Current Events > Philadelphia to vote on bill to ban protective barriers at corner stores

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Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

Selling drugs is a criminal activity right now. Even if drugs were legal, what youre describing would not be legal since it would be untaxed. You support criminals.

I don't consider them criminals, even if by definition they are. There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law.

Would you consider someone who took part in the underground railroad a criminal? If not, then why not? They were by definition criminals, since they were breaking the law by helping slaves run away.

Did you just equate Philly coke dealers to runaway slaves?
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masticatingman posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

Selling drugs is a criminal activity right now. Even if drugs were legal, what youre describing would not be legal since it would be untaxed. You support criminals.

I don't consider them criminals, even if by definition they are. There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law.

Would you consider someone who took part in the underground railroad a criminal? If not, then why not? They were by definition criminals, since they were breaking the law by helping slaves run away.

Did you just equate Philly coke dealers to runaway slaves?

My point is that "the law" isn't always right, and being against a bad law does not mean I support criminals, I just think people shouldn't be considered criminals for breaking a bad law

Darklit_Minuet posted...

There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law

Yeah, all those drug dealers selling substances laced with massive amounts of fentanyl that kill people stateside in droves. Theyre really the do-gooders. You got me there

How does this tie in to bulletproof glass making people feel like theyre being treated as potential criminals again? Lol.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

Selling drugs is a criminal activity right now. Even if drugs were legal, what youre describing would not be legal since it would be untaxed. You support criminals.

I don't consider them criminals, even if by definition they are. There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law.

Would you consider someone who took part in the underground railroad a criminal? If not, then why not? They were by definition criminals, since they were breaking the law by helping slaves run away.

...the entire point of the law is the definition.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

Selling drugs is a criminal activity right now. Even if drugs were legal, what youre describing would not be legal since it would be untaxed. You support criminals.

I don't consider them criminals, even if by definition they are. There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law.

Would you consider someone who took part in the underground railroad a criminal? If not, then why not? They were by definition criminals, since they were breaking the law by helping slaves run away.

Did you just equate Philly coke dealers to runaway slaves?

My point is that "the law" isn't always right, and being against a bad law does not mean I support criminals, I just think people shouldn't be considered criminals for breaking a bad law

Ill take that as a definitive yes. Wow.
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masticatingman posted...

How does this tie in to bulletproof glass making people feel like theyre being treated as potential criminals again? Lol.

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everyone is a potential criminal. I thought that was obvious
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masticatingman posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

There's nothing wrong with breaking a bad law

Yeah, all those drug dealers selling substances laced with massive amounts of fentanyl that kill people stateside in droves. Theyre really the do-gooders. You got me there

How does this tie in to bulletproof glass making people feel like theyre being treated as potential criminals again? Lol.

It's like you're a broken record at this point. You going to keep bringing up that glass that I explained multiple times?
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

eggcorn posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

Oh yeah, because I feel such a connection with all the other random ass gas station workers I meet that aren't behind bulletproof glass.

I know I don't feel like I'm being treated as a criminal when I walk into any bank or store in my city. If they suddenly put up protective barriers, I would.

Then you have a guilty conscience. If I go into a place with protective barriers I don't assume it's because of me.

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Again, this isn't a vacuum. If you stop treating people like potential criminals, they'll start treating you better. Take down the bulletproof glass, stop throwing them in jail for drugs, stop pulling them over without a valid reason, and the situation will improve

You're crazy. Do you think these little mom and pops want to spend money on this type of shit?

If we don't build a wall, people won't illegally come here
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eggcorn posted...

You're crazy. Do you think these little mom and pops want to spend money on this type of shit?

People love being dicks to others, even if it ends up costing them business. Look at the gay cake bakery shit going on

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

If we don't build a wall, people won't illegally come here

Well yeah, why would they even want to come here if the other side wasn't so alluring and tempting? By not having a wall, it looks like you have nothing to hide

Remember the South Park episode where Cartman bought his own theme park, refused to let anyone else into it, then ended up becoming wildly successful because everyone wanted to go to it?

