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iamintents
12/22/17 11:56:41 AM
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Both are traitors
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Darklit_Minuet
12/22/17 11:57:11 AM
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We don't
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TheVipaGTS
12/22/17 11:58:24 AM
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logical people don't.
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einegutePerson
12/22/17 11:58:36 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
logical people don't.

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Kaname_Madoka
12/22/17 11:58:46 AM
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I hate this argument

You really think betraying America is the worst thing the confeds did?

Bruh.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/22/17 11:59:05 AM
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Confederate flag at least has the right colors
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TheGrindery
12/22/17 12:00:35 PM
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Because people can think whatever stupid shit they want and it's just cloth.
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eston
12/22/17 12:04:10 PM
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StridentArremer
12/22/17 12:08:17 PM
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I don't really care if people want to fly hate symbols on their private property. That's their right. I just don't want hateful displays on tax-funded public property. Which is why there's this whole debacle about state buildings displaying Confederate symbols and monuments.
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ArchiePeck
12/22/17 12:08:43 PM
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Most of us don't tolerate Confederate flags...
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josifrees
12/22/17 12:08:57 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
We don't

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--kresnik--
12/22/17 12:10:10 PM
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Because confederate flags are not hateful or offensive, and anybody who is upset by one is thin-skinned and overly sensitive.
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On_The_Edge
12/22/17 12:10:38 PM
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why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?
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StridentArremer
12/22/17 12:15:42 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags

Name a single public premises in the U.S. that displays communist symbols.
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On_The_Edge
12/22/17 12:40:55 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?

the question is not why we don't tolerate nazi flags but why we tolerate communist ones....
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/22/17 12:42:42 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?

the question is not why we don't tolerate nazi flags but why we tolerate communist ones....


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CADE FOSTER
12/22/17 12:44:30 PM
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Esrac
12/22/17 12:47:45 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
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averagejoel
12/22/17 12:51:51 PM
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Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.
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Esrac
12/22/17 12:59:57 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.
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EverDownward
12/22/17 1:00:41 PM
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...how are Nazi's traitors? I get the Confederacy, since they seceded from the Union. Nazi's?
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Letron_James
12/22/17 1:02:38 PM
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Because some fat butthurt southern murcans are still mad that they got whooped by the superior Union army
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Letron_James
12/22/17 1:05:26 PM
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Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.


Ive never understood this comparative excuse. "Nazis committed genocide but hurr durr Communism killed more". Ok? There both stupid ass ideologies that have harmed way more than helped. Just because one turd is slightly smaller than another, doesnt change the fact its still a turd.
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josifrees
12/22/17 1:07:12 PM
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Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.

You are going to lose trying to compare body counts. Mini hitlers like Pol Pot killed off over 30% of their population whereas the worst communist death tolls werent any more than 10%
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averagejoel
12/22/17 1:09:10 PM
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Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.

point out one instance where Marx or Engels advocated genocide
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Esrac
12/22/17 1:17:52 PM
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josifrees posted...
Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.

You are going to lose trying to compare body counts. Mini hitlers like Pol Pot killed off over 30% of their population whereas the worst communist death tolls werent any more than 10%


I'm not comparing body counts. This isn't a dick measuring contest about which was worse. They're both horrible and deliberately causes deaths in the ten of millions.
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Esrac
12/22/17 1:18:28 PM
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averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.

point out one instance where Marx or Engels advocated genocide


I don't need to. The fact that it just kept happening is enough for me.
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averagejoel
12/22/17 1:39:22 PM
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Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
averagejoel posted...
Esrac posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?


I don't know if you've noticed, but communists can boast a pretty impressive body count too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

genocide is an inherent part of nazi ideology. it's not with communism.


Sure, man. It's just tens of millions of accidents. Whatever, dude.

point out one instance where Marx or Engels advocated genocide


I don't need to. The fact that it just kept happening is enough for me.

my point was that it's not inherent to the ideology. and it isn't
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frozenshock
12/22/17 2:23:28 PM
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This is the actual confederate flag, as in, the flag of the Confederate States of America:

maKKyTH

What you usually see being flown as the "confederate flag" is actually a battle flag
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averagejoel
12/22/17 2:23:58 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I don't think anyone here is saying that communism is a good thing. We all understand that it has led to the passive deaths of millions.

it's also important to keep in mind that most of the information you get about socialist states has its roots in Nazi Propaganda
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TheGrindery
12/22/17 2:42:31 PM
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Well the Confederate flag didn't end up in a racist and somehow very popular Mario ROM hack.
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ZombiePelican
12/22/17 3:09:57 PM
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gguirao
12/22/17 5:08:10 PM
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Because the Confederate flag is American.
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Kineth
12/22/17 5:09:00 PM
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einegutePerson posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
logical people don't.

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TheCyborgNinja
12/22/17 5:13:54 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
why do we tolerate communist flags but not nazi ones?


Probably because the Nazis committed one of the world's most barbaric and largest genocides in recorded history?

Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?!...
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masticatingman
12/22/17 5:15:07 PM
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Anything the Confederates did during the war...wasnt anything worse than what the Union army did. Just a lot of POW bullshit on both sides. Compare to the fucking Nazis in WWII.
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Kineth
12/22/17 5:16:33 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Anything the Confederates did during the war...wasnt anything worse than what the Union army did. Just a lot of POW bullshit on both sides. Compare to the fucking Nazis in WWII.


The fucking Confederate flag's last major usage was as a banner against the Civil Rights movement. It's not simply about the Confederacy and you're largely ignorant of history to frame it in the way you are. And it's not about a fucking comparison between the two. Can't 2 things just be something without it being a fucking competition?
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gguirao
12/22/17 5:21:40 PM
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What I find especially funny about that reasoning is that, prior to the Nazis misappropriated the swastika, people only knew it as a symbol of peace. The Confederate flag, however, had no prior positive connotations.
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masticatingman
12/22/17 5:23:47 PM
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Kineth posted...
masticatingman posted...
Anything the Confederates did during the war...wasnt anything worse than what the Union army did. Just a lot of POW bullshit on both sides. Compare to the fucking Nazis in WWII.


The fucking Confederate flag's last major usage was as a banner against the Civil Rights movement. It's not simply about the Confederacy and you're largely ignorant of history to frame it in the way you are. And it's not about a fucking comparison between the two. Can't 2 things just be something without it being a fucking competition?


You sure do curse a lot, bud.
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Kineth
12/22/17 5:24:40 PM
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Yeah, I also directly respond to what people say a lot instead of dodging the point.
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masticatingman
12/22/17 5:25:08 PM
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Explain how Im ignorant of the war history, go on.
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masticatingman
12/22/17 5:25:58 PM
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Kineth posted...
Yeah, I also directly respond to what people say a lot instead of dodging the point.


Bravo.
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Kineth
12/22/17 5:26:10 PM
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I didn't say you were ignorant of the war history. Did you even understand what I was saying?
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masticatingman
12/22/17 5:29:52 PM
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Ah, so you just want me to conflate the Confederate flag with racism. Its the Confederate battle flag - I take it at face value for its use in the war.
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