Current Events > California says suck it to GOP. Changing Tax laws so we can deduct our taxes

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CruelBuffalo
01/04/18 8:50:17 PM
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Damn_Underscore
01/04/18 8:52:15 PM
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This seems like something a conservative government would think of - paying all your taxes to the state instead of to the federal government
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SageHarpuia
01/04/18 8:53:08 PM
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Can we just let them succeed already?
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CruelBuffalo
01/04/18 8:53:45 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?


And lose the 6th largest economy in the world? Lol
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Waluigi7
01/04/18 8:54:06 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?

What state do you live in?
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TheVipaGTS
01/04/18 8:56:31 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?

can't tell if you used the wrong word or actually want us to do good...
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jumi
01/04/18 8:57:11 PM
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They're already succeeding.
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SageHarpuia
01/04/18 8:58:10 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?


And lose the 6th largest economy in the world? Lol

You really think they won't want to rejoin when their little welfare state inevitably collapses?
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 8:58:53 PM
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California is such a joke. We shouldnt give them any federal aid
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 9:00:30 PM
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Give a person AIDS on purpose..Cali is like who cares...

Use the "wrong" gender pronoun...Cali is like JAIL
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thronedfire2
01/04/18 9:03:22 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?


And lose the 6th largest economy in the world? Lol

You really think they won't want to rejoin when their little welfare state inevitably collapses?


The rest of the US would starve before that happens
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ThePrinceFish
01/04/18 9:06:43 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?


And lose the 6th largest economy in the world? Lol

You really think they won't want to rejoin when their little welfare state inevitably collapses?


The rest of the US would starve before that happens

California runs out of water first
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leviamon2
01/04/18 9:07:53 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Can we just let them succeed already?


And lose the 6th largest economy in the world? Lol

You really think they won't want to rejoin when their little welfare state inevitably collapses?

don't you live in the south?
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ExtremeLuchador
01/04/18 9:07:56 PM
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To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 9:12:13 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt
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Zeeak4444
01/04/18 9:26:15 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 9:28:29 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?


I lived in Cali from 19-22 years old. Nice try buddy.
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Behaviorism
01/04/18 9:30:19 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
California is such a joke. We shouldnt give them any federal aid

New York is worse. The entire syatesis broke because we pay for NYC. I hate that city so much.
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A_Good_Boy
01/04/18 9:30:49 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?


I lived in Cali from 19-22 years old. Nice try buddy.

Sick dodge bro
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 9:33:19 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?


I lived in Cali from 19-22 years old. Nice try buddy.

Sick dodge bro


Nah never lived in dodge.
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PIITB415
01/04/18 9:33:37 PM
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Lol at all the poor kids who don't live in California. Honestly, it's amazing here except for the annoying liberals and in your face genders, but other than that who cares? It's great if you have a good job and enjoy some of the best views in the world.
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Zeeak4444
01/04/18 9:34:34 PM
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@KingCrabCake posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?


I lived in Cali from 19-22 years old. Nice try buddy.

Sick dodge bro


Nah never lived in dodge.


Still waiting for that source btw.
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TheVipaGTS
01/04/18 9:36:32 PM
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why do so many dorks on CE think the entirety of California is "Straight out of Compton meets San Francisco"?...you guys know the state is incredibly huge and diverse, right?
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KingCrabCake
01/04/18 9:37:21 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
@KingCrabCake posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


Can you source a single time it's been enforced?

God the envy from you guys is too much. Instead of being bitter why not just move out to the west coast and get out of hicktown for a few.

In all reality I'm expecting like NY or something, likely urban. Maybe chitown?


I lived in Cali from 19-22 years old. Nice try buddy.

Sick dodge bro


Nah never lived in dodge.


Still waiting for that source btw.


What source
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Tropicalwood
01/04/18 9:39:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G56VgsLfKY4

Looks like the IRS is going to get 163,696 mi of prime real estate.
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dave_is_slick
01/04/18 9:44:29 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
why do so many dorks on CE think the entirety of California is "Straight out of Compton meets San Francisco"?...you guys know the state is incredibly huge and diverse, right?

