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hortanz
01/08/18 6:40:51 PM
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The author of the controversial memo that upended Google in August is suing the company, alleging that white, male conservatives are systematically discriminated against by Google.

James Damore was fired as an engineer after the manifesto, which questioned the benefits of diversity programs and suggested women may be biologically inferior engineers, was widely passed around the company. In a new lawsuit, he and another fired engineer claim that employees who expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Googles employment policies and its business, such as diversity hiring policies, bias sensitivity, or social justice, were/are singled out, mistreated, and systematically punished and terminated from Google, in violation of their legal rights.

Attorneys for Damore and the other engineer, David Gudeman, filed the lawsuit today in Californias Santa Clara Superior Court, and are seeking to represent others whose rights they claim were also violated specifically, the companys conservative white men. The lawsuit contains dozens of pages of internal Google communications that, according to the suit, demonstrate anti-conservative sentiment at the company, although that characterization seems debatable in several of the cited examples.

Damore became a minor celebrity in some parts of the online right after the memo leaked out. To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK, CEO Sundar Pichai said in an email to staff after Damore was fired.

Gudeman was fired in 2016 after making comments about a Muslim colleague. According to the suit, Google human resources said the comments suggested Gudeman was linking the colleague to terrorism. The lawsuit does not contain the full exchange but says Gudeman claimed, after a colleague said he had been targeted by the FBI, that the FBI could have possibly found something interesting related to the colleagues trip to Pakistan.

Meanwhile, Google is fighting back claims that women at the company have been systematically underpaid. After a judge dismissed an initial complaint, a group tried again by amending their complaint this month.

We look forward to defending against Mr. Damores lawsuit in court, a Google spokesperson said in a statement.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/8/16863342/james-damore-google-lawsuit-diversity-memo


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RebelElite791
01/08/18 6:42:25 PM
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Kazi1212
01/08/18 6:43:15 PM
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Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs
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RebelElite791
01/08/18 6:44:18 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs

Whose alt
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Sonicblack35
01/08/18 6:47:18 PM
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hortanz posted...
and suggested women may be biologically inferior engineers,


Annnnnnd that's gonna be a "fair, next" from me, dawg.
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Kazi1212
01/08/18 6:48:36 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs

Whose alt


>4900 karma
>alt
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 6:49:44 PM
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Good for him. His firing was bs
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mD_atheist
01/08/18 6:49:50 PM
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Sonicblack35 posted...
hortanz posted...
and suggested women may be biologically inferior engineers,


Annnnnnd that's gonna be a "fair, next" from me, dawg.


He didn't say that
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hortanz
01/08/18 6:50:11 PM
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ye rebel there are still some people who don't hide their silly posts behind alts you know
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 6:50:20 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Whose alt


Lmao @ this board. You can't have an opinion on anything unless it's left leaning
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 6:53:17 PM
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Sonicblack35 posted...
hortanz posted...
and suggested women may be biologically inferior engineers,


Annnnnnd that's gonna be a "fair, next" from me, dawg.

There's a reason they infer he "suggested" that instead of actually quoting him. And it's because what actually happened is a lot less interesting.
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Darmik
01/08/18 6:54:31 PM
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I guess the money from conservative podcasts dried up huh.
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 6:55:28 PM
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Darmik posted...
I guess the money from conservative podcasts dried up huh.


He's been saying he would do this for a while
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HypnoCoosh
01/08/18 6:55:38 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs

Whose alt


>4900 karma
>alt


It's rebel just ignore he's a horrible person
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MC_BatCommander
01/08/18 6:56:19 PM
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He got fired for that stupid manifesto that made Google look bad in the public eye, it's fair next and he's not gonna win this. A conservative like him should understand a company doing what they have to in order to protect their image.
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RebelElite791
01/08/18 7:00:42 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs

Whose alt


>4900 karma
>alt

Yeah nobody has alts that they made the same time as their mains or anything.

And yeah, rando shows up one day making shitty posts with stupid opinions, i assume it's an alt

not__shawn__z posted...
Lmao @ this board. You can't have an opinion on anything unless it's left leaning

Just like this guy
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:02:27 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs

lol imagine sincerely holding this belief
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:05:37 PM
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I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?
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NinjaBreakfast
01/08/18 7:07:02 PM
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I actually kinda feel bad for this dweeb being used as a conduit for all sorts of right wing weirdos who will chew him up and spit him out once his usefulness passes.

