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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 6:30:50 PM
#51:


KingCrabCake posted...
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You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:32:01 PM
#52:


darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Police officers have proven a near-infinite number of times that there is absolutely zero reason to trust them. Ever.

Lmfao what a small box u live in

Okay, let's ignore the fact that cops have been busted lying a billion times. Let's ignore cops stealing evidence and selling it. Let's ignore cops committing murder.

Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?


Yes because im smart enough to realize that the truly bad cops make up an extremely small percentage of the police force.

Like for instance im perfectly fine that officer wilson blasted michael brown. Even though michael Brown was unarmed. Unarmed doesnt mean youre not dangerous
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:32:12 PM
#53:


not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?

I'm sorry but you really have no idea what you're talking about

Police officers have killed unarmed people with zero provocation and got away with it without any legal repercussions - such as the cop who killed Philando Castille. However, the US military is not allowed to fire on an aggressive enemy force unless explicitly fired upon.

Imagine the uproar in the United States if we mandated that police cannot shoot someone unless they've been actually shot at or physically struck by someone - as in, if we forced police officers to actually abide by the exact same rules of engagement as the US military.
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WesternMedia
01/07/18 6:32:51 PM
#54:


not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which developed country has that?
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:33:30 PM
#55:


KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Police officers have proven a near-infinite number of times that there is absolutely zero reason to trust them. Ever.

Lmfao what a small box u live in

Okay, let's ignore the fact that cops have been busted lying a billion times. Let's ignore cops stealing evidence and selling it. Let's ignore cops committing murder.

Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?


Yes because im smart enough to realize that the truly bad cops make up an extremely small percentage of the police force.

Like for instance im perfectly fine that officer wilson blasted michael brown. Even though michael Brown was unarmed. Unarmed doesnt mean youre not dangerous

What part of "I fully support and defend the officer in the Micheal Brown shooting" do you just not seem to understand? Is English not your first language? Did you drop out of school in the third grade?

Just because Micheal Brown deserved to die doesn't immediately mean I should implicitly trust police officers.
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:34:28 PM
#56:


WesternMedia posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which developed country has that?

Great Britain has a whole shit-ton of police stations with zero firearms.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 6:34:37 PM
#57:


not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which is better on everyone. Criminals don't kill cops in those countries either, because they know the cop won't be killing them. If I were a criminal, which I'm not, and lived in America, which I don't, I know I'd want to shoot any cop that tried to pull me over because it's them or me. Living in a civilized country, neither myself nor the cops bother carrying guns around and my interactions with them are pretty pleasant
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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 6:37:45 PM
#58:


darkjedilink posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?

I'm sorry but you really have no idea what you're talking about

Police officers have killed unarmed people with zero provocation and got away with it without any legal repercussions - such as the cop who killed Philando Castille. However, the US military is not allowed to fire on an aggressive enemy force unless explicitly fired upon.

Imagine the uproar in the United States if we mandated that police cannot shoot someone unless they've been actually shot at or physically struck by someone - as in, if we forced police officers to actually abide by the exact same rules of engagement as the US military.


You are very biased and wrong. As someone who argues law for a living, your presentation of the castilo case is completely erroneous. While a tragic situation, it was legally a justified shooting. This isn't a cold blooded murder case. Those do exist, so use them as examples; there is no need to lie and distort the trurh

You also really have no idea what goes on in the military
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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 6:39:19 PM
#59:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which is better on everyone. Criminals don't kill cops in those countries either, because they know the cop won't be killing them. If I were a criminal, which I'm not, and lived in America, which I don't, I know I'd want to shoot any cop that tried to pull me over because it's them or me. Living in a civilized country, neither myself nor the cops bother carrying guns around and my interactions with them are pretty pleasant


We will have to agree to disagree. When I see the amount of rape, truck, knife, acid attacks going on to our brothers across the ocean, I'm genuinely upset that those citizens (police too) have no way to protect themselves
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 6:39:30 PM
#60:


not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed
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WesternMedia
01/07/18 6:39:52 PM
#61:


darkjedilink posted...
WesternMedia posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which developed country has that?

Great Britain has a whole shit-ton of police stations with zero firearms.

It does seem more and more stations in the UK are getting firearms but overall you're right. Most developed countries still keep their officers armed though.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:40:30 PM
#62:


not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything


Well yeah theyre unarmed cause their citizens dont have illegal guns and go around killing people
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Iwin2013
01/07/18 6:41:35 PM
#63:


darkprince45 posted...
Link the video? And that's not really true dude a lot of bodycams videos are just not released until after an investigation is over which might takes years.

