Poll of the Day > Do you think the cop in that c.o.d. swatter case should be charged?

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JebronLames 12/30/17 4:19:49 PM #1:	Do you think the cop who shot they guy in that mistaken swat team call should be charged? yes no View Results You must have heard about this story by now, it's made huge headlines. Apparently the other cod player who was in l.a. has been arrested iirc. He called i a fake hostage situation to a home in kansas and the swat team in KS showed up to the guys house and shot him when he answered the door. --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us, now there's not" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:893133840] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote> Do you think the cop who shot they guy in that mistaken swat team call should be charged? yes no View Results You must have heard about this story by now, it's made huge headlines. Apparently the other cod player who was in l.a. has been arrested iirc. He called i a fake hostage situation to a home in kansas and the swat team in KS showed up to the guys house and shot him when he answered the door.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/30/17 4:21:32 PM #2:	He killed an unarmed and innocent man in front of his family. There are extenuating circumstances in this situation but he should be charged with manslaughter at the very least. The guy who got killed did nothing wrong. --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:893133921] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>He killed an unarmed and innocent man in front of his family. There are extenuating circumstances in this situation but he should be charged with manslaughter at the very least. The guy who got killed did nothing wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JebronLames 12/30/17 4:26:23 PM #3:	Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us, now there's not" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:893134118] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/30/17 4:27:11 PM #4:	JebronLames posted... Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:893134154] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JebronLames 12/30/17 4:28:25 PM #5:	BlackScythe0 posted... JebronLames posted... Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation. i know, you did not get the gist of my sarcasm? --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us, now there's not" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:893134201] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation.</quote> i know, you did not get the gist of my sarcasm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/30/17 4:36:41 PM #6:	the cop didn't do anything he wasn't actually supposed to. it just turned out that the situation was fake. anyone who does this shit needs to get life in prison with no parole. --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:893134576] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>the cop didn't do anything he wasn't actually supposed to. it just turned out that the situation was fake. anyone who does this shit needs to get life in prison with no parole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 12/30/17 4:39:52 PM #7:	Honestly surprised its taken this long for one of these swattings to cause a death (at least that I am aware of). But even if this was a hostage situation, it makes no sense for an officer to shoot someone as soon as they open the door (from what it sounds like- I dont know exactly how it went down). Maybe the guy had a controller in his hand when he answered and the officer thought it was a gun? Still not justified but again Im just trying to picture how the scenario went down. --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:893134723] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Honestly surprised its taken this long for one of these swattings to cause a death (at least that I am aware of). But even if this was a hostage situation, it makes no sense for an officer to shoot someone as soon as they open the door (from what it sounds like- I dont know exactly how it went down). Maybe the guy had a controller in his hand when he answered and the officer thought it was a gun? Still not justified but again Im just trying to picture how the scenario went down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 12/30/17 5:01:44 PM #8:	Oh I just read that when he answered the door, cops shouted at him to put his hands up, his hands allegedly were reaching towards his waist and they immediately fired a shot. The guy was just confused and scared; its a real shame. The whole thing probably lasted a couple seconds. --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:893135738] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Oh I just read that when he answered the door, cops shouted at him to put his hands up, his hands allegedly were reaching towards his waist and they immediately fired a shot. The guy was just confused and scared; its a real shame. The whole thing probably lasted a couple seconds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 8:54:06 PM #9:	BlackScythe0 posted... JebronLames posted... Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation. They practice saying it in cop school. Ok class, say it with me "I feared for my life" <cite>Zikten posted [p:893147141] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation.