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foreveraIone
12/08/17 8:42:53 PM
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nt
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Electrokinesis
12/08/17 8:45:40 PM
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I doubt it.
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foreveraIone
12/08/17 8:46:04 PM
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who is then?
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DifferentialEquation
12/08/17 8:46:43 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
who is then?


@Mal_Fet
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foreveraIone
12/08/17 8:46:59 PM
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shut up DE
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The Admiral
12/08/17 8:47:37 PM
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He ridicules people who won't consider banging transgenders, so that calls his intellect into question at the very least.
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DifferentialEquation
12/08/17 8:48:15 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
shut up DE


Nope.
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nicklebro
12/08/17 8:49:57 PM
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Smartest crack user.

Jk, woulda made that joke no matter who this topic was about.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:50:11 PM
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He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed. He said this when he was trying to explain why people would still work under a communist system.
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Resolution
12/08/17 8:50:52 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed


Somehow I doubt that

@COVxy
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DifferentialEquation
12/08/17 8:50:59 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed. He said this when he was trying to explain why people would still work under a communist system.


LMAO

did he really?
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:51:08 PM
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I swear to god he said that
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nicklebro
12/08/17 8:53:28 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed. He said this when he was trying to explain why people would still work under a communist system.

Oh was he the one that said native americans were communists and that proves that communism would work just fine in America? Someone said that, not sure who.
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The Admiral
12/08/17 8:53:54 PM
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nicklebro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed. He said this when he was trying to explain why people would still work under a communist system.

Oh was he the one that said native americans were communists and that proves that communism would work just fine in America? Someone said that, not sure who.


I think that was Mr. Dimblub.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:54:01 PM
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nicklebro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed. He said this when he was trying to explain why people would still work under a communist system.

Oh was he the one that said native americans were communists and that proves that communism would work just fine in America? Someone said that, not sure who.


I did not see him say that but I wouldn't be surprised if he said it. Although it might've been averagejoel, Antifar, Godnorgosh, or Omnislasher.
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COVxy
12/08/17 8:54:37 PM
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Resolution posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed


Somehow I doubt that

@COVxy


I said assuming that the only reason people work is for monetary incentive is incorrect, and that there is some intrinsic motivation for work in and of itself.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:55:36 PM
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Oh no you said a lot more than that lmao. I pressed the issue multiple times and you were really adamant about denying that people wouldn't work full-time if they weren't being paid.
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The Admiral
12/08/17 8:56:49 PM
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COVxy posted...
Resolution posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed


Somehow I doubt that

@COVxy


I said assuming that the only reason people work is for monetary incentive is incorrect, and that there is some intrinsic motivation for work in and of itself.


Right. That "intrinsic motivation" will produce a society with enough people who want to clean highway shitters for a living.

There is a reason every Communist nation becomes authoritarian. People need to be coerced via threat of force or death to do the required work short of a monetary incentive.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:56:53 PM
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Anyway the smartest user here...well, it's not any single person.

Darkman, Balrog, Questionmarktarius, Admiral, etc are really smart. I used to have a list of smart CEmen but I don't remember where it is :(
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:57:32 PM
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The Admiral posted...
COVxy posted...
Resolution posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed


Somehow I doubt that

@COVxy


I said assuming that the only reason people work is for monetary incentive is incorrect, and that there is some intrinsic motivation for work in and of itself.


Right. That "intrinsic motivation" will produce a society with enough people who want to clean highway shitters for a living.

There is a reason every Communist nation becomes authoritarian. People need to be coerced via threat of force or death to do the required work short of a monetary incentive.


That is essentially what I was arguing and yet he was obfuscating the shit out of the topic, all because he refused to accept that.
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COVxy
12/08/17 8:58:12 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Oh no you said a lot more than that lmao. I pressed the issue multiple times and you were really adamant about denying that people wouldn't work full-time if they weren't being paid.


I'm quite sure many people would work full time, yes.

Given that there are people that currently work for very little, it doesn't seem like a leap. The ratio of work to monetary pay off isn't linear, nor is it consistant.
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masticatingman
12/08/17 8:59:37 PM
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My vote would be Admiral. Lots of others show flashes though. I think a lot of people just come on here to vent though.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 8:59:43 PM
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COVxy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Oh no you said a lot more than that lmao. I pressed the issue multiple times and you were really adamant about denying that people wouldn't work full-time if they weren't being paid.


I'm quite sure many people would work full time, yes.

Given that there are people that currently work for very little, it doesn't seem like a leap. The ratio of work to monetary pay off isn't linear, nor is it consistant.


Most people would not work 40 hours a week for no pay. Clinging to that naive idea because of muh communizmz is insane.

Your PhD students might be slaving away in the lab 80 hours a week for shitty pay, but that's because they're under the delusion that they can get into academia.
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COVxy
12/08/17 9:00:18 PM
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The Admiral posted...
COVxy posted...
Resolution posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
He literally thinks people will always want to work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor, even if they weren't being paid, because otherwise they'd be bored/depressed


Somehow I doubt that

@COVxy


I said assuming that the only reason people work is for monetary incentive is incorrect, and that there is some intrinsic motivation for work in and of itself.


Right. That "intrinsic motivation" will produce a society with enough people who want to clean highway shitters for a living.

There is a reason every Communist nation becomes authoritarian. People need to be coerced via threat of force or death to do the required work short of a monetary incentive.


I was never once refering to the viability of a communist society or that particularly shitty jobs fall under this category. Proud just likes to misrepresent my arguments so that he sounds like the rational one.
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Resolution
12/08/17 9:03:41 PM
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COVxy posted...
Proud just likes to misrepresent my arguments so that he sounds like the rational one.