Or yknow I would if he wasn't a total fucking pathetic clown
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:09:27 PM
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James Damore is a literal robot, not really a clown.
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ImaAskAQuestion
01/08/18 7:09:56 PM
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Snowflake
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MacadamianNut3
01/08/18 7:10:03 PM
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https://medium.com/@Cernovich/full-james-damore-memo-uncensored-memo-with-charts-and-cites-339f3d2d05f

He spends all that time talking about women vs men as a whole and then ends it by saying "oh wait we should judge people individually". Fucking no shit Sherlock.

The argument was never that some rando lady on the street should be working at Google. It's about the women that are already qualified to be Google engineers, it's those individuals
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:10:43 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US
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NinjaBreakfast
01/08/18 7:11:22 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
He spends all that time talking about women vs men as a whole and then ends it by saying "oh wait we should judge people individually". Fucking no shit Sherlock.

Probably figured it would give him some element of plausible deniability.
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 7:11:40 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Just like this guy


Point in case. Lol.
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 7:11:56 PM
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averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.
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Funbazooka
01/08/18 7:12:27 PM
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He's right to sue. Hope he wins or gets a settlement at least.

The news misrepresented his "manifesto" so most regular joe schmoe liberals are misinformed. The court may be a different matter.

If they rule in his favor the loony left will of course screech about systemic patriarchy and misogyny.
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cjsdowg
01/08/18 7:13:20 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs


So you feel that people who have the belief that that woman and other minorities are biology inferior are facing discrimination. Really.
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:13:33 PM
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not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.

there's some progress being made, but conservative beliefs are still pervasive throughout the US. it's true whether or not you want to believe it
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:14:47 PM
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averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US

Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.
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MacadamianNut3
01/08/18 7:16:13 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

"They're the status quo everywhere in the US"

"Yeah right because California and CEO of California-based company"
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:17:39 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

Enlighten me to your interpretation of conservatism being the status quo everywhere in the US.
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Funbazooka
01/08/18 7:18:01 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
So you feel that people who have the belief that that woman and other minorities are biology inferior

This was not Damore's contention.
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 7:18:14 PM
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averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.

there's some progress being made, but conservative beliefs are still pervasive throughout the US. it's true whether or not you want to believe it


Liberals own
The media
Hollywood and entertainment
Social media
Tech industry
Academia

Conservatives own
Whitehouse

What am I missing here? What do you think is wrong?
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:18:51 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US

Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.


california is neoliberal as fuck
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:19:11 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

"They're the status quo everywhere in the US"

"Yeah right because California and CEO of California-based company"

Are you unaware where James worked? Or what everywhere means? California is a big chunk of the US. Would be weird to not include California when saying "everywhere in the US."
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MacadamianNut3
01/08/18 7:19:47 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
Enlighten me to your interpretation of conservatism being the status quo everywhere in the US.

I don't care enough to get into a libruls vs conservatrolls argument. I was simply pointing out how your attempt at snark didn't make any sense in the context of his post
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:20:11 PM
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not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.

there's some progress being made, but conservative beliefs are still pervasive throughout the US. it's true whether or not you want to believe it


Liberals own
The media
Hollywood and entertainment
Social media
Tech industry
Academia

Conservatives own
Whitehouse

What am I missing here? What do you think is wrong?

conservatism is a large umbrella term which encompasses many ideologies. liberalism is one of those ideologies.
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:20:38 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Enlighten me to your interpretation of conservatism being the status quo everywhere in the US.

I don't care enough to get into a libruls vs conservatrolls argument. I was simply pointing out how your attempt at snark didn't make any sense in the context of his post

And I'm pointing out that your attempt at snark didn't make any sense in the context of our posts.
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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 7:21:00 PM
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averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.

there's some progress being made, but conservative beliefs are still pervasive throughout the US. it's true whether or not you want to believe it


Liberals own
The media
Hollywood and entertainment
Social media
Tech industry
Academia

Conservatives own
Whitehouse

What am I missing here? What do you think is wrong?

conservatism is a large umbrella term which encompasses many ideologies. liberalism is one of those ideologies.


