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Kasperia
12/23/17 7:42:56 PM
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Some users on this site seem to disagree because apparently their definition of "White" does not include Mediterranean people. They are also okay with a Black guy playing Achilles. What are your thoughts on this?
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SageHarpuia
12/23/17 7:43:36 PM
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I... what?
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Kamala_Harris
12/23/17 7:45:23 PM
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for fucks sake go back to /pol/
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Kasperia
12/23/17 7:49:50 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
I... what?


In case you missed it. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76122565?page=6
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 7:52:40 PM
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Troll. I wonder who's alt is this.
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YourDrunkFather
12/23/17 7:55:24 PM
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They're clearly hispanic
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MacadamianNut3
12/23/17 7:56:35 PM
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Why don't you keep your shitposting to the 300+ hellhole topic
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Kasperia
12/23/17 7:57:43 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
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Troll. I wonder who's alt is this.


Asking a question and being a new user doesn't make me a "troll". But this word is thrown around so carelessly on this site that it doesn't hold any weight anymore. If you don't want to partake in the discussion then ignore and move on to some other topic.
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Kasperia
12/23/17 7:58:22 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
They're clearly hispanic


Does it still make it okay for a Black guy to play Achilles?
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 7:59:06 PM
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Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
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Troll. I wonder who's alt is this.


Asking a question and being a new user doesn't make me a "troll". But this word is thrown around so carelessly on this site that it doesn't hold any weight anymore. If you don't want to partake in the discussion then ignore and move on to some other topic.


How about you do what MacadamianNut3 says

MacadamianNut3 posted...
Why don't you keep your shitposting to the 300+ hellhole topic

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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:04:17 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
User Info: Kasperia
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Troll. I wonder who's alt is this.


Asking a question and being a new user doesn't make me a "troll". But this word is thrown around so carelessly on this site that it doesn't hold any weight anymore. If you don't want to partake in the discussion then ignore and move on to some other topic.


How about you do what MacadamianNut3 says

MacadamianNut3 posted...
Why don't you keep your shitposting to the 300+ hellhole topic


Listen dude, you are obviously too triggered because of that other topic, where you are saying that Greeks are Black (lol) so, I'm not gonna argue with you.
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EducatedGuy
12/23/17 8:05:34 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
They're clearly hispanic
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thrashmetal14
12/23/17 8:05:56 PM
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A greek with white skin is white.
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CarlGrimes
12/23/17 8:06:39 PM
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They are tan white.
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EducatedGuy
12/23/17 8:06:56 PM
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thrashmetal14 posted...
A greek with white skin is white.


False. By that logic a Mexican with white skin would be white

MAGA MAGA
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:09:04 PM
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Kasperia posted...
Listen dude, you are obviously too triggered because of that other topic, where you are saying that Greeks are Black (lol) so, I'm not gonna argue with you.


And I prove that there are some black Greeks. But hey, I understand that you have to make a alt account to try and get your point across. So, continue to ignore facts and make another alt so you can agree with yourself.
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Chicken
12/23/17 8:09:33 PM
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EducatedGuy
12/23/17 8:10:16 PM
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Chicken posted...
Olive.


Oil
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:11:17 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Listen dude, you are obviously too triggered because of that other topic, where you are saying that Greeks are Black (lol) so, I'm not gonna argue with you.


And I prove that there are some black Greeks. But hey, I understand that you have to make a alt account to try and get your point across. So, continue to ignore facts and make another alt so you can agree with yourself.


Show me some examples of Black Greeks.
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Zikten
12/23/17 8:17:22 PM
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CarlGrimes posted...
They are tan white.

this

what counts as white has changed over history. people used to not count Irish as white, believe it or not. also, in ancient times, like in the Roman Empire, there was no collective "white race". every tribe or culture was a different race. you had the Roman race, the Gallic race, the German race, the British race....
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:18:57 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Listen dude, you are obviously too triggered because of that other topic, where you are saying that Greeks are Black (lol) so, I'm not gonna argue with you.


And I prove that there are some black Greeks. But hey, I understand that you have to make a alt account to try and get your point across. So, continue to ignore facts and make another alt so you can agree with yourself.


Show me some examples of Black Greeks.

http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1769


This is like right on the top, "The village of Avato, in the northeastern prefecture of Xanthi, is home to a unique community whose ancestors are believed to have come to Greece from Sudan during Ottoman rule"

They are clearly a recent addition with their origins in Africa and are not Greek by race or ethnicity. Also, we are talking about Achilles here and not Ottoman Rule.
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:22:03 PM
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Thanks Wariodorf
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:25:54 PM
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some greeks are white

some are black

there are greeks of every race
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JBaLLEN66
12/23/17 8:25:54 PM
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Jesus isnt white but Ive seen him portrayed as a blonde man. Paybackkkk
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:29:44 PM
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averagejoel posted...
some greeks are white

some are black

there are greeks of every race


And people on here don't want to accept that. They think only "true Greeks" are white.
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:31:05 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
averagejoel posted...
some greeks are white

some are black

there are greeks of every race


And people on here don't want to accept that. They think only "true Greeks" are white.

hmmm, that sounds familiar. I wonder where they could have gotten that from
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:31:25 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
Kasperia posted...
Wariodorf posted...
Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Listen dude, you are obviously too triggered because of that other topic, where you are saying that Greeks are Black (lol) so, I'm not gonna argue with you.


And I prove that there are some black Greeks. But hey, I understand that you have to make a alt account to try and get your point across. So, continue to ignore facts and make another alt so you can agree with yourself.