And there's reasons why all these shootings like Michael Browns etc.. are cleared from wrongdoing.

You need to look at it from a perspective of a reasonable officers response to the circumstances at hand. Not the outraged racial motivated media way.

It's easy to say whatever until you're actually in the situation. Responding to a robbery call with multiple witnesses. Half of them saying he's armed, other half he's got a machete, 2 people saying hes crazy.

Then you show up to a call and you got a way bigger than you who just committed a felony and he's in fight or flight mode. You tell him to stop moving towards you or stop reaching in his waistband or whatever area. All it takes is a split second for him to pull a gun out and you're dead


That's what people on this site don't understand. They all buy into the Hollywood Corrupted Cop agenda that you'd see in the movies, coming from a family of cops. I hear all the stories, and been on a ride along.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:42:06 PM
#64:


darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Police officers have proven a near-infinite number of times that there is absolutely zero reason to trust them. Ever.

Lmfao what a small box u live in

Okay, let's ignore the fact that cops have been busted lying a billion times. Let's ignore cops stealing evidence and selling it. Let's ignore cops committing murder.

Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?


Yes because im smart enough to realize that the truly bad cops make up an extremely small percentage of the police force.

Like for instance im perfectly fine that officer wilson blasted michael brown. Even though michael Brown was unarmed. Unarmed doesnt mean youre not dangerous

What part of "I fully support and defend the officer in the Micheal Brown shooting" do you just not seem to understand? Is English not your first language? Did you drop out of school in the third grade?

Just because Micheal Brown deserved to die doesn't immediately mean I should implicitly trust police officers.


I never said you were against that. Instead of being a pompous ass try to read what has been written.

And yes seeing how majority of cops arent these evil bastards that just wanna shoot and ruin lives..you should trust them.

Sorry you live in a small box
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:43:09 PM
#65:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed


What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:43:37 PM
#66:


not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?

I'm sorry but you really have no idea what you're talking about

Police officers have killed unarmed people with zero provocation and got away with it without any legal repercussions - such as the cop who killed Philando Castille. However, the US military is not allowed to fire on an aggressive enemy force unless explicitly fired upon.

Imagine the uproar in the United States if we mandated that police cannot shoot someone unless they've been actually shot at or physically struck by someone - as in, if we forced police officers to actually abide by the exact same rules of engagement as the US military.

You are very biased and wrong. As someone who argues law for a living, your presentation of the castilo case is completely erroneous. While a tragic situation, it was legally a justified shooting. This isn't a cold blooded murder case. Those do exist, so use them as examples; there is no need to lie and distort the trurh

You also really have no idea what goes on in the military

How are you going to tell me that a police officer can kill a man reaching for his wallet is more trustworthy than a soldier told not to fire on the advancing military force because his M-4 carbine is more powerful than their rocks and baseball bats?

And I do know what I'm talking about, Mr. Law Professor, since I actually served in the military. Standard rules of engagement, even during wartime, are not to fire unless fired upon. This is because, if you shoot first, you may not know who you're shooting, and can spark an international incident or war crime, since killing unarmed civilians is illegal for the military to do - but apparently not cops.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:43:49 PM
#67:


Iwin2013 posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Link the video? And that's not really true dude a lot of bodycams videos are just not released until after an investigation is over which might takes years.

And there's reasons why all these shootings like Michael Browns etc.. are cleared from wrongdoing.

You need to look at it from a perspective of a reasonable officers response to the circumstances at hand. Not the outraged racial motivated media way.

It's easy to say whatever until you're actually in the situation. Responding to a robbery call with multiple witnesses. Half of them saying he's armed, other half he's got a machete, 2 people saying hes crazy.

Then you show up to a call and you got a way bigger than you who just committed a felony and he's in fight or flight mode. You tell him to stop moving towards you or stop reaching in his waistband or whatever area. All it takes is a split second for him to pull a gun out and you're dead


That's what people on this site don't understand. They all buy into the Hollywood Corrupted Cop agenda that you'd see in the movies, coming from a family of cops. I hear all the stories, and been on a ride along.


The best is when they say dont shoot them to kill. Shoot them in the leg or arm.
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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 6:43:58 PM
#68:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed


You are arguing hindsight, which is invalid. Cops don't have Mewtwo powers and can see into the future. The cop can't read minds and is not fully aware of someone's intent. The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Tragic situation, but justified, because hindsight isn't an argument

I am not a law professor. And if you had been deployed, you wouldn't be saying the things you were saying
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:44:02 PM
#69:


KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed

What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?

