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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 6:30:50 PM #51: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. No, they just cant kill because a lot of departments across the pond are fucking unarmed and have no means of doing anything ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:32:01 PM #52: |
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted... Yes because im smart enough to realize that the truly bad cops make up an extremely small percentage of the police force. Like for instance im perfectly fine that officer wilson blasted michael brown. Even though michael Brown was unarmed. Unarmed doesnt mean youre not dangerous --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:32:12 PM #53: |
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone? Police officers have killed unarmed people with zero provocation and got away with it without any legal repercussions - such as the cop who killed Philando Castille. However, the US military is not allowed to fire on an aggressive enemy force unless explicitly fired upon. Imagine the uproar in the United States if we mandated that police cannot shoot someone unless they've been actually shot at or physically struck by someone - as in, if we forced police officers to actually abide by the exact same rules of engagement as the US military. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WesternMedia 01/07/18 6:32:51 PM #54: |
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. Which developed country has that? --- Cherish me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:33:30 PM #55: |
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted... What part of "I fully support and defend the officer in the Micheal Brown shooting" do you just not seem to understand? Is English not your first language? Did you drop out of school in the third grade? Just because Micheal Brown deserved to die doesn't immediately mean I should implicitly trust police officers. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:34:28 PM #56: |
WesternMedia posted...
not__shawn__z posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. Great Britain has a whole shit-ton of police stations with zero firearms. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 6:34:37 PM #57: |
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. Which is better on everyone. Criminals don't kill cops in those countries either, because they know the cop won't be killing them. If I were a criminal, which I'm not, and lived in America, which I don't, I know I'd want to shoot any cop that tried to pull me over because it's them or me. Living in a civilized country, neither myself nor the cops bother carrying guns around and my interactions with them are pretty pleasant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 6:37:45 PM #58: |
darkjedilink posted...
not__shawn__z posted...darkjedilink posted...Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone? You are very biased and wrong. As someone who argues law for a living, your presentation of the castilo case is completely erroneous. While a tragic situation, it was legally a justified shooting. This isn't a cold blooded murder case. Those do exist, so use them as examples; there is no need to lie and distort the trurh You also really have no idea what goes on in the military ... Copied to Clipboard!
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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 6:39:19 PM #59: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. We will have to agree to disagree. When I see the amount of rape, truck, knife, acid attacks going on to our brothers across the ocean, I'm genuinely upset that those citizens (police too) have no way to protect themselves ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 6:39:30 PM #60: |
not__shawn__z posted...
it was legally a justified shootings Which means the law is wrong. Killing a person who isn't threatening you and is reaching for his wallet like YOU FUCKING TOLD HIM TO should not be allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WesternMedia 01/07/18 6:39:52 PM #61: |
darkjedilink posted...
WesternMedia posted...not__shawn__z posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted... It does seem more and more stations in the UK are getting firearms but overall you're right. Most developed countries still keep their officers armed though. --- Cherish me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:40:30 PM #62: |
not__shawn__z posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. Well yeah theyre unarmed cause their citizens dont have illegal guns and go around killing people --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iwin2013 01/07/18 6:41:35 PM #63: |
darkprince45 posted...
Link the video? And that's not really true dude a lot of bodycams videos are just not released until after an investigation is over which might takes years. That's what people on this site don't understand. They all buy into the Hollywood Corrupted Cop agenda that you'd see in the movies, coming from a family of cops. I hear all the stories, and been on a ride along. --- #TheSmarkBrotherhood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:42:06 PM #64: |
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted... I never said you were against that. Instead of being a pompous ass try to read what has been written. And yes seeing how majority of cops arent these evil bastards that just wanna shoot and ruin lives..you should trust them. Sorry you live in a small box --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:43:09 PM #65: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings What cop killed a person cause they were reaching for a wallet that they told him to? --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:43:37 PM #66: |
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...not__shawn__z posted...darkjedilink posted...Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone? How are you going to tell me that a police officer can kill a man reaching for his wallet is more trustworthy than a soldier told not to fire on the advancing military force because his M-4 carbine is more powerful than their rocks and baseball bats? And I do know what I'm talking about, Mr. Law Professor, since I actually served in the military. Standard rules of engagement, even during wartime, are not to fire unless fired upon. This is because, if you shoot first, you may not know who you're shooting, and can spark an international incident or war crime, since killing unarmed civilians is illegal for the military to do - but apparently not cops. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:43:49 PM #67: |
Iwin2013 posted...