If you tempt someone with a forbidden fruit they'll want it, even if they wouldn't care otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXxmt2Sk70Q

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.
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gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Yeah no one is that stupid. Except the Philadelphia council apparently.
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I hope all of these workers have an exit strategy to leave that shithole if this passes. I would not be putting up with that shit at all and I would never risk my life over job security.
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The convenience store barriers are not innately racist or discriminating towards any law-abiding citizens since ethnic/racial diversity is common now in store employees. The barriers HELP PROTECT law-abiding citizens and lower local crime rates.

If you're a law-breaking citizen with a record of armed robbery, well that particular law is not in place to protect you. It's to deter you...get over it.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Take down the barriers, people will feel trusted, and they won't become criminals.

What? Lmao, ahahahahhahaa

Comedy gold right there.
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Far left liberals care more about their image than the safety of their people smh

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

I always wondered... why these liquor stores don't just leave these high crime areas and set up shop in the 'burbs?

if there were corner stores on every corner in suburban areas, suburban kids wouldn't have to get into such wacky adventures for beer.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

I always wondered... why these liquor stores don't just leave these high crime areas and set up shop in the 'burbs?

if there were corner stores on every corner in suburban areas, suburban kids wouldn't have to get into such wacky adventures for beer.

Because anywhere there are people wanting to buy something, someone stands to profit by selling it.

The reason they don't leave the area is because of profit.

Someone will ALWAYS fill that vacuum if left open, again, because of profit.
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And the urban "food desert" grew two sizes bigger that day.

I like how there's two topics on this and all I'd have to do is post the titles for someone to be able to tell which one Mal made.
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This Councilwoman in 2019: "It's racist how no business owners will open convenience stores the inner city!"
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The Admiral posted...

This Councilwoman in 2019: "It's racist how no business owners will open convenience stores the inner city!"

Legalize alcohol vending machines.
Problem solved.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The Admiral posted...

This Councilwoman in 2019: "It's racist how no business owners will open convenience stores the inner city!"

Legalize alcohol vending machines.
Problem solved.

2020: "its racist to bolt alcohol vending machines to the concrete just because people are throwing them into their trucks and driving away with them!"
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Ban bank vaults and bank security too

They're obviously racist tbh.
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Dakr_manlet believes that there is such thing as a "no accent" way of speaking. Guy shit posts for the sake of it, ignore him.
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Everyone that wants to vote yes on this should first have to work 1 week at a store in a neighborhood with a barrier.
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gmanthebest posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.

Sorry you feel so cynical about humanity. I can't imagine considering everyone a potential criminal, you must be terrified

The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Except there's no threat to their safety.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Philadelphia

Philadelphia consistently ranks above the national average in terms of crime, especially violent offenses. It has the highest violent crime rate of the ten American cities with a population greater than 1 million residents, as well as the highest poverty rate among these cities. It has been included in real estate analytics company NeighborhoodScout's "Top 100 Most Dangerous Cities in America" list every year since it has been compiled. Much of the crime is concentrated in the North, West, and Southwest sections of the city.

That's why Will Smith had to move in with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Lmao
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

People are literally complaining about a show of trust.

I'd hate to live in your world, where you don't feel safe without a barrier keeping you permanently disconnected from other people. God, I know this place is for antisocial losers, but I didn't think it was this bad

I mean I gotta be honest if a neighborhood/location of a store has a high robbery/burglary rate then the barriers are pretty justified
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If anything, if my neighborhood was that shitty, I'd probably be happy as a customer that the Plexiglas barrier was up. Less chance that the store will be robbed while I'm in it and I get mugged/caught in gun fire. Also note that one of the reasons given by store owners is that people were loitering in the open stores, which also scares away other customers. Especially since it mentions that police response times are abysmal in the inner city.
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Won't someone please think of the criminals feelings
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.

Sorry you feel so cynical about humanity. I can't imagine considering everyone a potential criminal, you must be terrified

When you live in a shitty neighborhood with high criminal activity rates, then yeah I think it's pretty justified in being cynical.
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DezCaughtIt posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

People are literally complaining about a show of trust.