The cop who killed Philando Castille....
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gunplagirl
01/07/18 6:45:17 PM
#70:


not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?


I'm sorry but you really have no idea what you're talking about


US soldiers are not able to engage in a gun fight unless they either are fired upon and have confirmed the targets who fired on them OR else they have to work up an escalation chain and generally it will cap shy of using guns because forcing somebody to work with you to give over possible intelligence only harms the perception of our soldiers and hurts the overall mission. It's only if they have orders to, no matter what, bring that person in for info that they may have to engage in an altercation.

The police can roll up onto a scene, weapons drawn and fire on somebodh and not have tried to issue a command or announce that they're police before that. If the police feel anything could possibly be a violent reaction or resistance (like how bodies recoil when slammed against hard objects like cars or the ground), they can fire on the person. Hit the wrong person? Investigation will clear them and they get paid vacation in the meantime, or else get removed from the case. No real punishment. Meanwhile if a military service member makes a mistake like that? They'll probably be confined to quarters and face an inquiry and potential court-martial for improper behavior. No slap on the wrists. And if they did kill civilians and it wasn't a situation that merited it? They're going to military prison.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:45:29 PM
#71:


Darklit_Minuet posted...

Which is better on everyone. Criminals don't kill cops in those countries either, because they know the cop won't be killing them. If I were a criminal, which I'm not, and lived in America, which I don't, I know I'd want to shoot any cop that tried to pull me over because it's them or me. Living in a civilized country, neither myself nor the cops bother carrying guns around and my interactions with them are pretty pleasant


Wow the dumbest post i have seen to date
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:46:18 PM
#72:


darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed

What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?

The cop who killed Philando Castille....


Oh you see Castille was illegally carrying a gun and iirc the cop told him NOT to move at all
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GiftedACIII
01/07/18 6:46:58 PM
#73:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
You're so anti-cop it's hilarious.

ITT: Being against cops lying or killing is being anti-cop.

Can't you be pro cops that don't lie or kill?


Cops kill its part of the job sometimes

Not in other countries


Lmfao other countries citizens arent as fucked up as Americans


No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything

Which is better on everyone. Criminals don't kill cops in those countries either, because they know the cop won't be killing them. If I were a criminal, which I'm not, and lived in America, which I don't, I know I'd want to shoot any cop that tried to pull me over because it's them or me. Living in a civilized country, neither myself nor the cops bother carrying guns around and my interactions with them are pretty pleasant

Uh, didn't you say you live in California?
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gunplagirl
01/07/18 6:48:12 PM
#74:


KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed

What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?

The cop who killed Philando Castille....


Oh you see Castille was illegally carrying a gun and iirc the cop told him NOT to move at all

He lawfully owned the gun and had the paperwork to prove it
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:48:46 PM
#75:


gunplagirl posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed

What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?

The cop who killed Philando Castille....


Oh you see Castille was illegally carrying a gun and iirc the cop told him NOT to move at all

He lawfully owned the gun and had the paperwork to prove it


I said he was illegally carrying. Pay attention buddy
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:50:53 PM
#76:


KingCrabCake posted...
gunplagirl posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings

Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed

What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to?

The cop who killed Philando Castille....

Oh you see Castille was illegally carrying a gun and iirc the cop told him NOT to move at all

He lawfully owned the gun and had the paperwork to prove it

I said he was illegally carrying. Pay attention buddy

How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit.
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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 6:51:12 PM
#77:


gunplagirl posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone?


I'm sorry but you really have no idea what you're talking about


US soldiers are not able to engage in a gun fight unless they either are fired upon and have confirmed the targets who fired on them OR else they have to work up an escalation chain and generally it will cap shy of using guns because forcing somebody to work with you to give over possible intelligence only harms the perception of our soldiers and hurts the overall mission. It's only if they have orders to, no matter what, bring that person in for info that they may have to engage in an altercation.

The police can roll up onto a scene, weapons drawn and fire on somebodh and not have tried to issue a command or announce that they're police before that. If the police feel anything could possibly be a violent reaction or resistance (like how bodies recoil when slammed against hard objects like cars or the ground), they can fire on the person. Hit the wrong person? Investigation will clear them and they get paid vacation in the meantime, or else get removed from the case. No real punishment. Meanwhile if a military service member makes a mistake like that? They'll probably be confined to quarters and face an inquiry and potential court-martial for improper behavior. No slap on the wrists. And if they did kill civilians and it wasn't a situation that merited it? They're going to military prison.