Because they're hella jealous.
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Polycosm
01/04/18 9:52:07 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
California is such a joke. We shouldnt give them any federal aid

California is a donor state.

Anyway, I don't see the IRS allowing this to stand. It's possible but not likely, imo.
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Annihilated
01/04/18 9:58:52 PM
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Suck it, California. You want to tax your own residents at a super high rate and expect the tax payers in other states to foot the bill? Kiss my ass, moochers.
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Waluigi7
01/04/18 10:02:56 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Suck it, California. You want to tax your own residents at a super high rate and expect the tax payers in other states to foot the bill? Kiss my ass, moochers.

What state do you live in?
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TheVipaGTS
01/04/18 10:04:22 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Kiss my ass, moochers.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-state-local-tax-subsidy-20171029-story.html
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UncleBourbon33
01/04/18 10:08:52 PM
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I live in California unfortunately.
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Darkman124
01/04/18 10:24:19 PM
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this would be very, very far from the most unethical 'charity' listed on schedule A.

for the very first time, it would functionally allow regular people to exploit loopholes in charity-related tax law that normally are only available to the super rich.
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Polycosm
01/05/18 2:39:09 AM
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Annihilated posted...
Suck it, California. You want to tax your own residents at a super high rate and expect the tax payers in other states to foot the bill? Kiss my ass, moochers.

California is more than paying its own bill. Again, California is a donor state. It pays more to the Federal government than it receives.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/05/18 2:44:55 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
for the very first time, it would functionally allow regular people to exploit loopholes in charity-related tax law that normally are only available to the super rich.

Probably why Republicans are all butthurt about it tbh
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RoseIsHorriblle
01/05/18 2:56:13 AM
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Companies will move out of California if they raise the taxes. Silicon Valley will get rekt. Austin is already creating its own Silicon Valley.
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Perascamin
01/05/18 2:58:50 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
why do so many dorks on CE think the entirety of California is "Straight out of Compton meets San Francisco"?...you guys know the state is incredibly huge and diverse, right?

Because So Cal thinks it is ALL of California
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CruelBuffalo
01/05/18 3:07:41 AM
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RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Companies will move out of California if they raise the taxes. Silicon Valley will get rekt. Austin is already creating its own Silicon Valley.


Theyve said that for the past 20 years.

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/
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ExtremeLuchador
01/05/18 4:03:44 AM
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I know many former Ohioans now working and living better lifestyles in California.
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Milkman5
01/05/18 4:06:22 AM
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California is an impending disaster. It only survives as an economy on the co-tails of the tech boom.
Once I graduate, I'm moving out before Cali goes to complete shit from their terrible government.
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RoseIsHorriblle
01/05/18 5:17:15 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Companies will move out of California if they raise the taxes. Silicon Valley will get rekt. Austin is already creating its own Silicon Valley.


Theyve said that for the past 20 years.

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/
But youre doing great sweetie

Literally politifact. LMAO. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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nicklebro
01/05/18 5:28:56 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
California is an impending disaster. It only survives as an economy on the co-tails of the tech boom.
Once I graduate, I'm moving out before Cali goes to complete shit from their terrible government.

Lmao these kids are hilarious.

RoseIsHorriblle posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Companies will move out of California if they raise the taxes. Silicon Valley will get rekt. Austin is already creating its own Silicon Valley.


Theyve said that for the past 20 years.

