Current Events > America's farmers killing themselves in record numbers. Double Veteran rate.

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FLUFFYGERM
12/06/17 11:07:59 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/why-are-americas-farmers-killing-themselves-in-record-numbers
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r4X0r
12/06/17 11:09:25 AM
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We don't have robots that can handle that in this day and age?
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Antifar
12/06/17 11:09:55 AM
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America is Already Great
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pizz
12/06/17 11:11:59 AM
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It's about time rednecks became ashamed of themselves.
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Antifar
12/06/17 11:13:17 AM
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pizz posted...
It's about time rednecks became ashamed of themselves.

Don't do this
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FLUFFYGERM
12/06/17 11:13:49 AM
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pizz posted...

Aaaaaaaaand there goes a lunatic CEman who is okay with this just because most farmers are conservative. You're why Trump won.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/06/17 11:14:33 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
pizz posted...

Aaaaaaaaand there goes a lunatic CEman who is okay with this just because most farmers are conservative. You're why Trump won.

Luckily he won't win again, as half his potential voters will off themselves before the next election
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Burgess
12/06/17 11:14:41 AM
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But he would be for conservatives if he was why Trump won.
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Returning_CEmen
12/06/17 11:15:07 AM
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I'll read later
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untrustful
12/06/17 11:18:06 AM
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What a surprise, when people are forced to go into debt to run a farm, they feel they have no escape.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/06/17 11:19:01 AM
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why hasn't trump done anything for them?
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untrustful
12/06/17 11:24:26 AM
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While Senator Tom Harkin and other sympathetic legislators tried to earmark money for the FRSAN, they were outvoted. Rosmann says that several members of the House and Senate most of them Republicans were disingenuous. In an email, Rosmann wrote, They promised support to my face and to others who approached them to support the FRSAN, but when it came time to vote they did not support appropriating money Often they claimed it was an unnecessary expenditure which would increase the national debt, while also saying healthy farmers are the most important asset to agricultural production.

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YourDrunkFather
12/06/17 11:29:17 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
pizz posted...

Aaaaaaaaand there goes a lunatic CEman who is okay with this just because most farmers are conservative. You're why Trump won.

Luckily he won't win again, as half his potential voters will off themselves before the next election


Love trumps hate!
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davyheinz
12/06/17 11:40:56 AM
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Thats sad.

OpheliaAdenade posted...
why hasn't trump done anything for them?

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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/06/17 11:43:44 AM
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r4X0r posted...
We don't have robots that can handle that in this day and age?


Probably but do we really want to train robots to kill our farmers?
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DifferentialEquation
12/06/17 11:43:54 AM
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*farmers committing suicide

SJWs: "Take that, conservatives!"
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COVxy
12/06/17 11:45:05 AM
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To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.
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Bloodychess
12/06/17 11:46:45 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
*farmers committing suicide

SJWs: "Take that, conservatives!"


Same response with the coal miners.

"When they go low, we go high!"
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Drpooplol
12/06/17 11:48:28 AM
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COVxy posted...
To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.

Maybe, but it's also an interesting/sad topic I'm sure many people, including myself, weren't aware of.
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Delta_F14
12/06/17 11:48:38 AM
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Not surprised those posts are still up, with how shitty the mods on this board are.
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Balrog0
12/06/17 11:50:06 AM
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Wow, I'm not surprised it is high but I am surprised it is that high.
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ChromaticAngel
12/06/17 11:51:14 AM
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pizz posted...
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User since September 2017

Who wants to guess who this is?
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Bloodychess
12/06/17 11:51:57 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
pizz posted...
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User since September 2017

Who wants to guess who this is?


Darklit_Minuet posted...

Probably this guy
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sktgamer_13dude
12/06/17 11:53:33 AM
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r4X0r posted...
We don't have robots that can handle that in this day and age?

Modern tractors and farming equipment are heavily computerized with stuff like GPS settings and whatnot.

The problem is that theyre very expensive investments that are hard to pay back. Along with shit companies like Monsanto basically forcing farmers to buy their seeds, farming is very expensive and its hard to actually make money doing it.
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MakoReizei
12/06/17 11:54:04 AM
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pizz posted...

rednecks feed America
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FLUFFYGERM
12/06/17 11:54:50 AM
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COVxy posted...
To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.


I didn't even say anything about liberals. Try again, poser.
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Anteaterking
12/06/17 11:55:22 AM
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COVxy
12/06/17 11:56:59 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
COVxy posted...
To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.


I didn't even say anything about liberals. Try again, poser.


Right, since you often post in a nonpartisan form.

People take you as a partisan hack/troll because you act like one. If you want people to take your serious posts more seriously, maybe you want to consider changing your pattern of posting behavior.
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ChromaticAngel
12/06/17 11:58:24 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
r4X0r posted...
We don't have robots that can handle that in this day and age?

Modern tractors and farming equipment are heavily computerized with stuff like GPS settings and whatnot.