darkprince45 posted...Link the video? And that's not really true dude a lot of bodycams videos are just not released until after an investigation is over which might takes years. The best is when they say dont shoot them to kill. Shoot them in the leg or arm. --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 6:43:58 PM #68: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings You are arguing hindsight, which is invalid. Cops don't have Mewtwo powers and can see into the future. The cop can't read minds and is not fully aware of someone's intent. The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Tragic situation, but justified, because hindsight isn't an argument I am not a law professor. And if you had been deployed, you wouldn't be saying the things you were saying ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:44:02 PM #69: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings The cop who killed Philando Castille.... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 01/07/18 6:45:17 PM #70: |
not__shawn__z posted...
darkjedilink posted...Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone? US soldiers are not able to engage in a gun fight unless they either are fired upon and have confirmed the targets who fired on them OR else they have to work up an escalation chain and generally it will cap shy of using guns because forcing somebody to work with you to give over possible intelligence only harms the perception of our soldiers and hurts the overall mission. It's only if they have orders to, no matter what, bring that person in for info that they may have to engage in an altercation. The police can roll up onto a scene, weapons drawn and fire on somebodh and not have tried to issue a command or announce that they're police before that. If the police feel anything could possibly be a violent reaction or resistance (like how bodies recoil when slammed against hard objects like cars or the ground), they can fire on the person. Hit the wrong person? Investigation will clear them and they get paid vacation in the meantime, or else get removed from the case. No real punishment. Meanwhile if a military service member makes a mistake like that? They'll probably be confined to quarters and face an inquiry and potential court-martial for improper behavior. No slap on the wrists. And if they did kill civilians and it wasn't a situation that merited it? They're going to military prison. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:45:29 PM #71: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Wow the dumbest post i have seen to date --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:46:18 PM #72: |
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings Oh you see Castille was illegally carrying a gun and iirc the cop told him NOT to move at all --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 01/07/18 6:46:58 PM #73: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...Patchwork posted...You're so anti-cop it's hilarious. Uh, didn't you say you live in California? --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 01/07/18 6:48:12 PM #74: |
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings He lawfully owned the gun and had the paperwork to prove it --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:48:46 PM #75: |
gunplagirl posted...
KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings I said he was illegally carrying. Pay attention buddy --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:50:53 PM #76: |
KingCrabCake posted...
gunplagirl posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...it was legally a justified shootings How was he illegally carrying? He legally owned the gun, and he had a concealed-carry permit. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 6:51:12 PM #77: |
gunplagirl posted...
not__shawn__z posted...darkjedilink posted...Are you really going to tell me that you implicitly trust a government entity that can more easily kill an unarmed citizen without physical provocation than a soldier or Marine can kill an enemy combatant in an active war zone? Huge generalizations on both accounts my man. A lot of dishonesty there too. Yes, military has a policy. Just as police do. They don't just roll up and fire at people, no policy welcomes that, in any department in America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 01/07/18 6:51:37 PM #78: |
The police can lie to you, yes. You also have the right to remain silent. Which you should absolutely exercise if the police start talking to you.
--- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:52:11 PM #79: |
darkjedilink posted...
He was high af and guess whats one of the rules of having a concealed carry permit...come on take a guess?? Oh and An audio recording captured Castile telling Yanez he had a gun in the car, and the officer telling Castile not to reach for it. Seconds later, Yanez opened fire Thinking emoji --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 6:52:31 PM #80: |
not__shawn__z posted...
The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. The cop gave him two orders One was to get his wallet, which he was obeying. The other was not to reach for his gun, which he was also obeying. Odds are he would have shot him either way because he was ignoring his demand to get his license. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:54:21 PM #81: |
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted... He wasn't "high as fuck." He had such a low THC amount in his system that, if it was any lower, it wouldn't have registered. And, yeah, the cop told him not to reach for it, but the only person who said he reached for it? The cop who killed him, and not literally any of the other people who saw the whole thing. And he changed his story on that detail a whole bunch of times. Which means he's lying. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:54:28 PM #82: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. The audio shows that once he mentioned he had a gun he told him to stop moving...which he disobeyed --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:55:30 PM #83: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Because he was told to get his wallet... You're defending a cop who killed a man who broke precisely zero laws at the time of his death. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 6:55:53 PM #84: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Because if he stopped moving he'd be disobeying the previous order. It's literally impossible to obey all a cop's orders because they shout multiple contradictory ones. What about the classic don't move/get on the ground/hands on your head/crawl towards me/stay perfectly still crap they use to justify shooting people on the ground? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:55:57 PM #85: |
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted... Lets see cop smelled the pot. Videos of him and his trash gf surfaced of numeroes blunt rides with the kid in the back. And the screening showed up he was high...he was illegally carrying. Guess who's story also changed....the trash gf Also link to the drug screening please --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reis 01/07/18 6:57:01 PM #86: |
KingCrabCake posted...