That's the exact vibe I was getting
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 9:03:56 PM
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COVxy posted...
I was never once refering to the viability of a communist society or that particularly s***ty jobs fall under this category. Proud just likes to misrepresent my arguments so that he sounds like the rational one.


That topic was a long debate on communism, mostly with Godnorgosh. You participated in that topic knowing the entire context of the topic, and seeing my repeated refutations of why people wouldn't work under communism. All of my responses to you were repeating that context, and you kept on denying it and asking me for behavioral studies lmfao.

Don't you remember?
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COVxy
12/08/17 9:04:26 PM
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(You do too, as i never ridiculed anyone about not wanting to bang a transgendered person)
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treewojima
12/08/17 9:05:32 PM
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-PHD student in neuroscience

- yet at the same time he's also the most well-versed when it comes to arts + culture

- has a great mind for mathematics yet is also probably the only person here who can expound on feminist critical theory or the semiotics of cinema

- conversant in most matters literary, cinematic, music, artistic, etc

- he's one of the few, if not the only, people here who read interesting magazines like the Paris Review

- he hosts his own college radio show where he plays avant garde/ outsider / left field music

- a genuine depth of understanding and original insight on most matters he speaks about

- excellent writer with a genuine appreciation for great prose style

meanwhile most of ce doesn't really care to know much about anything but engineering, video games, blockbuster films, etc
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 9:07:02 PM
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btw COVxy is actually a really smart guy too

except for when he's being unbelievably fucking stupid
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COVxy
12/08/17 9:07:35 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
All of my responses to you were repeating that context, and you kept on denying it and asking me for behavioral studies lmfao.


You made the claim that the presence of money was the important thing, and that in the presence of money, intrinsic motivation doesn't matter. I asked you to back that claim, as it is a very specific prediction about primary and secondary rewards. That the presence of secondary rewards devalue primary rewards.

That i remember, yes.
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DocileOrangeCup
12/08/17 9:09:00 PM
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 9:09:10 PM
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COVxy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
All of my responses to you were repeating that context, and you kept on denying it and asking me for behavioral studies lmfao.


You made the claim that the presence of money was the important thing, and that in the presence of money, intrinsic motivation doesn't matter. I asked you to back that claim, as it is a very specific prediction about primary and secondary rewards. That the presence of secondary rewards devalue primary rewards.

That i remember, yes.


The claim I made was that most people would not work 40 hours a week of backbreaking labor if they weren't being paid for it. I was also repeatedly mentioning that communism can't work, because that's what the topic and my claim were both about. That is the claim and context you were trying to deny.
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foreveraIone
12/08/17 9:09:22 PM
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ooh nice.

this topic went exactly as planned.
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KobeSystem
12/08/17 9:14:21 PM
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Darkman

Some people here are obviously pretty intelligent but they like acting like clowns most of the time

Like proudclown over here ;)
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FLUFFYGERM
12/08/17 9:15:38 PM
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oh I mean

Darkman isn't smart LMAO, he doesn't even understand how rockets work LOL!!!!!!!!!
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averagejoel
12/08/17 9:27:16 PM
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intelligence is kinda a subjective thing

he's smart though, and a good poster
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Soviet_Poland
12/08/17 9:35:06 PM
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COVxy uses language in a way that highlights his level of education. Sure education =/= intelligence necessarily, but generally speaking it's a decent approximation in this context. From what I've seen, he's pretty moderate and tempered in his stances and most criticisms seem to be from people who completely fail to recognize any nuance in his arguments.

I'm pretty biased because we studied the same subject in undergrad and tend to have similar perspectives from what I've noticed as a result.

Though I digress, CE's conservative brigade seems to be equivocating "smart" with political opinion. Ignoring the fact that determining "who is the smartest" is kind of a fool's errand to begin with.
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Callixtus
12/08/17 9:40:16 PM
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Soviet_Poland posted...
COVxy uses language in a way that highlights his level of education. Sure education =/= intelligence necessarily, but generally speaking it's a decent approximation in this context. From what I've seen, he's pretty moderate and tempered in his stances and most criticisms seem to be from people who completely fail to recognize any nuance in his arguments.

I'm pretty biased because we studied the same subject in undergrad and tend to have similar perspectives from what I've noticed as a result.

Though I digress, CE's conservative brigade seems to be equivocating "smart" with political opinion. Ignoring the fact that determining "who is the smartest" is kind of a fool's errand to begin with.

I'm sure COVxy is educated and probably intelligent, but he is one of the most hopelessly biased posters I have ever seen.

You can post a million stories and articles on certain topics, like the leftist bias in academia, and he will deflect until the cows come home.
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Soviet_Poland
12/08/17 9:47:31 PM
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Callixtus posted...
You can post a million stories and articles on certain topics, like the leftist bias in academia, and he will deflect until the cows come home.


To be fair, most of the time it's some obviously extremist or out of context story that is used by CE's conservatives to paint a broad generalization about "the left."

CE's right is trying to bait people into agreeing that everyone on the left is nuts. Whereas anyone who actually operates in the real world and doesn't base most of their opinions from the internet knows a lot of it is overblown. It's the same reason I don't vilify people with conservative beliefs. I have some of my own, even though I lean more "left" in general.

Almost every time I see COVxy post in those threads, it's him saying said story is overblown. And then CE's right takes that as tacit acceptance, and it couldn't be further from the truth.
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Questionmarktarius
12/08/17 11:20:05 PM
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As an alleged "smart" poster, I have no idea why I'm allegedly smart.
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