players, he currently ranks 9th in WS/48 among qualified players.

He's had a pretty good career.


I guess I was more-so expecting LeBron-lite out of him.
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 7:33:28 PM
#308:


ShatteredElysium posted...
I feel like Aaron Gordon is basically a younger Blake Griffin without the injuries. Not as talented yet but has age on his side

Granted I'm biased


Not nearly the passer nor as efficient scoring (lower FT rate, too). Can't comment too much on his defense.
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LiquidOshawott
01/29/18 7:37:12 PM
#309:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I feel like Blake is the most underwhelming player in comparison to his physical talents. He should've been dominant and all he is is just like, pretty good.


He's injured a lot but tbh there's just so much talent swimming in the league right now. I swear every year there's always talks about the next Michael Jordan or LeBron

I wonder if the Pistons just let Blake play Point Forward until Reggie comes back, should be able to at the very least help facilitate the offense
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 7:38:33 PM
#310:


I believe between Drummond and Griffin, you've got two guys that average a combined 9.2 assists per game.
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transcience
01/29/18 8:00:14 PM
#311:


I don't feel like either team is better?

well, Detroit is in the east. they could do well up front. we'll see about 2022 though
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transcience
01/29/18 8:01:26 PM
#312:


man, the one thing I've always wanted to see is Blake play the 5 and they traded him to like the only team with a legit 5
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MZero11
01/29/18 8:02:56 PM
#313:


LeonhartFour posted...
Is Griffin a Hall of Famer?


Easily

if only because the basketball hall of fame is exceptionally easy to get into
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 8:05:03 PM
#314:


transcience posted...
I don't feel like either team is better?


Expect the Pistons to receive a post-Josh Smith bump by not letting Avery Bradley hoist 17 shots a game.

Like who in that deal is super integral to the Pistons that they're losing?
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CherryCokes
01/29/18 8:09:34 PM
#315:


Pistons seem like they should contend for the playoffs consistently now. They're probably not even dead this year, given the bottom of the east.
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transcience
01/29/18 8:14:43 PM
#316:


if Griffin stays healthy, yeah. they're only a few games out though. I wonder who would drop out -- maybe Indiana.
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 8:24:30 PM
#317:


And if Griffin can't stay healthy, we'll crash and burn in the bottom of the East using what will be know as the alt-Process.
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transience
01/29/18 8:27:43 PM
#318:


man I just looked at those contracts Detroit gave up

Clippers gonna have some cap space. I need someone to write this up and explain to me just how much because maybe Lebron and PG to the Clippers instead of the Lakers is a thing
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KCF0107
01/29/18 8:57:25 PM
#319:


Yeah, I read that the Clippers only guaranteed contract for the 19-20 season will be Gallinari, but I guess they do have a bunch coming off the books this season when Jordan opts out if he somehow isn't traded
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LiquidOshawott
01/29/18 9:09:16 PM
#320:


The whole trying to get DeAndre Jordan to stay in LA thing from a few years back is pretty funny now that he's the last one left from that recruitment other than Rivers/Ballmer
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transience
01/29/18 9:22:01 PM
#321:


Gallo contract is going to look real bad looking back (even though I like him a lot when he's healthy)

I feel like the options are dwindling, though - DMC getting hurt sure doesn't help.
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SpikeDragon
01/29/18 9:44:16 PM
#322:


Why am I not surprised that Rivers is last man standing apart from DJ
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ninkendo
01/29/18 9:54:48 PM
#323:


the first round pick is top 3 protected

can pistons tank their way to a #3 pick with Blake Griffin on the roster?!
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 9:55:17 PM
#324:


I heard top 4 protected.
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TheRock1525
01/29/18 10:11:43 PM
#325:


I forgot we retired Rip Hamilton's jersey so Blake's gonna need to pick a new number.
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transience
01/29/18 11:15:26 PM
#326:


I think I'm with Lowe on this one: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22258759/zach-lowe-blake-griffin-trade-future-la-clippers-detroit-pistons

basically, the trade is double-edged for both teams, but a pretty decent move for everyone to make. I like the Clippers side more. I think Blake will look good up front but we'll see in a year if people are feeling positive about it.
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Dr_Football
01/30/18 1:29:55 AM
#327:


In college Blake wore 23 (his brother wore 32 and he asked Wayman Tisdale's permission to wear the number) so Im guessing he'll switch back to that
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 1:36:42 AM
#328:


My general feeling is that I'll take mediocrity for a while because Jesus Christ the alternative has sucked.

