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Skye Reynolds
12/15/17 9:52:36 AM
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is to break out an old VHS player, watch the unaltered original trilogy, and forget that anything beyond that exists.

It tells a complete and satisfying story.
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3khc
12/15/17 9:55:36 AM
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Head canon >>>

Anakin was a slave who fell in love with a queen. He became a knight and tried to save everyone, but had to do horrible things. In the end, all of his loved ones hated him for it.
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eston
12/15/17 9:56:34 AM
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Tanoomba
12/15/17 9:58:59 AM
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CelestialVoices
12/15/17 10:10:56 AM
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averagejoel
12/15/17 10:15:22 AM
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episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist
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KiwiTerraRizing
12/15/17 10:17:16 AM
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averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys
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3khc
12/15/17 10:21:12 AM
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PT = Rise of Vader
OT = Fall of Vader
ST = Legacy of Vader
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 10:22:07 AM
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averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist

Not sure if joke account
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theAteam
12/15/17 10:34:02 AM
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I guess but even after RotJ it's not like the Empire just ceased existing, right? Which is sort of where we are now with the sequels.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 10:35:42 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6
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KiwiTerraRizing
12/15/17 11:02:34 AM
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averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6


Hes evil for the vast majority of 3, all of 4 and 5 and all of 6 until the last 10 minutes.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:04:01 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6


Hes evil for the vast majority of 3, all of 4 and 5 and all of 6 until the last 10 minutes.

this does not contradict my point. Protagonists can be evil.
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KiwiTerraRizing
12/15/17 11:05:24 AM
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averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6


Hes evil for the vast majority of 3, all of 4 and 5 and all of 6 until the last 10 minutes.

this does not contradict my point. Protagonists can be evil.


They typically are. But he clearly isnt the lead chapter in 4-6, Luke is.
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Evolician
12/15/17 11:09:30 AM
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averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6

Vader has like ten minutes of screen time in A New Hope. You really gonna tell me he's the main protagonist?
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:10:36 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6


Hes evil for the vast majority of 3, all of 4 and 5 and all of 6 until the last 10 minutes.

this does not contradict my point. Protagonists can be evil.


They typically are. But he clearly isnt the lead chapter in 4-6, Luke is.


as I said earlier, episodes 1-6 are about Anakin's fall and redemption, making him the overall protagonist
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:14:46 AM
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Evolician posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6

Vader has like ten minutes of screen time in A New Hope. You really gonna tell me he's the main protagonist?

if you take episode 4 as a standalone movie, then no.

however, it's not a standalone movie.

I'm talking about episodes 1 through 6 as a single continuous story. Luke isn't even present for the first half, while Anakin is always a central part of the plot. he is the overall protagonist of episodes 1-6
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hyperpsycho
12/15/17 11:22:56 AM
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Didn't they stop making VCRs several years ago?

TAPES ARE COMING BACK
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Distant_Rainbow
12/15/17 11:28:32 AM
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averagejoel posted...
Evolician posted...
averagejoel posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1 through 6 detail Anakin's fall and redemption. it's not complete if you don't have half the story of the main protagonist


1-3 is Anakins story
4-6 is Lukes
7-9 is Reys

Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6

Vader has like ten minutes of screen time in A New Hope. You really gonna tell me he's the main protagonist?

if you take episode 4 as a standalone movie, then no.

however, it's not a standalone movie.

I'm talking about episodes 1 through 6 as a single continuous story. Luke isn't even present for the first half, while Anakin is always a central part of the plot. he is the overall protagonist of episodes 1-6


Preach it dude.

Skye Reynolds posted...
is to break out an old VHS player, watch the unaltered original trilogy, and forget that anything beyond that exists.

It tells a complete and satisfying story.


I don't have video tapes of the OT, so I use laserdiscs. Does that count?
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 11:32:58 AM
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averagejoel posted...

if you take episode 4 as a standalone movie, then no.

however, it's not a standalone movie.

Except it is.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:35:17 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
averagejoel posted...

if you take episode 4 as a standalone movie, then no.

however, it's not a standalone movie.

