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Nightengale
01/03/18 4:30:23 PM
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i'm getting $14.85/hour now. that's almost a three dollar raise B)
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Lokarin
01/03/18 4:30:58 PM
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Sweet. It's nice that you're healthy enough to work
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Nightengale
01/03/18 4:32:26 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Sweet. It's nice that you're healthy enough to work

i'm a socialist, i support no one having to work whether they can or not, but i don't mind working
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Lokarin
01/03/18 4:54:51 PM
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Me too, but I feel, like, like - I don't care about money... but I want to be helpful.
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likehelly
01/03/18 5:01:25 PM
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shit, that's pretty decent.

though it is canada
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Mead
01/03/18 5:03:46 PM
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How much is it in actual dollars
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Jen0125
01/03/18 5:04:30 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Me too, but I feel, like, like - I don't care about money... but I want to be helpful.


why don't you volunteer to do something instead of sitting around all day? if you can work because of a disability, fine but you could volunteer to help out somewhere.
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DirtBasedSoap
01/03/18 5:07:00 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Lokarin posted...
Sweet. It's nice that you're healthy enough to work

i support no one having to work whether they can or not

i feel like Im reading this wrong. Can you explain what you mean by this?
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Lokarin
01/03/18 5:07:50 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Me too, but I feel, like, like - I don't care about money... but I want to be helpful.


why don't you volunteer to do something instead of sitting around all day? if you can work because of a disability, fine but you could volunteer to help out somewhere.


I used to, i've been ill-er these last two years - I could look back into it.
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Jen0125
01/03/18 5:10:03 PM
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if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work
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Lokarin
01/03/18 5:10:25 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


:<
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likehelly
01/03/18 5:13:07 PM
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what are you ill with, lok?
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Lokarin
01/03/18 5:14:40 PM
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likehelly posted...
what are you ill with, lok?


I don't wanna hijack the topic any further - but I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and started taking medication about 2 years ago. It completely remotes all my fears and anxiety, which is nice, but I live in a permanent brain fog and it's hard to think/concentrate/pay attention/remember things
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likehelly
01/03/18 5:15:18 PM
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oh. i didn't know that.

is that why you put ham slices on a taco?
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Lokarin
01/03/18 5:16:34 PM
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likehelly posted...
oh. i didn't know that.

is that why you put ham slices on a taco?


Gosh dangit - I remember that. That's ALL I HAD ON HAND!
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Ferarri619
01/03/18 5:17:35 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.
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likehelly
01/03/18 5:26:55 PM
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Lokarin posted...
likehelly posted...
oh. i didn't know that.

is that why you put ham slices on a taco?


Gosh dangit - I remember that. That's ALL I HAD ON HAND!

you literally made tacos though! you had everything for tacos!

AND THEN YOU PUT A SLICE OF HAM IN IT
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Smarkil
01/03/18 5:28:55 PM
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Lokarin posted...
likehelly posted...
oh. i didn't know that.

is that why you put ham slices on a taco?


Gosh dangit - I remember that. That's ALL I HAD ON HAND!


seriously tho who tf puts ham on a taco?
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Jen0125
01/03/18 5:29:54 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...

Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.


that doesn't have anything to do with what i said.
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Nightengale
01/03/18 7:09:12 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

that doesn't have anything to do with what i said.

also what hes talking about was a localized issue that was dealt with years ago
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Lokarin
01/03/18 7:11:42 PM
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I'm sorry, I have a habit of derailing topics
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Nightengale
01/03/18 7:13:25 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Nightengale posted...
Lokarin posted...
Sweet. It's nice that you're healthy enough to work

i support no one having to work whether they can or not

i feel like Im reading this wrong. Can you explain what you mean by this?

I mean its pretty straightforward? No one should have to work to meet the basic needs of survival. To that end I support programs like basic income and increased taxes on the wealthy to support this.

Of course you still need labor under that system, but its to help the population instead of the wealthy. Theyre already testing out basic income here in Ontario. So I dont mind working since Im able to.
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Ogurisama
01/03/18 7:15:58 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

Yeah, it did become such a problem, one Edmonton McDonald's was forced to close down because of breaking the law with the foreign worker thing. They basically fired all their Canadian staff (citing they didnt need that much staff) and replaced all of them of Filipino workers
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Nightengale
01/03/18 7:17:05 PM
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Nobody cares about Alberta stop hijacking my topic
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 7:19:47 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

Yeah, it did become such a problem, one Edmonton McDonald's was forced to close down because of breaking the law with the foreign worker thing. They basically fired all their Canadian staff (citing they didnt need that much staff) and replaced all of them of Filipino workers

Why wouldn't they when they were able to offer the TFW below minimum wage? Yay capitalism

There were major issues where I live of people abusing the system. Business owners that own homes were employing people below minimum wage and getting that meager bit of earnings back by charging room and board, threatening to revoke the work permits for employees that wouldn't go along with it.

It was not just atrocious for human rights, it bottomed out the wages offered across many industries.
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EclairReturns
01/03/18 7:20:12 PM
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likehelly posted...
you had everything for tacos!

AND THEN YOU PUT A SLICE OF HAM IN IT


To be fair, you did put eggs on a pizza.
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Jen0125
01/03/18 7:20:40 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
likehelly posted...
you had everything for tacos!

AND THEN YOU PUT A SLICE OF HAM IN IT


To be fair, you did put eggs on a pizza.


he only did it as a bet tho
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 7:23:02 PM
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Lokarin also used manwich sauce on pasta lol

Something I hope he won't repeat
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Ogurisama
01/03/18 7:24:01 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Ogurisama posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

Yeah, it did become such a problem, one Edmonton McDonald's was forced to close down because of breaking the law with the foreign worker thing. They basically fired all their Canadian staff (citing they didnt need that much staff) and replaced all of them of Filipino workers

Why wouldn't they when they were able to offer the TFW below minimum wage? Yay capitalism

There were major issues where I live of people abusing the system. Business owners that own homes were employing people below minimum wage and getting that meager bit of earnings back by charging room and board, threatening to revoke the work permits for employees that wouldn't go along with it.