Show me some examples of Black Greeks.

http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=1769


This is like right on the top, "The village of Avato, in the northeastern prefecture of Xanthi, is home to a unique community whose ancestors are believed to have come to Greece from Sudan during Ottoman rule"

They are clearly a recent addition with their origins in Africa and are not Greek by race or ethnicity. Also, we are talking about Achilles here and not Ottoman Rule.

https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/afrg/hd_afrg.htm


All it says is that Greeks were in contact with Africans. Only time they were close to being a minority was during the Hellenistic period (ca. 32331 B.C.). The Trojan War occured in
12th or 11th century BC. Even if some Africans did constitute a miniscule minority in Ancient Greece, they never made a significant genetic impact, as ethnic Greeks don't have African features. Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:33:07 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Jesus isnt white but Ive seen him portrayed as a blonde man. Paybackkkk


Jesus is mostly portrayed as a dark haired person.
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:33:07 PM
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Kasperia posted...
Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.


And he wasn't described as have European features.

Edit. Scratch that. Yes he was......

https://www.quora.com/What-did-Achilles-look-like
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:34:11 PM
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Kasperia posted...
All it says is that Greeks were in contact with Africans. Only time they were close to being a minority was during the Hellenistic period (ca. 32331 B.C.). The Trojan War occured in
12th or 11th century BC. Even if some Africans did constitute a miniscule minority in Ancient Greece, they never made a significant genetic impact, as ethnic Greeks don't have African features. Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.

do you also get this uptight about fictional characters using the word "hello" in time periods before the invention of the telephone
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:35:42 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.


And he wasn't described as have European features.


In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair ( = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197). That's probably the most persistent characteristic given for him and is repeated numerous times. The word "xanth" () used here can be translated as "yellow", "fair", "golden", "blonde".

On the other hand, in Hyginus' Fabulae it is said that Achilles' mother sent him to the island of Scyros, to hide him from the Achaeans who seeked his help in the Trojan war that was about to start. He disguised him as girl named Pyrrha (). This name too suggests that Achilles was blonde or somewhat red-haired, since pyrrhos () means "flame-coloured" or "yellowish-red".
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:40:29 PM
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^Triggered.

Btw, it was also factually incorrect for Black people to play Persian in 300.
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:40:34 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
You asked for examples of Black Greeks. I showed you. I don't give a shit about what you say afterwards


They don't want to accept that. They keep moving the goalpost
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SuperNamekGod
12/23/17 8:44:28 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Wariodorf posted...
You asked for examples of Black Greeks. I showed you. I don't give a shit about what you say afterwards


They don't want to accept that. They keep moving the goalpost

wariodoof's post, all the article shows it that Greeks were in contact with Africans, not that there were black greeks

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NINExATExSEVEN
12/23/17 8:44:48 PM
#39:


Bishop9800 posted...
averagejoel posted...
some greeks are white

some are black

there are greeks of every race


And people on here don't want to accept that. They think only "true Greeks" are white.


So if all it takes to be X ethnic/race is to share a tiny percentage of that groups DNA, why do we have race and ethnic conflict everywhere?

I mean black Americans shouldn't complain about white people because they themselves have white dna.... but they do see whites as "other".

Strange huh. They should clearly share white privilege as well because they have white ancestry.
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The Great Muta 22
12/23/17 8:44:48 PM
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Why is TC too much a wussy to admit to his alt or use his actual handle?
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:47:10 PM
#41:


Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.


And he wasn't described as have European features.


In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair ( = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197). That's probably the most persistent characteristic given for him and is repeated numerous times. The word "xanth" () used here can be translated as "yellow", "fair", "golden", "blonde".

On the other hand, in Hyginus' Fabulae it is said that Achilles' mother sent him to the island of Scyros, to hide him from the Achaeans who seeked his help in the Trojan war that was about to start. He disguised him as girl named Pyrrha (). This name too suggests that Achilles was blonde or somewhat red-haired, since pyrrhos () means "flame-coloured" or "yellowish-red".

there are black people with blond or red hair
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Fony
12/23/17 8:47:12 PM
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I hope black Achiles fucks 10 white women.
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Kasperia
12/23/17 8:48:41 PM
#43:


averagejoel posted...
Kasperia posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...
Lastly, Achilles is never described as having African features so even if some Black people did exist in Greece, that doesn't mean Achilles or any other particular historical or mythological Greek character was Black.


And he wasn't described as have European features.


In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair ( = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197). That's probably the most persistent characteristic given for him and is repeated numerous times. The word "xanth" () used here can be translated as "yellow", "fair", "golden", "blonde".

On the other hand, in Hyginus' Fabulae it is said that Achilles' mother sent him to the island of Scyros, to hide him from the Achaeans who seeked his help in the Trojan war that was about to start. He disguised him as girl named Pyrrha (). This name too suggests that Achilles was blonde or somewhat red-haired, since pyrrhos () means "flame-coloured" or "yellowish-red".

there are black people with blond or red hair


I think you are talking about Australian Aboriginals and not Africans.
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:48:50 PM
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Fony posted...
I hope black Achiles fucks 10 white women.

in all honesty, Achilles was... probably gay
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kislev
12/23/17 8:49:25 PM
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Yes they are white unlike you indians
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:50:09 PM
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Kasperia posted...

I think you are talking about Australian Aboriginals and not Africans


There are some Africana with blonde hair.
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averagejoel
12/23/17 8:50:48 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Kasperia posted...

I think you are talking about Australian Aboriginals and not Africans


There are some Africana with blonde hair.

there are also some Africans with red hair
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Bishop9800
12/23/17 8:51:58 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Why is TC too much a wussy to admit to his alt or use his actual handle?


Because he thinks that if he pretends to be someone else agreeing with him, his point is correct. But it shows how much of a he is.
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