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solosnake 01/12/18 7:40:03 PM #1:	Is it transphobia if you refuse to date someone because they are trans? I believe it is transphobic I dont think its transphobic, just preference View Results http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42652947 One of the housemates is India Willoughby, a TV journalist who had an established career as a man before transitioning to become a woman. Willoughby asked her housemates about their dating preferences, and the resulting conversation kicked off a social media storm. "Would you go out with a transsexual woman?" she queried. "I believe it's your choice... I would choose not to," replied the R'n'B singer Ginuwine. "That doesn't make me scared." "You would go out with a woman?" Willoughby asked. "Yes." "But you wouldn't go out with a transsexual woman?" "No." The conversation rumbled on. When Willoughby suggested "Let's have a kiss," Ginuwine replied "no" and leaned away from her. Dr Liadh Timmins, who specialises in sexual orientation and gender identity at King's College London, describes the comments as "transphobic". "Sexual attraction is a response to stimuli - that can be based on any number of things for example waist to hip ratio, certain behaviours, or breast size," Dr Timmins says. "If you have a trans woman who transitions very early on, she may be physically identical to a cis woman at a surface level." "There are hormonal sweet spots where trans women can transition and be effectively indistinguishable at a certain level from cisgender women," Dr Timmins says. "So being unwilling to date on the basis of someone being trans, rather than on the basis of individual stimuli is something I would personally call transphobic." What do you think? Is it transphobic if you refuse to date a trans woman? --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:893932404] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote> Is it transphobia if you refuse to date someone because they are trans? I believe it is transphobic I dont think its transphobic, just preference View Results http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42652947 <quote>One of the housemates is India Willoughby, a TV journalist who had an established career as a man before transitioning to become a woman. Willoughby asked her housemates about their dating preferences, and the resulting conversation kicked off a social media storm. "Would you go out with a transsexual woman?" she queried. "I believe it's your choice... I would choose not to," replied the R'n'B singer Ginuwine. "That doesn't make me scared." "You would go out with a woman?" Willoughby asked. "Yes." "But you wouldn't go out with a transsexual woman?" "No." The conversation rumbled on. When Willoughby suggested "Let's have a kiss," Ginuwine replied "no" and leaned away from her.</quote> <quote>Dr Liadh Timmins, who specialises in sexual orientation and gender identity at King's College London, describes the comments as "transphobic". "Sexual attraction is a response to stimuli - that can be based on any number of things for example waist to hip ratio, certain behaviours, or breast size," Dr Timmins says. "If you have a trans woman who transitions very early on, she may be physically identical to a cis woman at a surface level." "There are hormonal sweet spots where trans women can transition and be effectively indistinguishable at a certain level from cisgender women," Dr Timmins says. "So being unwilling to date on the basis of someone being trans, rather than on the basis of individual stimuli is something I would personally call transphobic." </quote> What do you think? Is it transphobic if you refuse to date a trans woman?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 01/12/18 7:42:48 PM #2:	People are allowed to like what they like --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:893932552] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>People are allowed to like what they like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
7NATOR 01/12/18 7:43:10 PM #3:	no <cite>7NATOR posted [p:893932572] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
not_shawn_z 01/12/18 7:45:52 PM #4:	No, but there seems to be a (small) portion of the transgender/infinite genders movement that does think it is <cite>not_shawn_z posted [p:893932705] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>No, but there seems to be a (small) portion of the transgender/infinite genders movement that does think it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 01/12/18 7:46:48 PM #5:	Pretty soon it will be homophobic to not want to date other men. --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:893932759] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Pretty soon it will be homophobic to not want to date other men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/12/18 7:47:42 PM #6:	Turbam posted... People are allowed to like what they like This. You can't make people like you. They either do, or don't. Forcing people to be with those they don't want to is awful. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:893932801] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>People are allowed to like what they like</quote> This. You can't make people like you. They either do, or don't. Forcing people to be with those they don't want to is awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/12/18 7:47:45 PM #7:	Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:893932805] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 01/12/18 8:38:05 PM #9:	cjsdowg posted... Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo. It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:893935481] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo.</quote> It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 01/12/18 8:40:34 PM #10:	solosnake posted... cjsdowg posted... Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo. It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism? --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:893935632] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo.</quote> It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay</quote> It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 01/12/18 8:41:09 PM #11:	Funkydog posted... Turbam posted... People are allowed to like what they like This. You can't make people like you. They either do, or don't. Forcing people to be with those they don't want to is awful. --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:893935663] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>People are allowed to like what they like</quote> This. You can't make people like you. They either do, or don't. Forcing people to be with those they don't want to is awful.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 01/12/18 8:42:17 PM #12:	r4X0r posted... solosnake posted... cjsdowg posted... Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo. It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism? They were confused at which side they should have picked. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:893935716] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo.</quote> It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay</quote> It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism?</quote>They were confused at which side they should have picked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 01/12/18 8:47:07 PM #13:	not_shawn_z posted... No, but there seems to be a (small) portion of the transgender/infinite genders movement that does think it is --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:893935989] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>not_shawn_z posted...</cite> <quote>No, but there seems to be a (small) portion of the transgender/infinite genders movement that does think it is</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/12/18 8:47:37 PM #14:	Not in the slightest. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893936015] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Not in the slightest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 01/12/18 8:47:56 PM #15:	Turbam posted... People are allowed to like what they like --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:893936031] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>People are allowed to like what they like</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/12/18 8:48:47 PM #16:	r4X0r posted... solosnake posted... cjsdowg posted... Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo. It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism? Transgender women are obviously above black men on the pyramid of oppression. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893936084] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>solosnake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>Ginuwine was sexual harassed and people are acting like his victim was wronged. Ginuwine needs to join Metoo.</quote> It is borderline harassment, but he is a guy so its okay</quote> It was a white transgender harassing a black man, how the hell were the SJWs not up in arms over that blatant racism?</quote> Transgender women are obviously above black men on the pyramid of oppression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 01/12/18 8:52:54 PM #17:	No. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_V1kG6mRc <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:893936320] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/12/18 8:53:30 PM #18:	No. Respect cisheterosexuality. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:893936352] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>No. Respect cisheterosexuality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/12/18 8:54:16 PM #19:	You don't have to date anyone. O_o --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:893936403] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>You don't have to date anyone. O_o</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 01/12/18 8:59:30 PM #20:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... You don't have to date anyone. O_o That is offensive to all of humanity. --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:893936681] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>You don't have to date anyone. O_o</quote> That is offensive to all of humanity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 01/12/18 9:00:06 PM #21:	"You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:893936717] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>"You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 01/12/18 9:01:46 PM #22:	__aCEr__ posted... "You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available. Some people do drugs. Some people have penises. \_()_/ --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:893936800] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>__aCEr__ posted...</cite> <quote>"You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available.</quote> Some people do drugs. Some people have penises. \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNamekGod 01/12/18 9:03:37 PM #23:	Lol no way. --- Questlove, you not in the house. <cite>SuperNamekGod posted [p:893936893] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Lol no way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNamekGod 01/12/18 9:03:51 PM #24:	Eevee-Trainer posted... __aCEr__ posted... "You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available. Some people do drugs. Some people have penises. \_()_/ Yeah guys do. --- Questlove, you not in the house. <cite>SuperNamekGod posted [p:893936904] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eevee-Trainer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>__aCEr__ posted...