The problem is that theyre very expensive investments that are hard to pay back. Along with shit companies like Monsanto basically forcing farmers to buy their seeds, farming is very expensive and its hard to actually make money doing it.


Monsanto is only part of the problem.

Farmers are going further into debt because of taxes on the land they own that they can't afford to pay. So as a result they sell off what they own and then have to rent it back from the people they sold it to and it just keeps getting worse and worse.

Jimmy Carter was the last time we actually had any people in power that actually cared about farmers.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/06/17 12:00:32 PM
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COVxy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
COVxy posted...
To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.


I didn't even say anything about liberals. Try again, poser.


Right, since you often post in a nonpartisan form.

People take you as a partisan hack/troll because you act like one. If you want people to take your serious posts more seriously, maybe you want to consider changing your pattern of posting behavior.


Stop being bitter and butthurt just because I spanked you for defending communism in that one topic. I posted this topic without any commentary whatsoever, and there's no precedent with which you can say this was a topic aimed at "liberals"

Go command some first-year PhD slaves, you poser
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Bloodychess
12/06/17 12:01:22 PM
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COVxy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
COVxy posted...
To be fair, the only reason TC made this topic is to accuse liberals.


I didn't even say anything about liberals. Try again, poser.


Right, since you often post in a nonpartisan form.

People take you as a partisan hack/troll because you act like one. If you want people to take your serious posts more seriously, maybe you want to consider changing your pattern of posting behavior.


There's a logical fallacy to be found here, I forget what it is though
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Balrog0
12/06/17 12:02:31 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Does this mean we can talk about mental health?


in my experience people love to talk about it, just not do anything concrete to make the problems better
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cjsdowg
12/06/17 12:03:10 PM
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Wow this is SUPER horrible. These people Trust the GOP and got messed over. Who would have guessed that would have happened. Normally the GOP mess over everyone one else to help people like this.
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/17 12:03:40 PM
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Decades of ag subsidies screwing up the market, combined with decades of increasing property taxes and bloated land values, was just a perfect storm waiting to happen.
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REMercsChamp
12/06/17 12:04:47 PM
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Why is that news article written like a short story
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Anteaterking
12/06/17 12:05:40 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
in my experience people love to talk about it, just not do anything concrete to make the problems better


As someone who works closer to healthcare related things, are there any proposals or bills to get behind that address things?
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Bloodychess
12/06/17 12:26:12 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Wow this is SUPER horrible. These people Trust the GOP and got messed over. Who would have guessed that would have happened


At least now they can relate to those folks in the inner city who trust their politicians
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teepan95
12/06/17 12:28:38 PM
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:(
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/17 12:29:44 PM
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Simple solution: legalize weed.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/06/17 12:43:44 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
"When they go low, we go high!"

We tried that, and lost. Clearly the insult the opponent modal is what wins the race, we should embrace it
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FLUFFYGERM
12/06/17 12:49:18 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Decades of ag subsidies screwing up the market, combined with decades of increasing property taxes and bloated land values, was just a perfect storm waiting to happen.


yep
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COVxy
12/06/17 12:51:34 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Stop being bitter and butthurt just because I spanked you for defending communism in that one topic. I posted this topic without any commentary whatsoever, and there's no precedent with which you can say this was a topic aimed at "liberals"


I don't remember this "spanking" as you call it.

The fact that you count discourse in terms of "spanks" is the reason people don't take you seriously.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/06/17 1:45:03 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
pizz posted...

Aaaaaaaaand there goes a lunatic CEman who is okay with this just because most farmers are conservative. You're why Trump won.

Luckily he won't win again, as half his potential voters will off themselves before the next election


Love trump's hate!


I don't want to love his hate :(
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C_Pain
12/06/17 1:53:20 PM
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fantastic topic for ce shitposting and trolling

i love it michael
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Megaman50100
12/06/17 2:01:40 PM
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Also a big problem of how farmers can make more money without costs being passed onto the consumer which won't fly at all.
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_RETS_
12/06/17 2:01:50 PM
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pizz posted...
It's about time rednecks became ashamed of themselves.

I bet you are also quick to point out that liberal California produces food for the whole country, aren't you?
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/17 2:02:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Awful to see that Republicans arent going to bat for these people who seem to primarily live in Republican states, but its a shame that more attention isnt brought to this by Democrats either.

It's all pandering to the constituency.

That's why republicans are "entitlements are bad!" while constantly pushing the latest Farm Bill, while democrats complain about ag subsidies while constantly pushing for free college or something.
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NinjaBreakfast
12/06/17 2:06:01 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
pizz posted...

Aaaaaaaaand there goes a lunatic CEman who is okay with this just because most farmers are conservative. You're why Trump won.

Lol at least wait til somebody expresses some actual gleeful anti republican sentiment itt before jumping to the claims you obviously intended to make from the outset.

Also fwiw liberals who laugh at this or see it as a fair, next situations are fucked up
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NinjaBreakfast
12/06/17 2:06:49 PM
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Also FWIW that pizz dude is just an edgy troll account and definitely not a 'liberal' from what I can see
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