Huge generalizations on both accounts my man. A lot of dishonesty there too. Yes, military has a policy. Just as police do. They don't just roll up and fire at people, no policy welcomes that, in any department in America
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r4X0r
01/07/18 6:51:37 PM
#78:


The police can lie to you, yes. You also have the right to remain silent. Which you should absolutely exercise if the police start talking to you.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:52:11 PM
#79:


darkjedilink posted...

How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit.


He was high af and guess whats one of the rules of having a concealed carry permit...come on take a guess??

Oh and

An audio recording captured Castile telling Yanez he had a gun in the car, and the officer telling Castile not to reach for it. Seconds later, Yanez opened fire

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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 6:52:31 PM
#80:


not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:54:21 PM
#81:


KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit.


He was high af and guess whats one of the rules of having a concealed carry permit...come on take a guess??

Oh and

An audio recording captured Castile telling Yanez he had a gun in the car, and the officer telling Castile not to reach for it. Seconds later, Yanez opened fire

Thinking emoji

He wasn't "high as fuck." He had such a low THC amount in his system that, if it was any lower, it wouldn't have registered.

And, yeah, the cop told him not to reach for it, but the only person who said he reached for it? The cop who killed him, and not literally any of the other people who saw the whole thing.

And he changed his story on that detail a whole bunch of times. Which means he's lying.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:54:28 PM
#82:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:55:30 PM
#83:


KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.

The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed

Because he was told to get his wallet...

You're defending a cop who killed a man who broke precisely zero laws at the time of his death.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 6:55:53 PM
#84:


KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed

Because if he stopped moving he'd be disobeying the previous order.

It's literally impossible to obey all a cop's orders because they shout multiple contradictory ones.

What about the classic don't move/get on the ground/hands on your head/crawl towards me/stay perfectly still crap they use to justify shooting people on the ground?
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:55:57 PM
#85:


darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit.


He was high af and guess whats one of the rules of having a concealed carry permit...come on take a guess??

Oh and

An audio recording captured Castile telling Yanez he had a gun in the car, and the officer telling Castile not to reach for it. Seconds later, Yanez opened fire

Thinking emoji

He wasn't "high as fuck." He had such a low THC amount in his system that, if it was any lower, it wouldn't have registered.

And, yeah, the cop told him not to reach for it, but the only person who said he reached for it? The cop who killed him, and not literally any of the other people who saw the whole thing.

And he changed his story on that detail a whole bunch of times. Which means he's lying.


Lets see cop smelled the pot. Videos of him and his trash gf surfaced of numeroes blunt rides with the kid in the back. And the screening showed up he was high...he was illegally carrying.

Guess who's story also changed....the trash gf

Also link to the drug screening please
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Reis
01/07/18 6:57:01 PM
#86:


KingCrabCake posted...
And the screening showed up he was high.

KingCrabCake posted...
Also link to the drug screening please


Lmao

Stop wasting your time with this clown please
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:57:22 PM
#87:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed

Because if he stopped moving he'd be disobeying the previous order.

It's literally impossible to obey all a cop's orders because they shout multiple contradictory ones.

What about the classic don't move/get on the ground/hands on your head/crawl towards me/stay perfectly still crap they use to justify shooting people on the ground?


Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:57:33 PM
#88:


KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...

How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit.


He was high af and guess whats one of the rules of having a concealed carry permit...come on take a guess??

Oh and

An audio recording captured Castile telling Yanez he had a gun in the car, and the officer telling Castile not to reach for it. Seconds later, Yanez opened fire

Thinking emoji

He wasn't "high as fuck." He had such a low THC amount in his system that, if it was any lower, it wouldn't have registered.

And, yeah, the cop told him not to reach for it, but the only person who said he reached for it? The cop who killed him, and not literally any of the other people who saw the whole thing.

And he changed his story on that detail a whole bunch of times. Which means he's lying.

Lets see cop smelled the pot. Videos of him and his trash gf surfaced of numeroes blunt rides with the kid in the back. And the screening showed up he was high...he was illegally carrying.

Guess who's story also changed....the trash gf

He didn't "smell pot." Marijuana didn't come up as a defense until the trial, AFTER blood tests proved he had THC in his system - a test that, if his THC count was any lower at all, would have been negative.