Thank you for your bullshit answer. Lol
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MacadamianNut3
01/08/18 7:21:20 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
And I'm pointing out that your attempt at snark didn't make any sense.

It does when you realize there are 50 states and not 1, California's population makes up ~10% of the population (so there's a whole nother 90% you are disregarding), and it's also second to.....liberal??? Texas

Oh damn my mistake Texas is not #1
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RebelElite791
01/08/18 7:21:37 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

"They're the status quo everywhere in the US"

"Yeah right because California and CEO of California-based company"

Are you unaware where James worked? Or what everywhere means? California is a big chunk of the US. Would be weird to not include California when saying "everywhere in the US."

Vast swaths of California are hardcore conservative redneck hate-group territory.
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:23:16 PM
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not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
averagejoel posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
I'm confused. You guys don't think conservative viewpoints are discriminated against in Silicon Valley?

they're the status quo everywhere in the US


Imagine thinking this.

there's some progress being made, but conservative beliefs are still pervasive throughout the US. it's true whether or not you want to believe it


Liberals own
The media
Hollywood and entertainment
Social media
Tech industry
Academia

Conservatives own
Whitehouse

What am I missing here? What do you think is wrong?

conservatism is a large umbrella term which encompasses many ideologies. liberalism is one of those ideologies.


Thank you for your bullshit answer. Lol

since you were unable to come up with a response, I assume this means you concede.

you're welcome
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:23:31 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
And I'm pointing out that your attempt at snark didn't make any sense.

It does when you realize there are 50 states and not 1

Did he say everywhere but California? Or did he say everywhere? This is in the context of a topic about an employee facing discrimination that worked in California. Your objection is really strange.
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Kazi1212
01/08/18 7:24:31 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I dont agree with his views but its clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs


So you feel that people who have the belief that that woman and other minorities are biology inferior are facing discrimination. Really.


Show me where he said women are inferior is all aspects of life. I believe women are in general athletically inferior to men, does that make me a misogynist? I also believe men are in general more violent and inferior to women in terms of compassion and sympathy, does that make me a misandrist? Its one thing to believe various demographics of people are worse or better at certain thing than others, but that doesnt mean not respecting them and treating them with the utmost dignity for the human being and individual that they are. But people who want to jump to the racists and misogynis conclusion miss this important nuance
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NurseRedHeart
01/08/18 7:24:32 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Good, I don?t agree with his views but it?s clear as day people just holding conservative beliefs get discriminated against even if it has nothing to do with how competent they are at their jobs


True

But, this is also silicon valley, leftists say it's full of conservative naughtiness.
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foreverzero212
01/08/18 7:24:33 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

"They're the status quo everywhere in the US"

"Yeah right because California and CEO of California-based company"

Are you unaware where James worked? Or what everywhere means? California is a big chunk of the US. Would be weird to not include California when saying "everywhere in the US."

Vast swaths of California are hardcore conservative redneck hate-group territory.

Does that include Silicon Valley, specifically Google, where James faced this alleged discrimination?
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averagejoel
01/08/18 7:25:37 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
Oh yeah I forgot California is a conservative hotbed and Sundar Pichai is a white nationalist.

You must have also forgotten to read the post you quoted

"They're the status quo everywhere in the US"

"Yeah right because California and CEO of California-based company"

Are you unaware where James worked? Or what everywhere means? California is a big chunk of the US. Would be weird to not include California when saying "everywhere in the US."

Vast swaths of California are hardcore conservative redneck hate-group territory.

Does that include Silicon Valley, specifically Google, where James faced this alleged discrimination?

how the hell do people have the idea that silicon valley is some haven of progressive politics
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Paper_Okami
01/08/18 7:27:50 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
lmao what an assclown

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not__shawn__z
01/08/18 7:28:11 PM
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averagejoel posted...
since you were unable to come up with a response, I assume this means you concede.

you're welcome


What? I responded lol. Post 40. I'm saying that is the most ridiculous cop out answer I've ever seen
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