Except it is.

it can be viewed on its own, but its primary purpose is as part of a larger saga - that saga being the story of Anakin's fall and redemption
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 11:39:00 AM
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averagejoel posted...
but its primary purpose is as part of a larger saga - that saga being the story of Anakin's fall and redemption

None of this is true.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:41:12 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
averagejoel posted...
but its primary purpose is as part of a larger saga - that saga being the story of Anakin's fall and redemption

None of this is true.

you are cordially invited to prove me wrong, but "none of this is true" is not proof

and FYI I've written academic essays (plural) on Star Wars. I know what I'm talking about
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 11:43:35 AM
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I don't need to present proof to dismiss a claim you made without proof.
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Distant_Rainbow
12/15/17 11:50:56 AM
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averagejoel posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
averagejoel posted...
but its primary purpose is as part of a larger saga - that saga being the story of Anakin's fall and redemption

None of this is true.

you are cordially invited to prove me wrong, but "none of this is true" is not proof

and FYI I've written academic essays (plural) on Star Wars. I know what I'm talking about


Evidently he couldn't even see the huge 'Episode IV' at the very start of the movie.

Just stop trying, it'll be like you're talking to a wall.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 11:52:04 AM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
Evidently he couldn't even see the huge 'Episode IV' at the very start of the movie.

As far as I understand that wasn't added until after Empire Strikes Back was released.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 11:55:46 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I don't need to present proof to dismiss a claim you made without proof.


then it's a good thing I did have proof.

my claim:
averagejoel posted...
Anakin is the main protagonist of episodes 1-6


my proof:
averagejoel posted...
episodes 1-6 are about Anakin's fall and redemption, making him the overall protagonist


averagejoel posted...
I'm talking about episodes 1 through 6 as a single continuous story. Luke isn't even present for the first half, while Anakin is always a central part of the plot. he is the overall protagonist of episodes 1-6

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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 12:03:04 PM
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That's not proof, that's an opening statement. The proof is supposed to be submitted to support that statement.

It also not really related to my position on any issue either way.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 12:08:02 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
That's not proof, that's an opening statement. The proof is supposed to be submitted to support that statement.

It also not really related to my position on any issue either way.

then why did you start arguing with me
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 12:10:21 PM
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Because you said something silly.

At this point I'm more interested in these supposed academic writings on Star Wars you've done if you don't even know that making a statement is not evidence in itself.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 12:24:37 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Because you said something silly.

then why didn't you point out what was silly about it instead of going off about something "not really related"
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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 12:26:20 PM
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I did.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 12:40:54 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I did.

the You from post 29 seems to disagree:

NibeIungsnarf posted...
It also not really related to my position on any issue either way.

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NibeIungsnarf
12/15/17 12:43:36 PM
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I was referring to your response. You went on about something of Anakin being the highest average protagaonist or something in the franchise, which is unrelated to what I originally criticized you for.
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averagejoel
12/15/17 12:45:31 PM
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highest average protagonist?

what?
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Funbazooka
12/15/17 12:46:10 PM
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Adywan's A New Hope fan edit as an alternative to the unaltered release. Haven't seen his ESB fan edit but I hear its good or even better.
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545x39
12/15/17 12:48:38 PM
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No, watch the despecialized versions.
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Skye Reynolds
12/15/17 9:04:02 PM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
I don't have video tapes of the OT, so I use laserdiscs. Does that count?


Absolutely.
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Evolician
12/16/17 12:07:53 AM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
Evidently he couldn't even see the huge 'Episode IV' at the very start of the movie.

That wasn't added in until much later.. The original Star Wars was basically a stand alone film.

The idea that "Darth Vader is the main protagonist" is just some crap old George made up many many years later. It is never stated in the behind-the-scenes stuff for the Original Trilogy.
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Zack_Attackv1
12/16/17 12:09:06 AM
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ledbowman
12/16/17 12:31:54 AM
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Imagine thinking Return of the Jedi is better than Revenge of the Sith.
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Skye Reynolds
12/16/17 12:55:55 AM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
That's bullshit and you know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFseYxPq-A


Sorry, hipster.
I didn't know video discs were a thing until DVD.
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ledbowman
12/16/17 1:20:10 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Zack_Attackv1 posted...
That's bullshit and you know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFseYxPq-A


Sorry, hipster.
I didn't know video discs were a thing until DVD.

Imagine thinking you have to be hipster to know what fucking laserdisc is.
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