Oh, and the test didn't show "he was high," because that's not what's tested. The test showed that THC is in his system, which, depending on what test was used, can show drugs still in your system YEARS later.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 6:58:43 PM
#89:


KingCrabCake posted...
Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.

Why shouldn't it have been there? I thought you people were all for people having guns. Is it because he's black?
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:58:49 PM
#90:


@reis posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
And the screening showed up he was high.

KingCrabCake posted...
Also link to the drug screening please


Lmao

Stop wasting your time with this clown please


Im a clown because i want to see the link. Im having a conversation with someone who has information on the subject that i may have gotten wrong. I understand you're not mature, intelligent, or relevant but you dont need to chime and get embarrassed
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 6:59:09 PM
#91:


KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed

Because if he stopped moving he'd be disobeying the previous order.

It's literally impossible to obey all a cop's orders because they shout multiple contradictory ones.

What about the classic don't move/get on the ground/hands on your head/crawl towards me/stay perfectly still crap they use to justify shooting people on the ground?

Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.

Dude, you think a chemical test proves he was high. The only law you argue is clearly in your mom's basement.
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 6:59:25 PM
#92:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.

Why shouldn't it have been there? I thought you people were all for people having guns. Is it because he's black?


Cause he was high. Im sorry you're racist and make everything about race
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darkprince45
01/07/18 6:59:56 PM
#93:


r4X0r posted...
The police can lie to you, yes. You also have the right to remain silent. Which you should absolutely exercise if the police start talking to you.

That's if you're being mirandised. Which means you must be in the middle of something you probably shouldn't be doing. Screaming about your rights like when you get pulled over for speeding is just someone being a jackass
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Reis
01/07/18 7:00:07 PM
#94:


@KingCrabCake

Sorry Hoth I'm not dumb enough to get baited into arguing with you so I'll just laugh at how dumb you are
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not__shawn__z
01/07/18 7:00:20 PM
#95:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


Again, invalid argument. The cop doesn't know what he's reaching for. The cop doesn't know where exactly the gun is. The cop does know he disobeyed 3 direct orders to stop reaching. That is an extremely bad sign -before- you take into account the location of the incident; right outside the worst gun homicide rate in the country

A life lesson to the under 18 crowd that don't live in NY/CA/NJ/other blue states. It's completely asinine, to inform a cop that you are carrying, and then not only reach and make sudden movements, but to continue to do so after 3 direct orders. Mr. Castilo owned the firearm legally (not sure what the other guy is talking about), and as a legal firearm owner he is completely aware of the seriousness of those actions. You say you have a gun, and you do not move. You follow whatever directions they give you, and nothing else
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darkjedilink
01/07/18 7:00:40 PM
#96:


Reis posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
And the screening showed up he was high.

KingCrabCake posted...
Also link to the drug screening please

Lmao

Stop wasting your time with this clown please

Pretty much.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 7:00:47 PM
#97:


KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.

Why shouldn't it have been there? I thought you people were all for people having guns. Is it because he's black?


Cause he was high. Im sorry you're racist and make everything about race

Even if that were true, which you have literally no proof of besides a tiny amount of it being in his system from god knows when, what's wrong with him being high? Laws against weed are wrong and should all be abolished
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 7:01:00 PM
#98:


darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed.

The cop gave him two orders

One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying.

The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying.

Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license.


The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed

Because if he stopped moving he'd be disobeying the previous order.

It's literally impossible to obey all a cop's orders because they shout multiple contradictory ones.

What about the classic don't move/get on the ground/hands on your head/crawl towards me/stay perfectly still crap they use to justify shooting people on the ground?

Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there.

Dude, you think a chemical test proves he was high. The only law you argue is clearly in your mom's basement.


Um. I think he was high because the reports where he had thc in his blood, videos of him going on blunt rides with a 3 yr old surfaced, & the cop smelled it.

You can try to throw insults around but its clear you are only insulting me because you may be wrong here
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Darklit_Minuet
01/07/18 7:01:18 PM
#99:


not__shawn__z posted...
You say you have a gun, and you do not move. You follow whatever directions they give you, and nothing else

He was following the direction he was given, to get his license
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KingCrabCake
01/07/18 7:01:51 PM
#100:


Reis posted...
@KingCrabCake

Sorry Hoth I'm not dumb enough to get baited into arguing with you so I'll just laugh at how dumb you are


Im not hoth. And idc if you debate with me or not. Just pointing put how pathetic and ignorant you are.
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