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NINExATExSEVEN
12/28/17 6:39:10 PM
#51:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.
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Ivynn
12/28/17 6:43:41 PM
#52:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.


1. Curved swords
2. Genies
3. Belly dancers

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darkphoenix181
12/28/17 6:55:55 PM
#53:


Ivynn posted...
1. Curved swords
2. Genies
3. Belly dancers


these are not Islamic

they are cultural to the region

that is the pagan religion before Islam enjoyed them
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Sami1000
12/28/17 6:56:00 PM
#54:


Ivynn posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.


1. Curved swords
2. Genies
3. Belly dancers

Cookie please!


Did curved swords became a thing because of Islam?

Genies don't exist

Belly dancers because of Islam?? Religion that forces women to wear bee keepers costume that shows nothing but their hands and face is ok having girls doing erotic dance?
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/28/17 6:56:50 PM
#55:


Ivynn posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.


1. Curved swords
2. Genies
3. Belly dancers

Cookie please!




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UnholyMudcrab
12/28/17 6:58:45 PM
#56:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.

Charity is considered a fundamental part of the religion
Islamic art and architecture are some of the most beautiful in the world
Muslim scholars greatly refined our understanding of things like astronomy and mathematics.
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/28/17 7:03:19 PM
#57:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.

Charity is considered a fundamental part of the religion
Islamic art and architecture are some of the most beautiful in the world
Muslim scholars greatly refined our understanding of things like astronomy and mathematics.


Yes i agree, but i meant name 3 positive things about Islam as it's practiced today. What 3 things would benefit a country that's Islamic or receiving Muslims.
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ScazarMeltex
12/28/17 7:04:08 PM
#58:


EverDownward posted...
hyperpowder posted...
Islam is bad, just like crazy conservative Christians are bad.

You know, you're right. I'd much rather take the Islamist that would chop my head off for disobeying Allah than have to suffer the silent judgment of a Christian when I'm not in their presence. Better to be stabbed from the front, than in the back!


Again, any analysis of history will tell you that the only thing stopping Christians from doing all the same shit the Muslims do is that they primarily live in places where they have a separation of Church and State. When they didn't, historically they murdered the shit out of people who didn't agree with them. Hell in even in modern times in places without stability you will get groups like Kony's Lord's Resistance Army and stuff like what happened during the collapse of Yugoslavia.
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Questionmarktarius
12/28/17 7:10:30 PM
#59:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Hell in even in modern times in places without stability you will get groups like Kony's Lord's Resistance Army and stuff like what happened during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/07/polish-democracy-destroyed-constitution-media-poland
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a42ozslushie
12/28/17 7:31:54 PM
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Good on Turkey. The international capitalists have brought Europe to its knees using capital and democracy, Erdogan just wants to avoid Turkey from going the ways of Europe.
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Pow Pow Punishment
12/28/17 7:38:38 PM
#62:


Turkey was a secular Islamic country before and it was a far better country than many non-Islamic countries.

Fundamentalism is the problem. Islam just happens to be the trend of the century. In other times and/or places it could be Christianity, communism, Nazism, capitalism, whatever, all to varying degrees of human misery. There was a reason why Christopher Hitchens said North Korea is the most religious country he'd ever been to.

Erdogan of Turkey is driving the country more and more to fundamentalism, but it's also about fundamentalist ethno-nationalism as well as Islam. Turkey's treatment of the Kurds, for example, has nothing to do with Islam.
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darkjedilink
12/28/17 7:38:44 PM
#63:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.

Charity is considered a fundamental part of the religion
Islamic art and architecture are some of the most beautiful in the world
Muslim scholars greatly refined our understanding of things like astronomy and mathematics.

Charity is exclusive to Islam?

Art is subjective.

Math and science have nothing to do with Islam.
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ScazarMeltex
12/28/17 8:39:58 PM
#64:


Questionmarktarius posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
Hell in even in modern times in places without stability you will get groups like Kony's Lord's Resistance Army and stuff like what happened during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/07/polish-democracy-destroyed-constitution-media-poland


Yeah, i've been keeping pretty close track of what's going on in Poland, what with their ugly history of antisemitism in the pre ww2 . If the Kaczyskiites can jam through their agenda and slowly dismantle Poland's constitution you'll be setting the seeds for some ugly shit to follow.
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/28/17 8:46:57 PM
#65:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
Hell in even in modern times in places without stability you will get groups like Kony's Lord's Resistance Army and stuff like what happened during the collapse of Yugoslavia.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/07/polish-democracy-destroyed-constitution-media-poland


Yeah, i've been keeping pretty close track of what's going on in Poland, what with their ugly history of antisemitism in the pre ww2 . If the Kaczyskiites can jam through their agenda and slowly dismantle Poland's constitution you'll be setting the seeds for some ugly shit to follow.


So what's going on in Poland exactly? Is it still run by that one lady?
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Questionmarktarius
12/28/17 8:49:27 PM
#66:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what's going on in Poland exactly?

