Board 8 > It's official! Disney buys most of Fox

(+) Yeah! (+)

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/media/disney-fox-deal/index.html

Almost all of Marvel is back under one roof.
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Oh god. Disney is now basically a monopoly lol
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yeah, i wonder what marvel characters AREN'T owned by disney now? obviously paramount owns the transformers and g.i. joe, and i think sub-mariner is with some non-disney company.
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Fantastic 4 is still a mess.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, i wonder what marvel characters AREN'T owned by disney now? obviously paramount owns the transformers and g.i. joe, and i think sub-mariner is with some non-disney company.

Sony owns Spiderman.
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Terastodon posted...

Fantastic 4 is still a mess.

That's cuz of Fox being clueless.
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Damn that's scary...
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yeah, i don't really get how the rights of the spider-man characters work. obviously homecoming was an MCU movie, but the upcoming venom and black cat movies are still going to be from sony.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, i don't really get how the rights of the spider-man characters work. obviously homecoming was an MCU movie, but the upcoming venom and black cat movies are still going to be from sony.

They are letting marvel borrow Spiderman in their movies for just a couple movies to try and jump start interest in Spiderman and in return for them helping them make better Spiderman movies.

Already talks about how Sony plans to take Spiderman out of mcu after 2 or 3 films and bring venom and such into his universe completely.
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This is unreal
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Mickey: Oh, boy, Pluto! It's time to fuck some shit UP!
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Disney Presents: It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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Goddamnit

Well, X-Men was nice while it lasted

Wonder if we'll still see New Mutants next year or if Disney will can it
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Johnbobb posted...

Goddamnit

Well, X-Men was nice while it lasted

Wonder if we'll still see New Mutants next year or if Disney will can it

They already have trailers for it. I imagine it will be posted.
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Hopefully Legion doesn't become Disneyfied.
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I feel like people have forgotten that Disney did absolutely nothing except market the Marvel films. It's an in-house production company now.
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After Apocalypse sucked and with Wolverine done, I'm uninterested in more Fox Xmen, so nothing lost there.
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Disney has no problems canning shit. Look no further than Star Wars.

They will can every thing they do not feel fits with their vision.
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LapisLazuli posted...

After Apocalypse sucked and with Wolverine done, I'm uninterested in more Fox Xmen, so nothing lost there.

That's weird, because the further we get away from the oversaturated characters with lame powers and personalities, the closer we get to teams like Peter David's X-Factor or Alan Davis' Excalibur, where all the cool kids hang out.
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I have...ZERO FAITH in such a future having been possible.
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Corrik posted...

Disney has no problems canning shit. Look no further than Star Wars.

They will can every thing they do not feel fits with their vision.

Disney canned nothing. Kathleen Kennedy runs the Star Wars universe with an iron grip and, as Lucas' right hand woman, when she took the reins, she instituted policies she had wanted for a while. Disney;s purchase only led to inevitable changes.
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LapisLazuli posted...

I have...ZERO FAITH in such a future having been possible.

Right, because under the Disney banner, no one is expanding the Marvel universes with also-rans.

For the record, X-Men secondary titles in the 90s outsold every Ant-Man comic ever and every Doctor Strange run ever.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

Disney has no problems canning shit. Look no further than Star Wars.

They will can every thing they do not feel fits with their vision.

Disney canned nothing. Kathleen Kennedy runs the Star Wars universe with an iron grip and, as Lucas' right hand woman, when she took the reins, she instituted policies she had wanted for a while. Disney;s purchase only led to inevitable changes.

So they canned shit. You can call it whatever you want to. As soon as Disney took over, they immediately instituted changes to the property.
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I don't know why you have so much faith in Fox after a couple lucky wins, both likely made good in SPITE of studio efforts.
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Fox was decent. Had some great casting in the original X-Men films. I felt they did well with the property. It has room for improvement. Fantastic Four however was an utter train wreck.
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Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

Disney has no problems canning shit. Look no further than Star Wars.

They will can every thing they do not feel fits with their vision.

