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Vertania posted...

Literally not what he said, though. You keep cherry picking quotes from him out of context to work yourself up into an outrage.

The "gene pool" thing was about immigrants not assimilating. They clarified that in the interview seconds after the quote you're talking about. He said he would be fine with different races coming in and "messing up the gene pool" (as you put it) as long as they assimilated to the culture. But of course you don't care about that because it's much easier to just call everybody racist KKK Nazis.

I took nothing out of context. I gave you damn quotes.

Tell me how did I misquote when he lied about the African Crime rate.

I swear if someone burnt a fucking cross on someone's lawn you would say they just hated the lower case t.
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cjsdowg posted...

I took nothing out of context. I gave you damn quotes.

Yeah, out-of-context quotes lol.

If you click the citation numbers after quotes in post #41's link, it takes you to where in the interview the quote came from. You have to watch a few seconds before/after the quote to understand some of them. That's what the word "context" means.

Vertania posted...

cjsdowg posted...

I took nothing out of context. I gave you damn quotes.

Yeah, out-of-context quotes lol.

If you click the citation numbers after quotes in post #41's link, it takes you to where in the interview the quote came from. You have to watch a few seconds before/after the quote to understand some of them. That's what the word "context" means.

Tell me how did I misquote when he lied about the African Crime rate.
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Soyboy is the lamest insult ever.
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Vertania is tagged as a racist for a reason tbh
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Now it does not bother me if JonTron has more views then ProJared. Honestly I find both of them funny. I prefer ProJared but that's just because I like his content better. Now I do think Jontron is a racist and a sexist given his comments but as long as he leaves his personal opinions out of his show I will still watch him.

JonTron has nearly four times as many subscribers as ProJared so of course he would have more views then him. While it is a popularity contest really it's not a fair one. JT is on a whole different level then PJ.

Soyboy? really what does that even mean? When I was a kid me and my sister made up a crappy jingle for a made up soy sauce called Soyboy.
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Samurontai posted...

Vertania is tagged as a racist for a reason tbh

Vertania posted...

because it's much easier to just call everybody racist KKK Nazis

creativerealms posted...

Now it does not bother me if JonTron has more views then ProJared. Honestly I find both of them funny. I prefer ProJared but that's just because I like his content better. Now I do think Jontron is a racist and a sexist given his comments but as long as he leaves his personal opinions out of his show I will still watch him.

JonTron has nearly four times as many subscribers as ProJared so of course he would have more views then him. While it is a popularity contest really it's not a fair one. JT is on a whole different level then PJ.

Soyboy? really what does that even mean? When I was a kid me and my sister made up a crappy jingle for a made up soy sauce called Soyboy.

This is exactly the kind of post I expect from a ProJared fan tbqh

cjsdowg posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

Other stuff? Everybody rags on him for that specific quote he made so I assumed that's all he did.

Talked about wanting to have racial purity when it comes to the nation.

I don't think a pure society's possible, but in terms of a demographic majority, I don't know that a nation can exist without one. This truly, "multicultural, every single person is a different [laughs] thing or race or religion", I don't know if that's really sustainable long term.[

Discounted all of the work non white people did in Making America what she is today.

You can't make the argument that whites should be okay with them becoming a minority in the country their ancestors built if it doesn't apply to other countries.

Talked about the bull shit of the white man being displaced.

They [whites] are not being killed, but they're being displaced. You are the same guy who says that Europeans displaced the native Americans but apparently, when other people do it to white Americans, it's okay because fuck white people.[

Linked black people with crime and tried to do this by saying that crime rate in Africa is all the same... it is not.

So I suppose that's why the crime rates are pretty consistent across Africa, too

Last thing I am going to bring up. He complained about brown people assimilating since they would enter the gene pool.

Yeah, but if they assimilated, they would enter the gene pool eventually and would just... you know.

Wow, almost none of this says what you're trying to convince people it says.
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Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

Wow, almost none of this says what you're trying to convince people it says.

So tell me how I am wrong on each of my points? Since to most people, what he said was clearly racist and shit.
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For one, he doesn't talk about "wanting racial purity". He's talking about demographic majorities. He doesn't even say he wants it, just that he thinks a country can't exist without one.

Two, he didn't discount anything.

Three, his phrasing is probably a bit extreme, but it's not entirely wrong, either.

Four, he didn't say crime across africa is "all the same" he said it's "pretty consistent". Two very different things.

Five, with the contextless blurb you quoted, it's just as likely he's complaining that they're NOT assimilating as it is that he's complaining that they are assimilating.

The first and fifth make you look the most dishonest, the rest just look like you're reaching because you want to be offended and want others to be offended with you.
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Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

For one, he doesn't talk about "wanting racial purity". He's talking about demographic majorities. He doesn't even say he wants it, just that he thinks a country can't exist without one.

He starts of by lamenting that fact that we can not have pure society ( his words) Then bitches about multiculturalism.

He discount all there other people beside white people who help to build this nation. He said the nation that their ancestors built. Heck for many African-Americans they can trance their lineage in America longer then many white people.

So you agree with the bullshit of the poor displaced white man. This is literally the same line that people used in the days of slavery and the Civil Rights era .

If you are trying to say that he meant that the whole of African crime stays the same. That doesn't fit with his argument he was making. Moreover since the crime and African dramatically different depending on what nation you are in, the literally means nothing.

The first and fifth make you look the most dishonest, the rest just look like you're reaching because you want to be offended and want others to be offended with you.

You explanations just make you like a racist who will defend trash. And I could not care less if people like you fain offense. I know what you are about.
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...

creativerealms posted...

