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KazumaKiryu
12/14/17 12:52:26 PM
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It was passed TWO YEARS ago by Obama to give them more control. I hope you people realize that. It's not about protecting consumers. You're being led along like complete sheep and freaking out like it's the end of the world if it gets repealed.
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Smashingpmkns
12/14/17 12:54:08 PM
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Repealing net neutrallity gives control to shit stain companies that are already gouging you for money.
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C_Pain
12/14/17 12:55:02 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Repealing net neutrallity gives control to shit stain companies that are already gouging you for money.

Yes but that's the best we can do. Companies just want money, the gov't is truly an insidious part of society.
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KazumaKiryu
12/14/17 12:55:07 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Repealing net neutrallity gives control to shit stain companies that are already gouging you for money.


Already? So you mean net neutrality didn't stop that? Huh. But I guess it'll just be worse without it, right? Just like healthcare would be worse, we promise....
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itachi15243
12/14/17 12:57:19 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
It was passed TWO YEARS ago by Obama to give them more control. I hope you people realize that. It's not about protecting consumers. You're being led along like complete sheep and freaking out like it's the end of the world if it gets repealed.


You make it sound like a bad thing, or like like Obama's cabinet had direct control and censored the the net. Instead of the the whole thing where it was the FCC who enforces net neutrality and freedom of the internet.

I hope that this is a troll post
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untrustful
12/14/17 12:57:48 PM
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Cool, so you can give examples of what this government control looked like.
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Holy_Cloud105
12/14/17 12:57:57 PM
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C_Pain posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Repealing net neutrallity gives control to shit stain companies that are already gouging you for money.

Yes but that's the best we can do. Companies just want money, the gov't is truly an insidious part of society.

So did you think Roosevelt and Taft busting up all those monopolies was bad? Or should they have let it rock?
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Goldice
12/14/17 1:05:19 PM
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How exactly, did enforcing that ISPs treat internet traffic as neutral, did the government get control over the internet?

If anything, this just gives ISPs control over the internet. As opposed to treating all traffic the same.
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F1areaGaman
12/14/17 1:05:28 PM
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The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.
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Goldice
12/14/17 1:05:56 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


Just use another ISP.

Oh...
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LightHawKnight
12/14/17 1:06:30 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.
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andel
12/14/17 1:08:32 PM
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tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af
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andel
12/14/17 1:08:59 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.


some of them have monopolies in areas
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RchHomieQuanChi
12/14/17 1:09:33 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.


Not sure if you know this, but most Americans don't have many options as far as ISPs.
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StraightMACLIN
12/14/17 1:09:42 PM
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Goldice posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


Just use another ISP.

Oh...


lol. Good luck on that if you're not in a major city.
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Goldice
12/14/17 1:10:43 PM
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StraightMACLIN posted...
Goldice posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


Just use another ISP.

Oh...


lol. Good luck on that if you're not in a major city.


That's the joke.

Good luck with that even if you are. Major providers are still few and far between, and they'll go all in on this together.
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Holy_Cloud105
12/14/17 1:10:50 PM
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StraightMACLIN posted...
Goldice posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


Just use another ISP.

Oh...


lol. Good luck on that if you're not in a major city.

Major cities don't have much choice either. Here in NYC your choices are pretty much Verizon and Spectrum/Time Warner if you want decent internet.
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LightHawKnight
12/14/17 1:11:03 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.


Not sure if you know this, but most Americans don't have many options as far as ISPs.


Do you really think Ijit Pai is a typo?
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chrono625
12/14/17 1:11:11 PM
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andel posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.


some of them have monopolies in areas


This.

I have 2 ISP's in my area.

Comcast and Verizon. Comcast is trash and Verizon is that same trash buy a tad shinier.
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LightHawKnight
12/14/17 1:11:45 PM
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chrono625 posted...
andel posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
F1areaGaman posted...
The difference is if the government misuses the power we can vote them out.

When a corporation does it wtf do we do.