Disney canned nothing. Kathleen Kennedy runs the Star Wars universe with an iron grip and, as Lucas' right hand woman, when she took the reins, she instituted policies she had wanted for a while. Disney;s purchase only led to inevitable changes.

So they canned shit. You can call it whatever you want to. As soon as Disney took over, they immediately instituted changes to the property.

DISNEY canned nothing. This is what you're not getting. The only thing Disney actually pushed for is more product. Oh, and they canned Dark Horse comics so Marvel would be in-house on the production of their comics. That's it. Kathleen Kennedy was planning to kill the larger universe as soon as she took over as it was pretty much a prerequisite for any director who started work on a new trilogy. That would have happened at Paramount or Universal or wherever.
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LapisLazuli posted...

I don't know why you have so much faith in Fox after a couple lucky wins, both likely made good in SPITE of studio efforts.

I didn't say I had faith. I just said I was getting excited because we were about to embark in a realm of characters who are just fucking cool. IE: Legion.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

Disney has no problems canning shit. Look no further than Star Wars.

They will can every thing they do not feel fits with their vision.

Disney canned nothing. Kathleen Kennedy runs the Star Wars universe with an iron grip and, as Lucas' right hand woman, when she took the reins, she instituted policies she had wanted for a while. Disney;s purchase only led to inevitable changes.

So they canned shit. You can call it whatever you want to. As soon as Disney took over, they immediately instituted changes to the property.

DISNEY canned nothing. This is what you're not getting. The only thing Disney actually pushed for is more product. Oh, and they canned Dark Horse comics so Marvel would be in-house on the production of their comics. That's it. Kathleen Kennedy was planning to kill the larger universe as soon as she took over as it was pretty much a prerequisite for any director who started work on a new trilogy. That would have happened at Paramount or Universal or wherever.

https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/28/6854985/incomplete-episodes-from-canceled-star-wars-the-clone-wars-animated

I mean, you are wrong, and you are arguing your position with a very matter of fact asshole attitude.

"Star Wars fans were none-too-pleased when animated cable TV show The Clone Wars was unceremoniously cancelled last year following Disney's purchase of LucasFilm. The show was in the middle of production on its sixth season when Disney pulled the plug, and fans were left with lots of open storylines. "

"After months of fan excitement and upbeat rumors following Disneys acquisition of Lucasfilm, it appears that the other shoe has started to drop. In an announcement on the official Star Wars site Monday optimistically entitled A New Direction for Lucasfilm Animation, the company announced the cancellation of its successful Star Wars: The Clone Wars series on Cartoon Network and indefinite postponement of Star Wars: Detours, a second animated series created by the team behind Adult Swims Robot Chicken."
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Corrik.

Please.
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Oh, please don't show me Graeme McMillan articles. That guy is terrible

And, let's not forget, they cancelled Clone Wars to launch Rebels. Which is the same production company, with the same workers. Since the "cancellation", that was a decision made in-house to make a shift earlier since they wanted to push Rebels on their own networks.

Detours, yeah, that's a cancellation. But it's not even in-house, so who cares? Let's also not forget that TV doesn't matter - viewership for Star Wars shows is piss-poor. Disney isn't going to can New Mutants is the point that matters here. They are looking to make this thing called money. Clone Wars wasn't really doing that because it was a television show.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, i wonder what marvel characters AREN'T owned by disney now? obviously paramount owns the transformers and g.i. joe, and i think sub-mariner is with some non-disney company.

did you just call the transformers and g.i. joe marvel characters
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i mean, i never expected legion to show up in a movie or a tv show. x-factor and excalibur can definitely happen.
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PrinceKaro posted...

did you just call the transformers and g.i. joe marvel characters

not entirely sure how the rights of those franchises work but marvel published the comics, at least. spider-man and nick fury have appeared in transformers comics.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i mean, i never expected legion to show up in a movie or a tv show. x-factor and excalibur can definitely happen.