Now it does not bother me if JonTron has more views then ProJared. Honestly I find both of them funny. I prefer ProJared but that's just because I like his content better. Now I do think Jontron is a racist and a sexist given his comments but as long as he leaves his personal opinions out of his show I will still watch him.

JonTron has nearly four times as many subscribers as ProJared so of course he would have more views then him. While it is a popularity contest really it's not a fair one. JT is on a whole different level then PJ.

Soyboy? really what does that even mean? When I was a kid me and my sister made up a crappy jingle for a made up soy sauce called Soyboy.

This is exactly the kind of post I expect from a ProJared fan tbqh

So basically you expect us to be reasonable people? thanks.
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I watched a ProJared video about Splatoon or something and his delivery was utterly unfunny.
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Jared is incredibly boring and bland. So, no?
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I keep forgetting that I'm actually subbed to Jabroni Jared.
Maybe if he put out content more regularly, he wouldn't have these problems.
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I follow Jon for his entertainment videos, not his opinions on race.

Still, knowing some people are horribly butthurt by my liking him amuses me.
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cjsdowg posted...

Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

For one, he doesn't talk about "wanting racial purity". He's talking about demographic majorities. He doesn't even say he wants it, just that he thinks a country can't exist without one.

He starts of by lamenting that fact that we can not have pure society ( his words) Then bitches about multiculturalism.

He discount all there other people beside white people who help to build this nation. He said the nation that their ancestors built. Heck for many African-Americans they can trance their lineage in America longer then many white people.

So you agree with the bullshit of the poor displaced white man. This is literally the same line that people used in the days of slavery and the Civil Rights era .

If you are trying to say that he meant that the whole of African crime stays the same. That doesn't fit with his argument he was making. Moreover since the crime and African dramatically different depending on what nation you are in, the literally means nothing.

The first and fifth make you look the most dishonest, the rest just look like you're reaching because you want to be offended and want others to be offended with you.

You explanations just make you like a racist who will defend trash. And I could not care less if people like you fain offense. I know what you are about.

You say he's lamenting, but it just looks like a statement to me.

Just because he isn't speaking about them doesn't mean he's discounting them. Just like when you say you like an actor's role in a film, you're not discounting the writers that wrote his part.

I said it was extreme, not that I disagree. It's not something I've payed any attention to, so I have no opinion.

Yes, my explanations, which never mentioned race in any way, certainly make me look racist. As for being offended? No, offense is taken, not given, and I have nothing to take offense at. I don't even know what led you to think I was offended, feigned or authentic. Mostly I'm just confused, and maybe a bit sorry for you.
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Heh! Its upsetting but Im much more successful at being cute! *peace*!
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Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

You say he's lamenting, but it just looks like a statement to me.

Just because he isn't speaking about them doesn't mean he's discounting them. Just like when you say you like an actor's role in a film, you're not discounting the writers that wrote his part.

I said it was extreme, not that I disagree. It's not something I've payed any attention to, so I have no opinion.

Yes, my explanations, which never mentioned race in any way, certainly make me look racist. As for being offended? No, offense is taken, not given, and I have nothing to take offense at. I don't even know what led you to think I was offended, feigned or authentic. Mostly I'm just confused, and maybe a bit sorry for you.

He didn't say what their ancestor help to build. He said what they built. These things have different meanings. If you don't understand this, then I see why you are confused about everything else.
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creativerealms posted...

So basically you expect us to be reasonable people? thanks.

I guess, but I was thinking just dry and bland.

cjsdowg posted...

Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

You say he's lamenting, but it just looks like a statement to me.

Just because he isn't speaking about them doesn't mean he's discounting them. Just like when you say you like an actor's role in a film, you're not discounting the writers that wrote his part.

I said it was extreme, not that I disagree. It's not something I've payed any attention to, so I have no opinion.

Yes, my explanations, which never mentioned race in any way, certainly make me look racist. As for being offended? No, offense is taken, not given, and I have nothing to take offense at. I don't even know what led you to think I was offended, feigned or authentic. Mostly I'm just confused, and maybe a bit sorry for you.

He didn't say what their ancestor help to build. He said what they built. These things have different meanings. If you don't understand this, then I see why you are confused about everything else.

You're just repeating yourself, so I will, too. Just because he didn't mention them, probably because they weren't the topic, doesn't mean he's discounting them. Just because you built something, doesn't mean others weren't involved in building it, also. You just cherry pick what you want to get most offended about.
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No

JonTron is better

His views on races shouldn't make a difference at all about how good he is as a you tuber

If people who say negative things about races get fired, 60% of Americans would be out of a job hahaha
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knuxnole posted...

No

JonTron is better

His views on races shouldn't make a difference at all about how good he is as a you tuber

If people who say negative things about races get fired, 60% of Americans would be out of a job hahaha

Probably more than that.

Everyone is a little racist, technically. It's how the human mind is built. We lump things together into groups to more easily comprehend it.
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I agree

I doubt there is anyone ITT who is completely tolerant, especially on this board
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Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

knuxnole posted...

No

JonTron is better

His views on races shouldn't make a difference at all about how good he is as a you tuber

If people who say negative things about races get fired, 60% of Americans would be out of a job hahaha

Probably more than that.

Everyone is a little racist, technically. It's how the human mind is built. We lump things together into groups to more easily comprehend it.

I don't think that's what racism is...
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KStateKing17 posted...

Ryo_the_Inferno posted...

knuxnole posted...

No

JonTron is better

His views on races shouldn't make a difference at all about how good he is as a you tuber

If people who say negative things about races get fired, 60% of Americans would be out of a job hahaha

Probably more than that.

Everyone is a little racist, technically. It's how the human mind is built. We lump things together into groups to more easily comprehend it.

I don't think that's what racism is...

Racism means prejudice based on race. That's literally all it means.
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