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Scorsese2002
01/09/18 11:39:02 AM
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Phantom_Nook
01/09/18 11:42:55 AM
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She really is as dumb as a brick.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 11:43:20 AM
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Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.
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Fam_Fam
01/09/18 11:44:13 AM
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why does she get the blame for her dad's alleged actions? i think her post is good and right on.

people are dicks
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josifrees
01/09/18 11:44:53 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
why does she get the blame for her dad's alleged actions? i think her post is good and right on.

people are dicks


She knows this better than anyone, her father is the biggest one around
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SK8T3R215
01/09/18 11:45:02 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
She really is as dumb as a brick.


Lol
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Fam_Fam
01/09/18 11:45:23 AM
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josifrees posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
why does she get the blame for her dad's alleged actions? i think her post is good and right on.

people are dicks


She knows this better than anyone, her father is the biggest one around


this is irrelevant to the content of my post, and this topic, and you know it
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Banjo2553
01/09/18 11:50:14 AM
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I...don't get it. Just because she's the daughter of D. Trump doesn't mean she supports his actions.
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lilORANG
01/09/18 11:50:33 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
She really is as dumb as a brick.

the orange doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 11:54:46 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
I...don't get it. Just because she's the daughter of D. Trump doesn't mean she supports his actions.


Also because she didn't turncoat on blood over accusations. -_-

Again, don't spit in the faces of people coming to your side on an issue. Accept their support, on that issue. Compartmentalization is key to making progress and gains.
This is my issue with the modern left. Intersectionality aka radical ideological purists poison everything.
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BLAKUboy
01/09/18 11:55:16 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
I...don't get it. Just because she's the daughter of D. Trump doesn't mean she supports his actions.

It's not like she's trying to oppose them, either. And she's officially one of his advisers.
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josifrees
01/09/18 11:58:19 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
josifrees posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
why does she get the blame for her dad's alleged actions? i think her post is good and right on.

people are dicks


She knows this better than anyone, her father is the biggest one around


this is irrelevant to the content of my post, and this topic, and you know it


Mark me for offtopic then stop crine
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
01/09/18 12:00:57 PM
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She would have to be incredibly stupid to tweet that out and not expect backlash. I'll assume a novice aide did it.
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SK8T3R215
01/09/18 12:01:42 PM
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#TIMESUP*

*unless you're a man, a Republican and/or other criteria to be determined on a case-by-case basis then you can't support our cause
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daftpunk_mk5
01/09/18 12:03:25 PM
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How fucking toxic do liberals have to be
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 12:04:05 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
I...don't get it. Just because she's the daughter of D. Trump doesn't mean she supports his actions.

It's not like she's trying to oppose them, either. And she's officially one of his advisers.


My father's comments were clearly inappropriate and offensive, and I'm glad that he acknowledged this fact with an immediate apology to my family and the American people.
- Ivanka

Other than that, again, is she suppose to attack her father over allegations and accusations?

What exactly is she suppose to be going against her father on that makes her pro-Oprahspeech tweet hypocritical?
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Vegy
01/09/18 12:05:51 PM
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01/09/18 12:05:53 PM
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It shows a tremendous lack of self-awareness, much like when Melania announced her anti-cyberbullying thing
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Damn_Underscore
01/09/18 12:06:34 PM
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Liberals showing once again why no one likes them
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daftpunk_mk5
01/09/18 12:06:45 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...


What exactly is she suppose to be going against her father on that makes her pro-Oprahspeech tweet hypocritical?


Also its important to remember that the women who made the accusations were literally PAID by the Clinton campaign.
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s0nicfan
01/09/18 12:08:15 PM
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It's astonishing the mental gymnastics people have to perform to justify unabashed assholes shitting all over Ivanka for a completely positive and supportive message.
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KarmaMuffin
01/09/18 12:08:17 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
This is my issue with the modern left. Intersectionality aka radical ideological purists poison everything.

People who say this seem to hold the left to a higher standard than the right.
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Kavatar
01/09/18 12:09:55 PM
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Ivanka is one of the most oblivious, delusional people in the world. I think that happens when you grow up privileged.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 12:13:03 PM
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KarmaMuffin posted...
People who say this seem to hold the left to a higher standard than the right.