I think they can too. It just means it's all probably delayed because Disney's highest priority (unless New Mutants does gangbusters) will be to reincorporate the big boring guns back into the MCU.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

PrinceKaro posted...

did you just call the transformers and g.i. joe marvel characters

not entirely sure how the rights of those franchises work but marvel published the comics, at least. spider-man and nick fury have appeared in transformers comics.

Transformers and G.I. Joe are both at IDW now.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

PrinceKaro posted...

did you just call the transformers and g.i. joe marvel characters

not entirely sure how the rights of those franchises work but marvel published the comics, at least. spider-man and nick fury have appeared in transformers comics.

Theyre owned by Hasbro and licensed out for everything else. I believe IDW has the current comic license?
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Corrik posted...

I mean, you are wrong, and you are arguing your position with a very matter of fact asshole attitude.

Also, don't impinge your own attitudes onto me. We were having a fun discussion, don't ruin it by feigning outrage.
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ah ok.
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Disney now controls Live Action Goku

Goku vs Thanos with full Infinity Gauntlet who ya got
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i am a simple man.

all i need is doom in good things.

that's it.
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I just realized that Disney now owns Blue Sky Animation and all their characters

so now they now control three of the big five american animation studios and their only serious competitor is universal
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Goku vs Thanos with full Infinity Gauntlet who ya got

Because of the way he was beaten I'd go with Goku.

IT over to his body that he stopped caring about...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

I mean, you are wrong, and you are arguing your position with a very matter of fact asshole attitude.

Also, don't impinge your own attitudes onto me. We were having a fun discussion, don't ruin it by feigning outrage.

You were wrong. I knew you were wrong from the start. I knew you thought I was talking about the EU when I was talking about Clone Wars from the start. But, yeah, that is how you were acting.

You don't have to say you were wrong. Regarding it, but what I am pointing out is that Disney will cancel anything they feel isn't up to their par, in the direction they want, or as they see fit.

Hell Clone Wars was an emmy-winning cartoon oddly enough as that sounds lol.

Will they? Maybe not in that scenario. Could they? Yes.
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PrinceKaro posted...

I just realized that Disney now owns Blue Sky Animation and all their characters

so now they now control three of the big five american animation studios and their only serious competitor is universal

Yeah, I could see the Ice Age franchise being dead now.
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Boring.



Simpsons already did it.
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FFDragon posted...

Boring.



Simpsons already did it.

Scary... also now owned by Disney?
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Corrik posted...

Will they? Maybe not in that scenario. Could they? Yes.

Well, since you refuse to acknowledge that I was just having a fun conversation and you need to be extremely serious for you, I really don't know what to say, but this is the kind of attitude that exists in the world that results in fans of anything becoming embittered and awful. Could they? What kind of question is this? They could recast every single character with three-year-olds. They could do so many things that are reasonable or unreasonable. This concept that "Oh Disney canned the final season of a marginally low-rated cartoon on a network Disney doesn't own because they were already in pre-production on another cartoon Disney could run it on their own network so therefore they'll cancel New Mutants" is a pretty big leap in logic, and it spins things so negatively.

Is Disney going to cancel the Avatar sequels? Probably not. They make money. Is Disney going to cancel a virtually finished X-film? Probably not. It's a chance for them to test balloon a concept that can be passed off as "Not our problem. Not under our banner." But if it makes money, they'll be sure as shit making more. Again, there's a difference between something 15 million people watch (predictive attendance for a New Mutants film) and something less than 1.5 million people watch (Clone Wars).
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Corrik posted...

I knew you thought I was talking about the EU when I was talking about Clone Wars from the start. But, yeah, that is how you were acting.

"I knew you were speaking about the important headline-grabbing cancellation and not the low-rated show on another network that was dying a death, but I like to sit back and hold ammunition because I don't want to be a friend and a fellow peer discussing something and instead like to think of all conversations as a game to win and not an exchange of ideas to better each and every person involved."
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there's no reason to cancel any of the X-Men stuff that is already being worked on. It's going to be at least a couple years before the characters could be integrated into the MCU anyway.

this may not be good for the Gambit movie though since they haven't even started filming
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