It was not just atrocious for human rights, it bottomed out the wages offered across many industries.

Yet, part of the program was saying you cant fire existing staff to bring them in
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Lokarin
01/03/18 7:25:06 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin also used manwich sauce on pasta lol

Something I hope he won't repeat


The can implied there was meat in the sauce
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 7:27:44 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Ogurisama posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

Yeah, it did become such a problem, one Edmonton McDonald's was forced to close down because of breaking the law with the foreign worker thing. They basically fired all their Canadian staff (citing they didnt need that much staff) and replaced all of them of Filipino workers

Why wouldn't they when they were able to offer the TFW below minimum wage? Yay capitalism

There were major issues where I live of people abusing the system. Business owners that own homes were employing people below minimum wage and getting that meager bit of earnings back by charging room and board, threatening to revoke the work permits for employees that wouldn't go along with it.

It was not just atrocious for human rights, it bottomed out the wages offered across many industries.

Yet, part of the program was saying you cant fire existing staff to bring them in

Can't fire them... Can schedule them so terribly the Canadians can't continue to work for you and support themselves. It was really bad here.

It sucks that they only got in trouble for firing Canadians and not for the mass scale indentured servitude that made many wealthy people a lot more wealthy.
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faramir77
01/03/18 7:28:00 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
if you're too ill to even volunteer you're probably too ill to work


Nah. This is Canada, and here over the past decade or so we've had a Foreign worker program implemented because of labor shortage, and all the corporations abuse it to hell and back, so they all hire foreign workers instead of Canadian workers.
What was supposed to be a program to help labor shortage eventually took a complete 180 and now it's almost impossible for us to get jobs.
If our government doesn't want us to have jobs then fuck it.

Yeah, it did become such a problem, one Edmonton McDonald's was forced to close down because of breaking the law with the foreign worker thing. They basically fired all their Canadian staff (citing they didnt need that much staff) and replaced all of them of Filipino workers


It was one of the Lethbridge McDonald's that made it a national conversation. A guy was fired and then replaced with a TFW.
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 7:28:09 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin also used manwich sauce on pasta lol

Something I hope he won't repeat


The can implied there was meat in the sauce

Read the ingredients. A lesson that should be learned pretty early on.
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Lokarin
01/03/18 9:17:56 PM
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 9:21:58 PM
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Seems like a shitty exploitative franchise owner. Working at a nonprofit charity we've dealt with the minimum wage hikes here and there's not any extra profits to cover them. Workers didn't get the shaft. But any business will use any reason within the law to avoid paying fair wages.
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Nightengale
01/03/18 10:48:00 PM
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not just any shitty franchise owner, the DAUGHTER OF TIM HORTON HIMSELF
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 10:50:34 PM
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Nightengale posted...
not just any shitty franchise owner, the DAUGHTER OF TIM HORTON HIMSELF

Seriously? Good gravy

I rarely go to Tim's these days, extra reason not to
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Nightengale
01/03/18 10:52:18 PM
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it's hard to find coffee shops that aren't tims around here. i have about four within walking distance. they've basically pushed out everyone else except maybe starbucks. but they definitely can't afford to pay their employees
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Blighboy
01/03/18 10:54:16 PM
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Not sure why I just completed a bunch of education if I can now work at Tim's and make basically as much money.
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Nightengale
01/03/18 10:54:48 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Not sure why I just completed a bunch of education if I can now work at Tim's and make basically as much money.

what did you go to school for?
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likehelly
01/03/18 10:54:57 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin also used manwich sauce on pasta lol

Something I hope he won't repeat

well that

that could be okay
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Nightengale
01/03/18 10:59:14 PM
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manwich sauce is just tomato sauce isn't it?
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likehelly
01/03/18 11:00:50 PM
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it mainly is, but it's quite a different taste to regular pasta sauce

man, i haven't had sloppy joes in years
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 11:03:24 PM
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It's also really watery compared to a good tomato sauce. Somewhat sweet and it has a few different spices not in most pasta sauce. I wouldn't put a can of manwich sauce on pasta but I would put cooked up sloppy joe filling on pasta.
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likehelly
01/03/18 11:04:52 PM
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i wouldn't do it, either, but if it accidentally happened i don't see it being too terrible

and putting sloppy joes on pasta would just make it goulash
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Doctor Foxx
01/03/18 11:07:13 PM
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Never in my life have I had goulash with pasta in it. It's a stew... Or a soup. Either way.

Americans I guess
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likehelly
01/03/18 11:18:07 PM
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ye, american goulash isn't like goulash proper
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RoboXgp89
01/03/18 11:28:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Oopsie

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/tim-horton-s-tims-timmies-doubledouble-minimum-wage-ontario-kathleen-wynne-labour-1.4470215


I have no problem with full time workers being able to afford uhm housing
but the min wage hike is nothing more then inflation,it actually raises the cost of living for everyone and makes us poorer and less likely to retire
capitalism just does that to it's workers
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Nightengale
01/03/18 11:29:10 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
capitalism just does that to it's workers

Exactly. The whole system needs to change. Minimum wage increases are a bandaid, but they're nice in the short-term.
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supergamer19
01/03/18 11:35:50 PM
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We're looking at 60, 000 jobs predicted to be lost because of the increase AND starting this year, the insane change in Qualification Standards to get a mortgage, yet somehow, the value of houses is still supposed to sky rocket???

I don't get it. I need a housing market crash, Toronto.
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