I complain about the right plenty but overall I consider the right to be a lost cause. House cleaning is easier when I understand (or thought I did) some of the presuppositions of the left.
edit: I get what you're saying though, that's how I feel about Sargon and his types.
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Heineken14
01/09/18 12:13:56 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Liberals showing once again why no one likes them


That's pretty bad then, if the party that no one likes just got substantially more votes than Donnie in the last presidential election.
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Vegy
01/09/18 12:17:48 PM
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BLAKUboy
01/09/18 12:20:15 PM
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That's pretty bad then, if the party that no one likes just got substantially more votes than Donnie in the last presidential election.

You're telling me Trumpeters are full of shit? This is surely a fresh take!
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cjsdowg
01/09/18 12:21:59 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
I...don't get it. Just because she's the daughter of D. Trump doesn't mean she supports his actions.


Also because she didn't turncoat on blood over accusations. -_-

Again, don't spit in the faces of people coming to your side on an issue. Accept their support, on that issue. Compartmentalization is key to making progress and gains.
This is my issue with the modern left. Intersectionality aka radical ideological purists poison everything.


Bull shit. Have you seen how many republicans or flipping their lids over the the ladies at the GG wearing black. People acted as if it was personal insult to them.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 12:25:31 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Bull shit.


What exactly what bullshit about what I said?

Have you seen how many republicans or flipping their lids over the the ladies at the GG wearing black. People acted as if it was personal insult to them.


What the fuck are you talking about?
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Anteaterking
01/09/18 12:27:11 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.


Here "coming to your side" means "Trying to keep up the image of being the woke one in the White House". Jared and Ivanka constantly were leaking things throughout the last year trying to paint themselves in a good light for their New York socialite community.

Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?
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Scorsese2002
01/09/18 12:28:38 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.


Here "coming to your side" means "Trying to keep up the image of being the woke one in the White House". Jared and Ivanka constantly were leaking things throughout the last year trying to paint themselves in a good light for their New York socialite community.

Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?


Please stop with the term "woke", please?
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daftpunk_mk5
01/09/18 12:29:39 PM
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Vegy posted...
I want to fuck her HARD if you know what i mean


I would eat her ass and let her piss in my mouth to wash it down
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HypnoCoosh
01/09/18 12:29:59 PM
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Trump family delivering salty liberal tears as usual.

It literally takes zero effort to piss of liberals they are just angry people.
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s0nicfan
01/09/18 12:30:06 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.


Here "coming to your side" means "Trying to keep up the image of being the woke one in the White House". Jared and Ivanka constantly were leaking things throughout the last year trying to paint themselves in a good light for their New York socialite community.

Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?


So Ivanka tweeting support is self-seving, but a bunch of hollywood women showing "solidarity" after Weinstein has already been ejected and it is safe and convenient to do so isn't? 99% of the people giving speeches knew for YEARS that a sexual predator was abusing their co-workers and they didn't say SHIT because it would potentially hurt their careers, so to pretend like after it's all over they're somehow genuine is laughable.
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Anteaterking
01/09/18 12:30:33 PM
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Scorsese2002 posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.


Here "coming to your side" means "Trying to keep up the image of being the woke one in the White House". Jared and Ivanka constantly were leaking things throughout the last year trying to paint themselves in a good light for their New York socialite community.

Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?


Please stop with the term "woke", please?


I didn't want to use quotation marks inside of quotation marks.
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HypnoCoosh
01/09/18 12:30:47 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not good to spit in the face of people coming to your side on an issue.


Here "coming to your side" means "Trying to keep up the image of being the woke one in the White House". Jared and Ivanka constantly were leaking things throughout the last year trying to paint themselves in a good light for their New York socialite community.

Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?


So Ivanka tweeting support is self-seving, but a bunch of hollywood women showing "solidarity" after Weinstein has already been ejected and it is safe and convenient to do so isn't? 99% of the people giving speeches knew for YEARS that a sexual predator was abusing their co-workers and they didn't say SHIT because it would potentially hurt their careers, so to pretend like after it's all over they're somehow genuine is laughable.


Stop it with your logic you're going to confuse him.
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cjsdowg
01/09/18 12:33:27 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

What the f*** are you talking about?


This guy is a little annoying, but they cite Republicans reaction. So yeah this is the rights reaction to something as simple as don't harass anyone.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/09/18 12:33:39 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Why is it a surprise that people see this as a self-serving gesture rather than actual support?


Because that's fundamentally all twitter is, vapid virtue signaling.
No one knows what Ivanka is telling Trump in private. Maybe she is leaning him certain ways.

