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Metro2 12/27/17 3:07:53 PM #1:	You can blame it on his upbringing and being spoiled, but I also see it as a culture thing: movies and the media telling you what a "good life" should be. Making you think that sex and status is everything. Pressuring you to be a certain way. Sex isn't everything in life. And this guy took the bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KP62TE1prs <cite>Metro2 posted [p:892956909] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>You can blame it on his upbringing and being spoiled, but I also see it as a culture thing: movies and the media telling you what a "good life" should be. Making you think that sex and status is everything. Pressuring you to be a certain way. Sex isn't everything in life. And this guy took the bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KP62TE1prs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 12/27/17 3:08:21 PM #2:	It happened because he was a sick fuck. --- My waifus Caulifla, Kale and Kefla from Dragon Ball Super and I drawn by da GOAT @MoistenedYouth: https://imgur.com/a/TYhlg <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:892956933] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/27/17 3:09:57 PM #3:	Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:892957020] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 12/27/17 3:10:29 PM #4:	i actually read his "manifesto" at the time (i was doing my masters and had free time, sue me) and tbh dude just seemed deranged. I don't think you can draw causation directly and solely from societal expectations or w/e --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:892957050] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>i actually read his "manifesto" at the time (i was doing my masters and had free time, sue me) and tbh dude just seemed deranged. I don't think you can draw causation directly and solely from societal expectations or w/e</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 12/27/17 3:10:31 PM #5:	Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:892957052] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 12/27/17 3:46:32 PM #6:	Uh, he made it pretty clear his biggest issue in life was his race and not benefiting from having a white father, especially since his sister seemed to do fine socially and sexually. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:892959072] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Uh, he made it pretty clear his biggest issue in life was his race and not benefiting from having a white father, especially since his sister seemed to do fine socially and sexually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/27/17 3:47:42 PM #7:	Is not killing a bunch of people part of social expectations? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:892959144] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Is not killing a bunch of people part of social expectations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madoka_kaname 12/27/17 3:48:25 PM #8:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them. this --- An official Kaname_Madoka alt! <cite>madoka_kaname posted [p:892959181] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them.</quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iron jojo 12/27/17 3:48:39 PM #9:	Metro2 posted... You can blame it on his upbringing and being spoiled, but I also see it as a culture thing: movies and the media telling you what a "good life" should be. Making you think that sex and status is everything. Pressuring you to be a certain way. Sex isn't everything in life. And this guy took the bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KP62TE1prs You have to be intelligent enough to differentiate reality from fiction. --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" <cite>iron jojo posted [p:892959193] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>You can blame it on his upbringing and being spoiled, but I also see it as a culture thing: movies and the media telling you what a "good life" should be. Making you think that sex and status is everything. Pressuring you to be a certain way. Sex isn't everything in life. And this guy took the bait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KP62TE1prs</quote> You have to be intelligent enough to differentiate reality from fiction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/27/17 3:51:25 PM #10:	Societal pressures that can cause someone to feel less of themselves is common. Letting that build to a point of derangement and murder is not. Dont blame society for that. He was just fucked in the head. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:892959336] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Societal pressures that can cause someone to feel less of themselves is common. Letting that build to a point of derangement and murder is not. Dont blame society for that. He was just fucked in the head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 12/27/17 3:54:03 PM #11:	boo fucking hoo --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:892959479] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>boo fucking hoo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 12/27/17 3:57:04 PM #12:	He cracked under society's and his own pressure. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:892959646] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>He cracked under society's and his own pressure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 12/27/17 4:00:53 PM #13:	Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:892959860] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 12/27/17 4:02:53 PM #14:	there's not even an indication in his own recounts of events of 'societal pressure' building up. dude used to go to a cafe or something and immediately become enraged that no girls would approach him and want to fuck. dude was just deranged from the get go --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:892959956] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>there's not even an indication in his own recounts of events of 'societal pressure' building up. dude used to go to a cafe or something and immediately become enraged that no girls would approach him and want to fuck. dude was just deranged from the get go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/27/17 4:03:47 PM #15:	You know, all of us are subject to those 'societal pressures' and most of us figure out ways to manage them or 'live around' them without hurting anyone. I'm not going to sit here and blame someone for their mental illness, but we're not going to foist the blame exclusively on external stimuli either. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:892960014] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>You know, all of us are subject to those 'societal pressures' and most of us figure out ways to manage them or 'live around' them without hurting anyone. I'm not going to sit here and blame someone for their mental illness, but we're not going to foist the blame exclusively on external stimuli either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snakes_righteye 12/27/17 4:05:24 PM #16:	Elliot Rodger happened because he was a sad pathetic loser that blamed everyone else for his issues. --- Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken! <cite>snakes_righteye posted [p:892960114] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Elliot Rodger happened because he was a sad pathetic loser that blamed everyone else for his issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 12/27/17 4:06:24 PM #17:	Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:892960167] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/27/17 4:08:09 PM #18:	Fony posted... Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white. Interesting, I didn't know about any of this. Who'd have thought internalized racism could be so poisonous. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:892960253] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white.</quote> Interesting, I didn't know about any of this. Who'd have thought internalized racism could be so poisonous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/17 4:12:53 PM #19:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them. Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:892960483] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them.</quote> Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StridentArremer 12/27/17 4:13:08 PM #20:	I'm pretty sure a person would need to have prior psychopathic tendencies in order to be capable of committing (or attempting) mass murder. That, or some very extensive indoctrination into a violent extremist ideology, probably beginning at the earliest years of childhood. Rogers was more likely a case of the former. <cite>StridentArremer posted [p:892960496] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure a person would need to have prior psychopathic tendencies in order to be capable of committing (or attempting) mass murder. That, or some very extensive indoctrination into a violent extremist ideology, probably beginning at the earliest years of childhood. Rogers was more likely a case of the former.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 12/27/17 4:21:17 PM #22:	hollow_shrine posted... Fony posted... Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white. Interesting, I didn't know about any of this. Who'd have thought internalized racism could be so poisonous. He never mentioned, wrote about or spoke about any of the other tangents people are flying off on...never. Everything he ever said was ALL about race. Not getting the attention of specifically blond white women, deep hatred of Asians, specifically targeting Asian male/white female couples in public for his stupid antics like throwing drinks on them or trying to push one guy off a balcony, having a real life BSOD and calling his mother while curled up crying because black kid who was "descended from slaves" had sex with a pretty white girl, hating on a mexican friend of his roommate who also had a white girlfriend, going back and forth with Asians online for years about how white women wouldn't be caught dead with them, etc. He's a somewhat ambiguous looking rich kid in SoCal with a famous father...not only could ha buy pussy, most women out there would fuck him for free at least once just to talk a selfie in his father's house or something. His wannabe whiteness was never validated and he couldn't separate himself from Asian men in society. That's why he killed asian men and white women. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:892960890] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao, what pressure dis anyone put on him? He was the definition of low/no expectations. He was expected to do regular shit like go to school and only a job as a way to socialize and develop skills. His director father had no expectations of him being creative either. He simply thought that he should do better and be happier than most other people flat out due to his racial background and explicitly says so. He didn't want "girls" or "pussy" bit the adoration of his status symbol blond "angels" which would validate his whiteness(lol mixed race Asian looking hapa) and superiority over Asians and the "mud" races. His online history was full of racial fixation and trying to put himself above regular Asians and wanting to be seen as white.</quote> Interesting, I didn't know about any of this. Who'd have thought internalized racism could be so poisonous.</quote> He never mentioned, wrote about or spoke about any of the other tangents people are flying off on...never. Everything he ever said was ALL about race. Not getting the attention of specifically blond white women, deep hatred of Asians, specifically targeting Asian male/white female couples in public for his stupid antics like throwing drinks on them or trying to push one guy off a balcony, having a real life BSOD and calling his mother while curled up crying because black kid who was "descended from slaves" had sex with a pretty white girl, hating on a mexican friend of his roommate who also had a white girlfriend, going back and forth with Asians online for years about how white women wouldn't be caught dead with them, etc. He's a somewhat ambiguous looking rich kid in SoCal with a famous father...not only could ha buy pussy, most women out there would fuck him for free at least once just to talk a selfie in his father's house or something. His wannabe whiteness was never validated and he couldn't separate himself from Asian men in society. That's why he killed asian men and white women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/27/17 4:21:19 PM #23:	ChainedRedone posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them. Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently. They definitely occurred decades ago. Its also easier to get access to things to help with it these days. That said no one is denying that the societal pressures might have contributed to what he was feeling. Its his willingness to act on it violently that you cant blame on society. Plenty of people today get down on themselves because of what they see on TV. They arent going out and committing mass murders. Not even half of them are. That isnt normal. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:892960892] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them.</quote> Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently.</quote> They definitely occurred decades ago. Its also easier to get access to things to help with it these days. That said no one is denying that the societal pressures might have contributed to what he was feeling. Its his willingness to act on it violently that you cant blame on society. Plenty of people today get down on themselves because of what they see on TV. They arent going out and committing mass murders. Not even half of them are. That isnt normal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/27/17 4:21:45 PM #24:	Blaming society for an entitled psychopath going on a shooting spree is fucking stupid. There are plenty of guys just like him that don't snap <cite>Axiom posted [p:892960909] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Blaming society for an entitled psychopath going on a shooting spree is fucking stupid. There are plenty of guys just like him that don't snap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 12/27/17 4:28:08 PM #26:	Didn't he throw hot coffee over a happy looking couple because seeing romantic couples made him angry? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:892961275] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>Didn't he throw hot coffee over a happy looking couple because seeing romantic couples made him angry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iron jojo 12/27/17 4:28:33 PM #27:	Axiom posted... Blaming society for an entitled psychopath going on a shooting spree is fucking stupid. There are plenty of guys just like him that don't snap True but not everyone is lucky enough to have CE as an outlet --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" <cite>iron jojo posted [p:892961297] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Blaming society for an entitled psychopath going on a shooting spree is fucking stupid. There are plenty of guys just like him that don't snap</quote> True but not everyone is lucky enough to have CE as an outlet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 12/27/17 4:29:18 PM #28:	He actually did post here, not frequently though. Don't know if he ever posted on CE. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:892961348] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>He actually did post here, not frequently though. Don't know if he ever posted on CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/17 4:31:45 PM #29:	TheVipaGTS posted... ChainedRedone posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Scotty_Rogers posted... It happened because he was a sick fuck. Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them. Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently. They definitely occurred decades ago. Uh no. They were very rare prior to Columbine. Now we get multiple a year. That's especially interesting because we used to have military-grade automatic weapons completely legal. And virtually no gun control or background checks. Yet they were still rare. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:892961503] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote>It happened because he was a sick fuck.</quote> Yeah, these pressures exist for everyone and most people don't go on killing sprees Killers will be killers over whatever issue plagues them.</quote> Yet murder sprees were so much more rare decades ago. Obviously something is occuring differently.</quote> They definitely occurred decades ago. </quote> Uh no. They were very rare prior to Columbine. Now we get multiple a year. That's especially interesting because we used to have military-grade automatic weapons completely legal. And virtually no gun control or background checks. Yet they were still rare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pepys Monster 12/27/17 4:38:56 PM #31:	I believe he had some minor mental illness such as an inferiority complex, and the Internet made it far worse. He went to forums like bodybuilding.com and got made fun of for being a virgin. Those guys didn't try to give him advice or encourage him. They just put him down. He went to some place called PUAhate where he met other incels that encouraged him to feel outraged at women. Let's not overlook the Internet's role here. --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:892961890] in Elliot Rod... [t:76142179]...</cite> <quote>I believe he had some minor mental illness such as an inferiority complex, and the Internet made it far worse. He went to forums like bodybuilding.com and got made fun of for being a virgin. Those guys didn't try to give him advice or encourage him. They just put him down. He went to some place called PUAhate where he met other incels that encouraged him to feel outraged at women. Let's not overlook the Internet's role here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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