</cite> <quote>"You wanted to have sex with them before you found out they had a penis." Well there are a lot of instances where someone will stop pursuing a person when new information becomes available.</quote> Some people do drugs. Some people have penises. \_()_/</quote> Yeah guys do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 01/12/18 9:04:03 PM #25:	Ehhhhhhhhh No. Not saying I wouldnt if I felt so compelled, but it wouldnt count in her favor --- ultimate milf hunter https://i.imgur.com/lCEdce6.gifv https://i.imgur.com/2N1Ezia.gifv https://i.imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ.jpg https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:893936919] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Ehhhhhhhhh No. Not saying I wouldnt if I felt so compelled, but it wouldnt count in her favor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 01/12/18 9:05:03 PM #26:	No. Just let dead dogs lie though and be polite. --- I am I - you are you. These are irrefutable truths. Possibly. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:893936972] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>No. Just let dead dogs lie though and be polite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 01/12/18 9:06:14 PM #27:	Havent seen this question on CE before --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:893937023] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Havent seen this question on CE before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 01/12/18 9:07:22 PM #28:	i wanna know who in the fuck said yes --- but Marxist theory is extremely consistent, both internally and with reality. -averagejeol <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:893937083] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>i wanna know who in the fuck said yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 01/12/18 9:08:18 PM #29:	When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:893937136] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNamekGod 01/12/18 9:08:24 PM #30:	FLUFFYGERM posted... i wanna know who in the fuck said yes trolls and probably a couple of trans mad that straight guys wouldn't want em --- Questlove, you not in the house. <cite>SuperNamekGod posted [p:893937140] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>i wanna know who in the fuck said yes</quote> trolls and probably a couple of trans mad that straight guys wouldn't want em</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNamekGod 01/12/18 9:08:49 PM #31:	Darklit_Minuet posted... When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter ok bud --- Questlove, you not in the house. <cite>SuperNamekGod posted [p:893937165] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter</quote> ok bud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sylph 01/12/18 9:09:38 PM #32:	I would agree that it is fine to not want to date anyone, that doesn't need more justification. You do start going down a different road when you start espousing things more complicated like it being gay and whatnot. You are responsible for putting down others. --- ZSB: We look so much better in a dress than you. I wouldn't mind being alone if I could stand my own company. <cite>Sylph posted [p:893937207] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>I would agree that it is fine to not want to date anyone, that doesn't need more justification. You do start going down a different road when you start espousing things more complicated like it being gay and whatnot. You are responsible for putting down others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 01/12/18 9:13:21 PM #33:	it is discriminatory but it is not transphobic that said, discrimination can be justifiable in certain instances. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:893937417] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>it is discriminatory but it is not transphobic that said, discrimination can be justifiable in certain instances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 01/12/18 9:13:35 PM #34:	Sylph posted... I would agree that it is fine to not want to date anyone, that doesn't need more justification. You do start going down a different road when you start espousing things more complicated like it being gay and whatnot. You are responsible for putting down others. If it's gay I don't wanna be straight :3 --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:893937429] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sylph posted...</cite> <quote>I would agree that it is fine to not want to date anyone, that doesn't need more justification. You do start going down a different road when you start espousing things more complicated like it being gay and whatnot. You are responsible for putting down others.