</quote> They practice saying it in cop school. Ok class, say it with me "I feared for my life"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/30/17 9:05:05 PM #10:	No idea. It's a complicated case. They were responding to an alleged hostage situation -- with the house allegedly doused in gasoline -- where they were told that the armed gunman had already killed somebody. In the video, they order the guy to show his hands and walk out. Both from a news story the video, it appears that the suspect initially complied by raising his hands but, when he suddenly dropped them, the officer opens fire. Mead posted... He killed an unarmed and innocent man in front of his family. There are extenuating circumstances in this situation but he should be charged with manslaughter at the very least. The guy who got killed did nothing wrong. Given that he was responding to a call where the suspect was claimed to be armed and extremely dangerous, I'm not sure it warrants criminal charges at all. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:893147617] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>No idea. It's a complicated case. They were responding to an alleged hostage situation -- with the house allegedly doused in gasoline -- where they were told that the armed gunman had already killed somebody. In the video, they order the guy to show his hands and walk out. Both from a news story the video, it appears that the suspect initially complied by raising his hands but, when he suddenly dropped them, the officer opens fire. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>He killed an unarmed and innocent man in front of his family. There are extenuating circumstances in this situation but he should be charged with manslaughter at the very least. The guy who got killed did nothing wrong.</quote> Given that he was responding to a call where the suspect was claimed to be armed and extremely dangerous, I'm not sure it warrants criminal charges at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TallTamryu 12/30/17 9:20:09 PM #11:	Is going for a headshot what he should have done? Could have shot anywhere else and he might have lived.... --- "Guys don't treat girls right, that's why the lesbian rate's going up" <cite>TallTamryu posted [p:893148351] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Is going for a headshot what he should have done? Could have shot anywhere else and he might have lived....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/30/17 9:23:20 PM #12:	The cop did his job so no. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:893148478] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>The cop did his job so no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/30/17 9:36:19 PM #13:	Zeus posted... Given that he was responding to a call where the suspect was claimed to be armed and extremely dangerous, I'm not sure it warrants criminal charges at all. If they were so afraid of the how dangerous the guy was that they felt the need to shoot as soon as he opened the door, then they shouldn't have let him open the door. If that response can justified, then the team's approach was a gross tactical failure and the whole team should be facing charges of negligence causing death. wwinterj25 posted... The cop did his job so no. Shooting people is not a cop's job. It's sometimes (often, even) a necessary part of their job, but it should never be thought of as actually being their job. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:893149096] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Given that he was responding to a call where the suspect was claimed to be armed and extremely dangerous, I'm not sure it warrants criminal charges at all.</quote> If they were so afraid of the how dangerous the guy was that they felt the need to shoot as soon as he opened the door, then they shouldn't have let him open the door. If that response can justified, then the team's approach was a gross tactical failure and the whole team should be facing charges of negligence causing death. <cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>The cop did his job so no.</quote> Shooting people is not a cop's job. It's sometimes (often, even) a necessary part of their job, but it should never be thought of as actually being their job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/31/17 5:14:28 AM #14:	wwinterj25 posted... The cop did his job so no. I thought the job of cops was something along the lines of "protect and serve" not "shoot em as soon as they open their door. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:893165292] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>The cop did his job so no.</quote> I thought the job of cops was something along the lines of "protect and serve" not "shoot em as soon as they open their door.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/31/17 5:18:24 AM #15:	Pretty radical that you don't have to pay hitmen anymore, just phone the cops on your target --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:893165361] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Pretty radical that you don't have to pay hitmen anymore, just phone the cops on your target</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 12/31/17 9:31:09 AM #16:	Lokarin posted... Pretty radical that you don't have to pay hitmen anymore, just phone the cops on your target This post is way too real not to get modded, but I pray it doesn't. --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:893170253] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty radical that you don't have to pay hitmen anymore, just phone the cops on your target </quote> This post is way too real not to get modded, but I pray it doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenBananas 12/31/17 9:34:00 AM #17:	Yes? He's 100% at fault --- <cite>FrozenBananas posted [p:893170346] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Yes? He's 100% at fault</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 12/31/17 11:55:09 AM #18:	The cops should have done some investigating before attempting to shoot anyone. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:893175462] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>The cops should have done some investigating before attempting to shoot anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 12/31/17 12:09:40 PM #19:	If a cop shoots someone who isn't a legitimate threat, then it's manslaughter. Every single time. I don't care if he feared for his life. Or that the person flinched, or reached for something, or anything. If a citizen is unarmed and shot, the police should be held responsible. It is their responsibility to control the situation and minimize damage. If you shoot someone, you better be damn sure that you actually had to. If you don't want to assume that risk, find another line of work. --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:893176034] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>If a cop shoots someone who isn't a legitimate threat, then it's manslaughter. Every single time. I don't care if he feared for his life. Or that the person flinched, or reached for something, or anything. If a citizen is unarmed and shot, the police should be held responsible. It is their responsibility to control the situation and minimize damage. If you shoot someone, you better be damn sure that you actually had to. If you don't want to assume that risk, find another line of work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gravy 12/31/17 12:11:18 PM #20:	BlackScythe0 posted... JebronLames posted... Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation. They're coming right at us!!! <cite>gravy posted [p:893176103] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation.</quote> They're coming right at us!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/31/17 12:12:16 PM #21:	gravy posted... BlackScythe0 posted... JebronLames posted... Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation. They're coming right at us!!! Never mind that it's because we knocked on the door! --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:893176135] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>gravy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe the cop "feared for his life" like always. Maybe it looked like he reached for a weapon</quote> This is what they always say, regardless of the reality of the situation.</quote> They're coming right at us!!!</quote> Never mind that it's because we knocked on the door!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 12/31/17 12:15:14 PM #22:	helIy posted... It's ok to shoot an unarmed man if they open their front door. helly's opinions, ladies and gentlemen. --- http://i.imgur.com/tsQUpxC.jpg Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:893176256] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>It's ok to shoot an unarmed man if they open their front door.</quote> helly's opinions, ladies and gentlemen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xXsabbathXx 12/31/17 2:01:51 PM #23:	While I dont agree with the cops actions...the whole situation is just tragic story, but ultimately I feel the swatter is most to blame, for falsifying information. Sure its easy to say what you would have done if you were the police officer, but unless you actually are a police officer I dont think you fully understand how stressful these situations could be. When you get a call like that, Police take it very seriously, they are walking head first into what they believe a dangerous situation. And sure a couple seconds later they probably think they should of done something different but in a very intense moment like that you (the police officer) have no idea what could happen. TallTamryu posted... Is going for a headshot what he should have done? Could have shot anywhere else and he might have lived.... When police are trained shooting, they are taught to shoot to kill. Stun guns, pepper spray, barons and all that are used to non-lethal actions, but when you pull out your gun, you have to be ready to kill. But also......all these other swatter cases dont result in death...so many the police officer did act a little to irrational. Overall swatting is a horrible crime, the guy who made the call should get the most punishment, but I kinda agree yeah the officer should atleast get a manslaughter charge <cite>xXsabbathXx posted [p:893182125] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>While I dont agree with the cops actions...the whole situation is just tragic story, but ultimately I feel the swatter is most to blame, for falsifying information. Sure its easy to say what you would have done if you were the police officer, but unless you actually are a police officer I dont think you fully understand how stressful these situations could be. When you get a call like that, Police take it very seriously, they are walking head first into what they believe a dangerous situation. And sure a couple seconds later they probably think they should of done something different but in a very intense moment like that you (the police officer) have no idea what could happen. <cite>TallTamryu posted...</cite> <quote>Is going for a headshot what he should have done? Could have shot anywhere else and he might have lived....</quote> When police are trained shooting, they are taught to shoot to kill. Stun guns, pepper spray, barons and all that are used to non-lethal actions, but when you pull out your gun, you have to be ready to kill. But also......all these other swatter cases dont result in death...so many the police officer did act a little to irrational. Overall swatting is a horrible crime, the guy who made the call should get the most punishment, but I kinda agree yeah the officer should atleast get a manslaughter charge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xXsabbathXx 12/31/17 2:05:16 PM #24:	Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation <cite>xXsabbathXx posted [p:893182321] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote>Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/31/17 2:12:21 PM #25:	xXsabbathXx posted... Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran. My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that Ive seen that video and it is super fucked up and sad, but something like that is exceedingly rare. Most cops will never encounter a situation like that but have a much more likely chance of firing on a suspect who is unarmed because they perceive a threat over a misunderstanding. There are also ways that the cop in the video you mention could have handled the situation better without shooting the man in the truck while also not putting his life at as much risk. --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:893182772] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>xXsabbathXx posted...</cite> <quote>Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran. My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that</quote> Ive seen that video and it is super fucked up and sad, but something like that is exceedingly rare. Most cops will never encounter a situation like that but have a much more likely chance of firing on a suspect who is unarmed because they perceive a threat over a misunderstanding. There are also ways that the cop in the video you mention could have handled the situation better without shooting the man in the truck while also not putting his life at as much risk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/31/17 2:19:01 PM #26:	xXsabbathXx posted... Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:893183158] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>xXsabbathXx posted...</cite> <quote>Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation</quote> This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jramirez23 12/31/17 2:27:52 PM #27:	JebronLames posted... i know, you did not get the gist of my sarcasm? You need to put an "/s" tag or something silly too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law --- No one shall expel us from the Paradise that Cantor has created. Hilbert <cite>jramirez23 posted [p:893183681] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote>i know, you did not get the gist of my sarcasm?</quote> You need to put an "/s" tag or something silly too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xXsabbathXx 12/31/17 2:30:57 PM #28:	adjl posted... xXsabbathXx posted... Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you. I agree, like i said before, other police officers have handled swatting cases without killing anybody. The police in this case surely made some stupid decisions , if he was a real threat he could of easily opened the door and gunned them down as they gave him the opportunity to. But what I was getting at was the intense situation could cause irrational reactions, but as I said I still believe he should get a manslaughter charge <cite>xXsabbathXx posted [p:893183841] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>xXsabbathXx posted...</cite> <quote>Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation</quote> This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you.</quote> I agree, like i said before, other police officers have handled swatting cases without killing anybody. The police in this case surely made some stupid decisions , if he was a real threat he could of easily opened the door and gunned them down as they gave him the opportunity to. But what I was getting at was the intense situation could cause irrational reactions, but as I said I still believe he should get a manslaughter charge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/31/17 4:27:50 PM #29:	adjl posted... xXsabbathXx posted... Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you. Actually all the stories I read say he merely opened the door to see what was going on, there was no knock. According to the family the police also issued no orders before opening fire. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:893190427] in Do you thi... [t:76152053]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>xXsabbathXx posted...</cite> <quote>Theres this old video of this police officer dash cam... I think from 1996. Basically the police pulls over somebody, and the guy is acting crazy...but the police officer doesnt shoot immediately (like how everyone says they should wait) and the civilian ends up going to his truck, pulling out a rifle and killing the police officer and driving off, he was some crazed Vietnam veteran My step dad is a police officer and they show them that video in the academy to teach officers what could happen to them if they hesitate taking action in a situation like that The officer was some young guy in his early 20s ...so pretty inexperienced... some background info on the situation</quote> This shouldn't have been an analogous situation to that, though. Yes, the cops thought the guy inside was a major threat, but then they knocked on the door and waited for him to come open it. From a tactical standpoint, that's utterly idiotic. If you trust a guy enough to let him open the door for you, you should trust him enough to not shoot you as soon as he opens the door, and thus not need to shoot him. If he's dangerous enough to warrant shooting him as soon as he opens the door, don't let him open the door for you.</quote> Actually all the stories I read say he merely opened the door to see what was going on, there was no knock. According to the family the police also issued no orders before opening fire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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