If this team maxes out at 47-52 wins for 3-4 season, so? Since 2009 we've had the 5th worst winning percentage in the league. At some point you may as well take a shot at high risk/high reward type moves.
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Blackscar
01/30/18 4:54:02 AM
#329:


I think it's obvious what Ballmer is doing: He's moving the team to Seattle so they can have a team there again. (Ballmer's main residence is still Hunts Point, Washington)

Plus Ballmer was born in Detroit so he also did his birthplace a favor. Los Angeles doesn't really need two NBA teams.
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Blackscar
01/30/18 5:16:27 AM
#330:


https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/23/heisler-steve-ballmer-at-crossroads-is-clippers-future-in-l-a/

Liar liar pants on fire Steve! Maybe he did "try" to make the Clippers work in L.A. after all they did do that snatch DeAndre from Mark deal.

But now after CP left and their playoff chances are slim, I think he's finally come to his senses now and is seizing the moment to move the team. That Inglewood deal was just a distraction. No one but the most die hard Clippers fans will be bitter about him moving the team. He'll probably want to retire the Clippers brand and start using Sonics or Supersonics again too.

You could even say he was trolling the fan base with that awful logo redesign. Subconsciously or intentionally he made the Clippers more of a joke in LA so they'll have more excuses to move to Seattle.
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Blackscar
01/30/18 5:30:53 AM
#331:


https://www.sonicsrising.com/2018/1/16/16894790/steve-ballmer-david-stern-talk-prospects-seattle-sonics-nba-return

Here is Steve lying again about taking a haircut if he moves the Clippers to Seattle. Who does he think he's fooling. The man is a bald faced liar.
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 11:38:45 AM
#332:


Last night I convinced myself the Thunder needed to pull off a deal for Lou Williams and Avery Bradley both, and now I will be so disappointed if it doesn't happen. When. When it doesn't happen.
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 11:58:06 AM
#333:


John Wall out two months and Detroit pursing a Rodney Hood deal.
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 11:58:43 AM
#334:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Last night I convinced myself the Thunder needed to pull off a deal for Lou Williams and Avery Bradley both, and now I will be so disappointed if it doesn't happen. When. When it doesn't happen.


Be thankful they didn't get Bradley.
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CherryCokes
01/30/18 11:59:38 AM
#335:


https://twitter.com/daadvaims/status/958192760988884992

this is art
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 12:18:56 PM
#336:


CherryCokes posted...
https://twitter.com/daadvaims/status/958192760988884992

this is art


ahahahahahaha this is wonderful
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 12:21:25 PM
#337:


TheRock1525 posted...
Be thankful they didn't get Bradley.


I want him for his defense. His offense is honestly not needed, and still cannot possibly be worse than Roberson's.
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 12:49:26 PM
#338:


His defense isn't that good. He gets burnt a lot thanks to overly-aggressive play. It's why advanced defensive metrics never liked him (rating him about the same as the guy he replaced, KCP).
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 1:12:29 PM
#339:


Again that's with Not Really Elite Defense around him.

His ISO defense is all I care about, because if he forces the guy he's on to pass it away, that opens up Russ and George to get into passing lanes and create problems.
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transience
01/30/18 1:21:21 PM
#340:


Bradley would be fine with OKC since they're already an elite defensive team. they'd be better with a better shooter, but then, I really wonder about Russ's ability to get others involved.
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 1:47:53 PM
#341:


transience posted...
Bradley would be fine with OKC since they're already an elite defensive team. they'd be better with a better shooter, but then, I really wonder about Russ's ability to get others involved.


the shooter would be better off as the cornerstone of the second team. Lou would be amazing spear heading that and helping out with the starters as a great 6-man.

Bradley would be to fill the defensive hole that Roberson leaves.

Make it happennnnnn please
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LiquidOshawott
01/30/18 2:41:20 PM
#342:


Wait nevermind the Mirotic deal is dead >_>
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 2:56:29 PM
#343:


Man, the Pistons aren't going to have anyone tonight against the Cavs.

That being said they have a pretty soft schedule after this:

Memphis
Miami
Portland
Brooklyn
LAC
@ Atlanta
New Orleans
Atlanta

I guess if they're gonna make any run for the playoffs they gotta win probably 6 of those games?
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CherryCokes
01/30/18 5:14:02 PM
#344:


I could see them losing to Miami and Portland but winning the rest
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LiquidOshawott
01/30/18 7:09:07 PM
#345:


Hey Rock you dont have to be mad now, Drummonds an all star now cause Wall chose to get surgery
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TheRock1525
01/30/18 7:14:53 PM
#346:


Yeah, happy for Drummond but that sucks a lot for Wall.
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LeonhartFour
01/30/18 9:13:58 PM
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ExThaNemesis
01/30/18 9:52:30 PM
#348:


smh

lose to the Wizards without John Wall.

no Roberson really really hurts. We desperately need to make a move.
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LeonhartFour
01/30/18 9:53:18 PM
#349:


The Wizards play better against good teams for whatever the reason
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transience
01/30/18 9:56:10 PM
#350:


Harden is killing it
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