</quote> If it's gay I don't wanna be straight :3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 01/12/18 9:48:02 PM #37:	Darklit_Minuet posted... When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter Well, I'll keep that in mind if I ever want to hit on a lesbian. /eyeroll --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:893939204] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter</quote> Well, I'll keep that in mind if I ever want to hit on a lesbian. /eyeroll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JosefuJustice11 01/12/18 9:53:49 PM #38:	If it's based solely on personal preference, then no. Context is key here. --- I felt like I was watching a dream I'd never wake up from...hmp. Before I knew it, the dream was all over. <cite>JosefuJustice11 posted [p:893939506] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>If it's based solely on personal preference, then no. Context is key here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itennu 01/12/18 9:56:05 PM #39:	as a transgirl i say no, it is absolutely not. if someone isn't comfortable with me and my body or don't want to date me because i use to be a guy, i can totally understand that. trying to force acceptance on others is wrong, everyone has full rights to their own heart. --- ~ i t e n n u ~ ~ don't ask, just touch me ~ <cite>Itennu posted [p:893939628] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>as a transgirl i say no, it is absolutely not. if someone isn't comfortable with me and my body or don't want to date me because i use to be a guy, i can totally understand that. trying to force acceptance on others is wrong, everyone has full rights to their own heart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 01/12/18 10:01:29 PM #40:	Call it whatever you like, I ain't with that. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:893939902] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Call it whatever you like, I ain't with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuayThai85 01/12/18 10:03:43 PM #41:	Darklit_Minuet posted... When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter Gender is very important. I always wanted a child, a trans person can't provide that for me. Thus making them 100% incompatible for me. --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:893940013] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter</quote> Gender is very important. I always wanted a child, a trans person can't provide that for me. Thus making them 100% incompatible for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 01/12/18 11:53:57 PM #42:	MuayThai85 posted... I always wanted a child First off, lmfao why? Second, there are options like adoption and in vitro. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:893945658] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>MuayThai85 posted...</cite> <quote>I always wanted a child</quote> First off, lmfao why? Second, there are options like adoption and in vitro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StickFigures720 01/12/18 11:58:21 PM #43:	It would be pretty interesting if the vote results were to reveal who voted 'yes' or 'no.' --- "Now I'm not sure if you're living to the fullest or that you've given up on life." <cite>StickFigures720 posted [p:893945865] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>It would be pretty interesting if the vote results were to reveal who voted 'yes' or 'no.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmk 01/13/18 12:02:04 AM #44:	The way I've always looked at it is... Firstly, a lot of guys are just really put off by the thought of the male body, like, sexually thinking about it. It can be homophobic, but it's not always by rule. It can just be seen as gross. I mean yeah, why wouldn't they? If they're straight, it makes sense they'd probably find the same sex kinda gross sexually. Whether or not they believe a transgender person is the gender they identify with, I can see how it could be hard for some to remove out of their head the fact this now-woman had a male body at one time, and perhaps was even raised as a man for a lot of their life. It's like if they go to a restaurant, and there's like, 100s of spoons to choose from. One of the spoons they know to have had some random guy's dick resting on it for awhile. The staff of this restaurant can spend an hour explaining how intensely, thoroughly it's been cleaned to the point no trace of that dick was there, that rationally it's as clean and fine as any other spoon...given the choice between a spoon that had no dick on it, and a spoon that did, I can't really demonise someone for wanting the non-dick spoon if they're grossed out by the male body sexually. \( '~' )/ --- I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as. Croak rush, OK? Weirder, almighty make out. ::) <cite>Tmk posted [p:893946077] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>The way I've always looked at it is... Firstly, a lot of guys are just really put off by the thought of the male body, like, sexually thinking about it. It can be homophobic, but it's not always by rule. It can just be seen as gross. I mean yeah, why wouldn't they? If they're straight, it makes sense they'd probably find the same sex kinda gross sexually. Whether or not they believe a transgender person is the gender they identify with, I can see how it could be hard for some to remove out of their head the fact this now-woman had a male body at one time, and perhaps was even raised as a man for a lot of their life. It's like if they go to a restaurant, and there's like, 100s of spoons to choose from. One of the spoons they know to have had some random guy's dick resting on it for awhile. The staff of this restaurant can spend an hour explaining how intensely, thoroughly it's been cleaned to the point no trace of that dick was there, that rationally it's as clean and fine as any other spoon...given the choice between a spoon that had no dick on it, and a spoon that did, I can't really demonise someone for wanting the non-dick spoon if they're grossed out by the male body sexually. \( '~' )/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/13/18 12:05:18 AM #45:	Itennu posted... as a transgirl i say no, it is absolutely not. if someone isn't comfortable with me and my body or don't want to date me because i use to be a guy, i can totally understand that. trying to force acceptance on others is wrong, everyone has full rights to their own heart. people's preferences are informed by their environments, and our society is extremely transphobic. it's reasonable to suggest that this transphobia might have informed their decision so yes, it's discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman - if the reason is that they're trans --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:893946229] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>Itennu posted...