I'd hate to live in your world, where you don't feel safe without a barrier keeping you permanently disconnected from other people. God, I know this place is for antisocial losers, but I didn't think it was this bad

I mean I gotta be honest if a neighborhood/location of a store has a high robbery/burglary rate then the barriers are pretty justified

Apparently personal responsibility for one's own safety equates to being unreasonably scared in the face of a diverse neighborhood. Meanwhile, when people get robbed and shot/killed in their place of business it's just an unfortunate part of life, and completely unavoibable.
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The Admiral posted...

If anything, if my neighborhood was that shitty, I'd probably be happy as a customer that the Plexiglas barrier was up. Less change that the store will be robbed while I'm in it and I get caught in mugged/caught in gun fire. Also note that one of the reasons given by store owners is that people were loitering in the open stores, which also scare away other customers. Especially since it notes that police response times are abysmal in the inner city.

what should the police do, if anything, about their reaction time in the inner city?
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This is the dumbest shit Ive ever read. People are going to get shot and the robberies are going to go up through the roof. Businesses are going to leave the shit parts of Philadelphia and those areas are going to turn into a bigger cesspool due to having less businesses.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

The Admiral posted...

If anything, if my neighborhood was that shitty, I'd probably be happy as a customer that the Plexiglas barrier was up. Less change that the store will be robbed while I'm in it and I get caught in mugged/caught in gun fire. Also note that one of the reasons given by store owners is that people were loitering in the open stores, which also scare away other customers. Especially since it notes that police response times are abysmal in the inner city.

what should the police do, if anything, about their reaction time in the inner city?

Not sure what they can do. Those poor inner city areas have the double-whammy of contributing very little in taxes but consuming a high amount of police resources. They need more cops but can't afford them. If the money isn't there, the money isn't there.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

masticatingman posted...

That doesnt have anything to do with bulletproof glass. Again, seeing bulletproof glass shouldnt make somebody wanna commit a crime

Again, this isn't a vacuum. If you stop treating people like potential criminals, they'll start treating you better. Take down the bulletproof glass, stop throwing them in jail for drugs, stop pulling them over without a valid reason, and the situation will improve

Are you being serious? Just wanna make sure before I waste my time with a response
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The Admiral posted...

Not sure what they can do. Those poor inner city areas have the double-whammy of contributing very little in taxes but consuming a high amount of police resources. They need more cops but can't afford them. If the money isn't there, the money isn't there.

are cops financed on a sub-local level like that? I know they are arranged into precincts, but I thought that was more about hierarchies than funding
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The fuck is this? Bulletproof glass is racist?

Lib idiots being idiots.
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VectorChaos posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

The Admiral posted...

This Councilwoman in 2019: "It's racist how no business owners will open convenience stores the inner city!"

Legalize alcohol vending machines.
Problem solved.

2020: "its racist to bolt alcohol vending machines to the concrete just because people are throwing them into their trucks and driving away with them!"

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probably.

Prestoff posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.

Sorry you feel so cynical about humanity. I can't imagine considering everyone a potential criminal, you must be terrified

When you live in a shitty neighborhood with high criminal activity rates, then yeah I think it's pretty justified in being cynical.

So take down the barriers and make your neighbourhood better

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Prestoff posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.

Sorry you feel so cynical about humanity. I can't imagine considering everyone a potential criminal, you must be terrified

When you live in a shitty neighborhood with high criminal activity rates, then yeah I think it's pretty justified in being cynical.

So take down the barriers and make your neighbourhood better

Not until the day you admit that there is no such as "no accents".
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Darklit confusing cause and effect, colour me surprised.

In case you're not smart enough to understand: the CAUSE is a higher crime rate area, the EFFECT is that bulletproof glass is used to protect employees and assets. Honestly, it's not THAT difficult to comprehend. Unless you're just trolling, of course.

Why are you so damn sure it's the opposite? My theory is just as likely as yours

Ok, thank you for confirming that you're trolling.

Sorry you feel so cynical about humanity. I can't imagine considering everyone a potential criminal, you must be terrified

Not at all. I live in a good place. I'm just a realistic person.
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At this point im not sure if Philadelphia or all of California are better living proof of how cancerous liberal laws based on feelings are. Philly is just that bad.
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