As Ijit Pai says, go find another corporation that isn't going to screw you over.


some of them have monopolies in areas


This.

I have 2 ISP's in my area.

Comcast and Verizon. Comcast is trash and Verizon is that same trash buy a tad shinier.


Again, do you think Ijit Pai is a typo?
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KazumaKiryu
12/14/17 1:12:32 PM
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andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.
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Goldice
12/14/17 1:13:53 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.


How is treating all internet traffic equally "control".
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KazumaKiryu
12/14/17 1:20:51 PM
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Goldice posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.


How is treating all internet traffic equally "control".


Ah so it's just that magically word equality that fools you.

It's FCC regulation.
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metralo
12/14/17 1:22:14 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.


lol, trump is in big business pockets. he gives no fucks about people other than the 1%. you think he won't have more control this way?
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Giant_Aspirin
12/14/17 1:26:34 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I hope you people realize that. It's not about protecting consumers. You're being led along like complete sheep and freaking out like it's the end of the world.


i feel the exact same way except i support net neutrality. funny.
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KazumaKiryu
12/14/17 1:39:14 PM
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metralo posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.


lol, trump is in big business pockets. he gives no fucks about people other than the 1%. you think he won't have more control this way?


Right, so quick history lesson for you. Trump has been doing a great job as president helping the middle class recover from the Obama era, where we have shrunk into poverty levels. The 1% got far richer during the Obama presidency thanks to his policies and anti-business regulations that drove them out of the country and into outsourcing.

Sound crazy? It's the truth though.

You really need to get over this Trump being a hobgoblin stuff.
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TheSockMonster
12/14/17 1:40:41 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
metralo posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
andel posted...
tc is an obvious trumpanzee who is obviously ignorant af


Yeah I'm ignorant yet you want Trump in charge of your internet? Again, repealing this would be relinquishing control.


lol, trump is in big business pockets. he gives no fucks about people other than the 1%. you think he won't have more control this way?


Right, so quick history lesson for you. Trump has been doing a great job as president helping the middle class recover from the Obama era, where we have shrunk into poverty levels. The 1% got far richer during the Obama presidency thanks to his policies and anti-business regulations that drove them out of the country and into outsourcing.

Sound crazy? It's the truth though.

You really need to get over this Trump being a hobgoblin stuff.

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cerealbox760
12/14/17 1:43:14 PM
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Net neutrality allows the FCC to regulate the internet.
Repealing net neutrality allows ISP to regulate the internet.

Regulation happens regardless.

If repealing net neutrality is supposed breed competition, why are mega corps pushing to get it repealed? Wouldn't it be in their best financial interest to keep competition low? Are cable companies running some sort of charity all the sudden?
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Holy_Cloud105
12/14/17 1:53:28 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
Net neutrality allows the FCC to regulate the internet.
Repealing net neutrality allows ISP to regulate the internet.

Regulation happens regardless.

If repealing net neutrality is supposed breed competition, why are mega corps pushing to get it repealed? Wouldn't it be in their best financial interest to keep competition low? Are cable companies running some sort of charity all the sudden?

I don't understand why people keep ignoring the fact Google was priced out because they were being charged 10k per pole from AT&T and Time Warner. Competition will NEVER exist as far as ISP's are concerned again.
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TheCyborgNinja
12/14/17 1:55:17 PM
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Well, a couple of years from now we will see if any of this mattered.
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LightHawKnight
12/14/17 2:38:26 PM
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cerealbox760 posted...
Net neutrality allows the FCC to regulate the internet.
Repealing net neutrality allows ISP to regulate the internet.

Regulation happens regardless.

If repealing net neutrality is supposed breed competition, why are mega corps pushing to get it repealed? Wouldn't it be in their best financial interest to keep competition low? Are cable companies running some sort of charity all the sudden?


You do realize that ISPs have a regional monopoly right? There will never be competition until their monopoly gets broken. Google failed to even get a foot in, guess what will happen to any new ISP?
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