</cite> <quote>as a transgirl i say no, it is absolutely not. if someone isn't comfortable with me and my body or don't want to date me because i use to be a guy, i can totally understand that. trying to force acceptance on others is wrong, everyone has full rights to their own heart.</quote> people's preferences are informed by their environments, and our society is extremely transphobic. it's reasonable to suggest that this transphobia might have informed their decision so yes, it's discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman - if the reason is that they're trans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mystery_Mission 01/13/18 12:06:28 AM #46:	in my eyes they are men and always will b so no <cite>Mystery_Mission posted [p:893946281] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>in my eyes they are men and always will b so no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/13/18 12:11:55 AM #47:	Who cares about what label SJWs will give you for it? This isn't a problem in the real world. No one will actually give you shit for turning down a trans woman for being trans except obviously the person you just rejected. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:893946538] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>Who cares about what label SJWs will give you for it? This isn't a problem in the real world. No one will actually give you shit for turning down a trans woman for being trans except obviously the person you just rejected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 01/13/18 12:24:47 AM #48:	As a general rule, no Attraction isn't amenable to affirmative action. The way Ginuwine handled it was fine, he didn't come across as bigoted The only time i'd raise an eyebrow, and i'm not saying it's discriminatory I just find it interesting, is when someone is attracted to a transperson up until they find out that they're trans. It reminds me of a time a guy I knew liked this girl until he found out she was Korean and not Japanese. I know it's not the same thing, but I won't lie I think it's a little suspect --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:893947144] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>As a general rule, no Attraction isn't amenable to affirmative action. The way Ginuwine handled it was fine, he didn't come across as bigoted The only time i'd raise an eyebrow, and i'm not saying it's discriminatory I just find it interesting, is when someone is attracted to a transperson up until they find out that they're trans. It reminds me of a time a guy I knew liked this girl until he found out she was Korean and not Japanese. I know it's not the same thing, but I won't lie I think it's a little suspect</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 01/13/18 1:25:52 AM #49:	I say who cares. You can refuse to date whoever you want for any reason, be it gender, race, wealth, height, looks, whatever. Some might argue its shallow but you're allowed to be shallow and no one is obligated to date anyone. I wouldn't hold it against anyone, you don't even need a reason. Darklit_Minuet posted... When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter Not everyone is attracted to every gender. That's okay and its not childish or a sign of insecurity. Why do you think it doesn't matter? <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:893949644] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>I say who cares. You can refuse to date whoever you want for any reason, be it gender, race, wealth, height, looks, whatever. Some might argue its shallow but you're allowed to be shallow and no one is obligated to date anyone. I wouldn't hold it against anyone, you don't even need a reason. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter</quote> Not everyone is attracted to every gender. That's okay and its not childish or a sign of insecurity. Why do you think it doesn't matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
not_shawn_z 01/13/18 1:27:11 AM #50:	averagejoel posted... so yes, it's discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman - if the reason is that they're trans Darklit_Minuet posted... When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter Ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahaha It's absolute fucking lunacy that the two of you think you can dictate who other people date and fuck <cite>not_shawn_z posted [p:893949708] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>so yes, it's discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman - if the reason is that they're trans </quote> <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>When you stop being childish and insecure about yourself, you'll learn that gender doesn't matter </quote> Ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahaha It's absolute fucking lunacy that the two of you think you can dictate who other people date and fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
not_shawn_z 01/13/18 1:34:51 AM #51:	I want page two to start off with an emphasis on the fact that two people are trying to tell you who to fuck and be attracted to <cite>not_shawn_z posted [p:893949975] in Is it disc... [t:76194993]...</cite> <quote>I want page two to start off with an emphasis on the fact that two people are trying to tell you who to fuck and be attracted to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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