Some sort of Catholic autocracy is trying to take hold.
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apolloooo
12/28/17 10:48:24 PM
#67:


Zeeak4444 posted...
Organized religion is bad for society.

Color me surprised.

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NadYobWoc
12/28/17 11:02:07 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
StridentArremer posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Turkey is a perfect use case for what happens when Islam takes hold of your society

You mean this is an example of why religion - and any religion - should be kept separate from state affairs. It doesn't matter what the population believes as long as religion is constitutionally removed from all levels of government.


"But Christianity!!!"

Can you show me where the Vatican is trying people for treason over wrongthink?

That's a bit of a strawman. There is a pronounced anti-intellectual strain in American Christianity.
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loafy013
12/28/17 11:08:11 PM
#69:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.

Charity is considered a fundamental part of the religion
Islamic art and architecture are some of the most beautiful in the world
Muslim scholars greatly refined our understanding of things like astronomy and mathematics.


Yes i agree, but i meant name 3 positive things about Islam as it's practiced today. What 3 things would benefit a country that's Islamic or receiving Muslims?

What 3 positive things about ANY RELIGION, period, would benefit a country that didn't have it prior. I can't think of a single thing.
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Ammonitida
12/29/17 10:18:56 AM
#70:


loafy013 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Do you know anything about authoritarianism? That's what's going on here. Islam is just the excuse used.


Name 3 positive things about Islam please.

Charity is considered a fundamental part of the religion
Islamic art and architecture are some of the most beautiful in the world
Muslim scholars greatly refined our understanding of things like astronomy and mathematics.


Yes i agree, but i meant name 3 positive things about Islam as it's practiced today. What 3 things would benefit a country that's Islamic or receiving Muslims?

What 3 positive things about ANY RELIGION, period, would benefit a country that didn't have it prior. I can't think of a single thing.


Well, the Jesus/messiah story in the NT had an enormous impact on literary culture. It gave rise to Dune, Star Wars, The Matrix and many other supernatural/sci-fi works.
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MrBobGray
12/29/17 10:20:14 AM
#71:


Balrog0 posted...
yeah I'm sure its islam and has nothing to do with erdogan personally or his political party


Its definitely Islam.
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Tom_Green_II
12/29/17 10:26:12 AM
#72:


Third_Eye posted...
tc = racist redneck


Wow, three pages before someone drops the 'R' word...

You're slipping GFAQS
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Endofall
12/31/17 3:36:35 AM
#73:


Like most religions
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kislev
12/31/17 3:56:12 AM
#74:


r4X0r posted...
Every country in Europe that lets Muslims across their borders in large numbers proves that more Islam is bad for society.


Meanwhile water is wet
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008Zulu
12/31/17 3:59:00 AM
#75:


Turkey's dictator is not a nice person, I don't think religion (specific, or in general) is to blame here.
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kislev
12/31/17 4:02:44 AM
#76:


008Zulu posted...
Turkey's dictator is not a nice person, I don't think religion (specific, or in general) is to blame here.


Isnt he pushing to make the country islamic by force?
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UnholyMudcrab
12/31/17 4:57:08 AM
#77:


It really makes me sad when I see a troll bump a topic after two or three days, and then people fall for the bait and the argument starts back up again
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vart
12/31/17 5:01:11 AM
#78:


Want some good cringe value? Start a topic about religion on Fedora Events lmfao omg it almost hurts
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LethalAffinity
12/31/17 5:07:09 AM
#79:


Why do liberals always have to defend Islam with the Christianity response lmao
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Rika_Furude
12/31/17 5:11:09 AM
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cerealbox760
12/31/17 5:23:53 AM
#81:


Rika_Furude posted...
most religion is bad but islam and muslims seem to be worse than others.

Islam + Authoritarian governments = No good.
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kislev
12/31/17 6:38:21 PM
#82:


cerealbox760 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
most religion is bad but islam and muslims seem to be worse than others.

Islam + Authoritarian governments = No good.


Why is anybody surpised by this, i just wonder why the people even vote him into power
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einegutePerson
12/31/17 6:40:44 PM
#83:


I wonder if white supremacy, hardline conservatives see the parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and right-wing extremists
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008Zulu
12/31/17 7:46:55 PM
#84:


kislev posted...
Isnt he pushing to make the country islamic by force?


That's just him being a douche. If he were a follower of any other religion, he'd be pushing that one.
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Ryo_the_Inferno
12/31/17 8:11:47 PM
#85:


Balrog0 posted...
yeah I'm sure its islam and has nothing to do with erdogan personally or his political party

Sure, but Erdogan doesn't explain the rest of europe falling apart.
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uwnim
12/31/17 8:24:51 PM
#86:


cerealbox760 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
most religion is bad but islam and muslims seem to be worse than others.

Islam + Authoritarian governments = No good.

The best form of government for a lot of Islamic countries is a non-religious enlightened dictatorship. You have the unfortunate problem that democracies tend to result in theocracies which are about the worst form of government possible. An eternal tyrant is much worse than a mortal one.
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