And the screening showed up he was high. KingCrabCake posted... Also link to the drug screening please Lmao Stop wasting your time with this clown please ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:57:22 PM #87: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there. --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:57:33 PM #88: |
KingCrabCake posted...
darkjedilink posted...KingCrabCake posted...darkjedilink posted... He didn't "smell pot." Marijuana didn't come up as a defense until the trial, AFTER blood tests proved he had THC in his system - a test that, if his THC count was any lower at all, would have been negative. Oh, and the test didn't show "he was high," because that's not what's tested. The test showed that THC is in his system, which, depending on what test was used, can show drugs still in your system YEARS later. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 6:58:43 PM #89: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there. Why shouldn't it have been there? I thought you people were all for people having guns. Is it because he's black? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:58:49 PM #90: |
@reis posted...
KingCrabCake posted...And the screening showed up he was high. Im a clown because i want to see the link. Im having a conversation with someone who has information on the subject that i may have gotten wrong. I understand you're not mature, intelligent, or relevant but you dont need to chime and get embarrassed --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 6:59:09 PM #91: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Dude, you think a chemical test proves he was high. The only law you argue is clearly in your mom's basement. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 6:59:25 PM #92: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there. Cause he was high. Im sorry you're racist and make everything about race --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 01/07/18 6:59:56 PM #93: |
r4X0r posted...
The police can lie to you, yes. You also have the right to remain silent. Which you should absolutely exercise if the police start talking to you. That's if you're being mirandised. Which means you must be in the middle of something you probably shouldn't be doing. Screaming about your rights like when you get pulled over for speeding is just someone being a jackass --- Cubs, Rockies, Grizzlies, Patriots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reis 01/07/18 7:00:07 PM #94: |
@KingCrabCake
Sorry Hoth I'm not dumb enough to get baited into arguing with you so I'll just laugh at how dumb you are ... Copied to Clipboard!
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not__shawn__z 01/07/18 7:00:20 PM #95: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Again, invalid argument. The cop doesn't know what he's reaching for. The cop doesn't know where exactly the gun is. The cop does know he disobeyed 3 direct orders to stop reaching. That is an extremely bad sign -before- you take into account the location of the incident; right outside the worst gun homicide rate in the country A life lesson to the under 18 crowd that don't live in NY/CA/NJ/other blue states. It's completely asinine, to inform a cop that you are carrying, and then not only reach and make sudden movements, but to continue to do so after 3 direct orders. Mr. Castilo owned the firearm legally (not sure what the other guy is talking about), and as a legal firearm owner he is completely aware of the seriousness of those actions. You say you have a gun, and you do not move. You follow whatever directions they give you, and nothing else ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/07/18 7:00:40 PM #96: |
Reis posted...
KingCrabCake posted...And the screening showed up he was high. Pretty much. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 7:00:47 PM #97: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Its pretty obvious why there was a second order given...because a gun came into play. A gun that shouldnt have been there. Even if that were true, which you have literally no proof of besides a tiny amount of it being in his system from god knows when, what's wrong with him being high? Laws against weed are wrong and should all be abolished ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 7:01:00 PM #98: |
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...KingCrabCake posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...not__shawn__z posted...The cop however is aware of the fact that he told this person to stop reaching, three times, all of which castilo unfortunately disobeyed. Um. I think he was high because the reports where he had thc in his blood, videos of him going on blunt rides with a 3 yr old surfaced, & the cop smelled it. You can try to throw insults around but its clear you are only insulting me because you may be wrong here --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 01/07/18 7:01:18 PM #99: |
not__shawn__z posted...
You say you have a gun, and you do not move. You follow whatever directions they give you, and nothing else He was following the direction he was given, to get his license ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/07/18 7:01:51 PM #100: |
Reis posted...
@KingCrabCake Im not hoth. And idc if you debate with me or not. Just pointing put how pathetic and ignorant you are. --- Waaaah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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