Sharing the message with her followers, of which there probably isn't a ton of overlap with her opponents (also of which she has more of than her respondents), is about all you can ask for. Well that and whatever (hopefully good) unknown advice she's giving Trump.
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Rathalos888
01/09/18 12:34:07 PM
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As Dave Chappelle put in his newest special: "You're gonna have a lot of imperfect allies".

Fuck people who are hating on her. You can't move toward change while simultaneously lashing out against anyone who maybe has a change of heart and wishes to support your movement.
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Anteaterking
01/09/18 12:34:59 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
So Ivanka tweeting support is self-seving, but a bunch of hollywood women showing "solidarity" after Weinstein has already been ejected and it is safe and convenient to do so isn't? 99% of the people giving speeches knew for YEARS that a sexual predator was abusing their co-workers and they didn't say s*** because it would potentially hurt their careers, so to pretend like after it's all over they're somehow genuine is laughable.


I think you have the wrong perspective on this. You're mostly talking about women who had to deal with the exact same things as their co-workers (to varying degrees). Women in an industry that seemed hopelessly controlled by men like Weinstein coming out in solidarity and saying that the people who came out before them were braver than they were for it aren't "self-serving".
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Coffeebeanz
01/09/18 12:36:01 PM
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ITT everyone on CE has exactly the same political views as their parents
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s0nicfan
01/09/18 12:36:30 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
So Ivanka tweeting support is self-seving, but a bunch of hollywood women showing "solidarity" after Weinstein has already been ejected and it is safe and convenient to do so isn't? 99% of the people giving speeches knew for YEARS that a sexual predator was abusing their co-workers and they didn't say s*** because it would potentially hurt their careers, so to pretend like after it's all over they're somehow genuine is laughable.


I think you have the wrong perspective on this. You're mostly talking about women who had to deal with the exact same things as their co-workers (to varying degrees). Women in an industry that seemed hopelessly controlled by men like Weinstein coming out in solidarity and saying that the people who came out before them were braver than they were for it aren't "self-serving".


Yea it is. They've got their careers. They've got their awards. All the hard, risky work is done, and now here they come wearing a black dress and getting praised for it. It's a joke. They did nothing when it would have helped people, and are now after the fact participating in a media campaign that makes every one of them look like paragons of virtue. They're sacrificing nothing and making themselves look good in the process.
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HypnoCoosh
01/09/18 12:37:57 PM
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s0nicfan droppin truth bombs all over the place ITT
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Kavatar
01/09/18 12:38:46 PM
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Rathalos888 posted...
As Dave Chappelle put in his newest special: "You're gonna have a lot of imperfect allies".

Fuck people who are hating on her. You can't move toward change while simultaneously lashing out against anyone who maybe has a change of heart and wishes to support your movement.

Her father was literally one of the main targets of Oprah's speech. If she says absolutely nothing against him, her "support" is worthless.
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Anteaterking
01/09/18 12:40:07 PM
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Yea it is. They've got their careers. They've got their awards.


Because they also put up with sexual harassment (and for some, assault) to get there.

You're complaining that the people who didn't feel they had power to come out against these big producers didn't come out against them.
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s0nicfan
01/09/18 12:41:54 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Yea it is. They've got their careers. They've got their awards.


Because they also put up with sexual harassment (and for some, assault) to get there.

You're complaining that the people who didn't feel they had power to come out against these big producers didn't come out against them.


Yes I am. That's exactly what I'm doing. You don't get to sit back while others risk their careers to expose a great injustice and then after you've survived any potential blacklists show up to win an award in a dress and get heralded as a champion of justice. You shouldn't get your name recognition elevated for doing nothing. If they really want to help? The next time they get a high profile role they can give it up to one of Weinstein's victims. Boosting your own career on the backs of victims you refused to help is as self-serving as it comes.
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Anteaterking
01/09/18 12:43:12 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Yea it is. They've got their careers. They've got their awards.


Because they also put up with sexual harassment (and for some, assault) to get there.

You're complaining that the people who didn't feel they had power to come out against these big producers didn't come out against them.


Yes I am. That's exactly what I'm doing. You don't get to sit back while others risk their careers to expose a great injustice and then after you've survived any potential blacklists show up to win an award in a dress and get heralded as a champion of justice.


I think you're completely exaggerating any individual woman being treated as a champion of justice for wearing a black dress.
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