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/
But youre doing great sweetie

Literally politifact. LMAO. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Man, the fake laughing in all caps pretty much ensures you're not gonna trick anyone into thinking this was an actual response. If you had just been able to hold back a tiny bit then sure, maybe someone actually buys your excuse that facts cease being facts if they're posted by a website you don't like. But you ruined that with your overzealous behavior
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Blue_Dream87
01/05/18 7:40:02 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


As a Californian, all of my friends have been arrested for using the wrong pronoun. I myself only dodged the bullet because the arresting officer assumed my gender and we made a deal.
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ACHEEKSMALLOY
01/05/18 8:01:54 AM
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Hoping for an escape from la scenario where California breaks off from the country and becomes a prison island
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KingCrabCake
01/05/18 8:50:48 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


As a Californian, all of my friends have been arrested for using the wrong pronoun. I myself only dodged the bullet because the arresting officer assumed my gender and we made a deal.


Whoosh
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sktgamer_13dude
01/05/18 5:23:56 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


As a Californian, all of my friends have been arrested for using the wrong pronoun. I myself only dodged the bullet because the arresting officer assumed my gender and we made a deal.


Whoosh

I think youre the one who got whooshd but w/e
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__Y2JosHBK___
01/05/18 5:25:08 PM
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No wonder they literally survive off the rest of the countries tax dollars. Surfing and eating kale is fun and all but it's not grounded in reality.
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s0nicfan
01/05/18 5:27:35 PM
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The Republican tax plan gives corporations and hedge-fund managers a trillion-dollar tax cut and expects California taxpayers to foot the bill, De Len, also a candidate for U.S. Senate, said in a statement Thursday. We wont allow California residents to be the casualty of this disastrous tax scheme.

The $10,000 cap is especially unpopular in high-cost, high-tax states such as California, New York and New Jersey. In California, the millions of taxpayers who itemize averaged a state and local tax deduction of $22,000 in 2015, according to the Department of Finance.


There's something inherently ironic about one of the bluest states in the country countering a federal tax mandate by turning local taxes into voluntary donations because people writing off tens of thousands of dollars are somehow poor in CA? Isn't this basically what someone like Ron Paul would have wanted?
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Zeeak4444
01/05/18 5:29:29 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
ExtremeLuchador posted...
To people complaining about the HIV spreading law. It's impossible and too expensive to actually enforce. It's like the "failure to report a Felony" law in Ohio that nobody gets arrested for ever.


But the pronoun law isnt


As a Californian, all of my friends have been arrested for using the wrong pronoun. I myself only dodged the bullet because the arresting officer assumed my gender and we made a deal.


Lol that was pretty good.
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Zeeak4444
01/05/18 5:32:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The Republican tax plan gives corporations and hedge-fund managers a trillion-dollar tax cut and expects California taxpayers to foot the bill, De Len, also a candidate for U.S. Senate, said in a statement Thursday. We wont allow California residents to be the casualty of this disastrous tax scheme.

The $10,000 cap is especially unpopular in high-cost, high-tax states such as California, New York and New Jersey. In California, the millions of taxpayers who itemize averaged a state and local tax deduction of $22,000 in 2015, according to the Department of Finance.


There's something inherently ironic about one of the bluest states in the country countering a federal tax mandate by turning local taxes into voluntary donations because people writing off tens of thousands of dollars are somehow poor in CA? Isn't this basically what someone like Ron Paul would have wanted?


I think you're completely in the wrong here and I think you know it TBH.

The bolded really gives it away.
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Darkman124
01/05/18 5:33:28 PM
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s0nicfan posted...

There's something inherently ironic about one of the bluest states in the country countering a federal tax mandate by turning local taxes into voluntary donations because people writing off tens of thousands of dollars are somehow poor in CA? Isn't this basically what someone like Ron Paul would have wanted?


the issue is largely that a middle class salary in CA is different from a middle class salary in idaho. with CA property values what they are, every middle class home is going to accrue a lot of local tax, and the state tax would with that easily break 10,000.

but the same cap is applied to both regions, effectively taxing CA to pay ID.

and as stated, rich people abuse the charitable donation deduction frequently, so i don't really have an issue with CA skirting the GOP-placed law

whether it stands up in court remains to be seen but if it does tough shit, your bill won't pay for itself and will have to crumble early
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