Poll of the Day > Film students are insufferable.

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They all want to make their dream projects in their first semester and they all suck and never want to listen to anyone's advice.

I'm watching videos from my classes final projects and there's one that has fifty jumpcuts. FIFTY. In a five minute video!

ok so who cares
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TC is correct.
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You just don't understand their art.
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>Was film student
>Was not as TC described
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The type of film student depends on the school. Most film students I know from state school are the kind who haven't seen anything beyond Nolan movies or 80s John Hughes movies and think that film is their passion without having even the faintest understanding of it, and prove to be incredibly incompetent in every regard.

While most film students I know from major dedicated film schools like NYU's Tisch or USC or CalArts are different, and definitely understand a lot more in regards to film and the technical aspects of filmmaking, but still plenty are either pretentious, both with their "dream projects" and just in general, or they are actually as incompetent as most people at state schools but since they are in a better program are more showoffy and needlessly elitist.

Still not all film students are bad, have quite a few people that are both my friends and whose film work/knowledge isn't horrible, from both the state school I go too and bigger film programs.
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madadude posted...

80s John Hughes movies and think that film is their passion without having even the faintest understanding of it, and prove to be incredibly incompetent in every regard.

I, I mean....80s John Hughes movies are my absolute favorite movies of all time, but I don't want to make movies like him. I just really enjoy them?

Oh god, am I going to be a bad film student?

Not saying they are bad at all, just that they are pretty normal/typical movies and really just the tip of the iceberg, even for American cinema. But I definitely know people who refuse to watch anything older than 80s and like... stop exploring new forms of cinema, sticking with just what they are familiar with, and used that as an example, since at least in my experience its a very typical opinion.
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Really one's opinions on film don't matter at all as long as you understand basic film theory and are good at the technical side, you need at least those things to have a shot of being successful in the real world of production.
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Yeah I'm currently re-writing this guy's script and am going to give it to him with the hopes that he will take my advice (finally) and try to make his project somewhat coherent.

I can 100% see what he was going for, his cut is just so butchered and rush that it makes no sense whatsoever. I don't expect to get very far though and doubt he will even consider it.

so only the script has been written right? nothing filmed?

Any specific blaring examples you could share, sounds potentially like good content
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madadude posted...

so only the script has been written right? nothing filmed?

Any specific blaring examples you could share, sounds potentially like good content

Nope, it's been filmed and edited. It is just under 7 minutes long and has 36 jump cuts in it. It doesn't explain the main plot device and focuses a minute and a half of the seven minute time limit to introduce characters through means that could be handled in 20 seconds. The actors are clearly not given any proper direction and after being denied the ability to use a 30 page script for the video, the director tried to forgo the script entirely and make the actors improvise their way through the scenes in hopes that it would make the video go faster.

I was told at the end of the first class of the week that they only had four and a half minutes of viable content and that they were annoyed by my attempts to help them when "the timelimit isn't an issue because they didn't even have enough content to fill the seven minutes" I got a text later that night from the director saying that his first cut was over seventeen minutes long and that he hastily cut it down to 7 minutes.

They then went on to claim that the seven minute time limit was a non-issue because "the teacher will understand if we hand in a ten minute version" despite the fact that they asked him Day One about it and he said it couldn't even be a second over seven minutes.

It's a complete mess, but at least they aren't at war with the other groups like the rest of the class is.