Board 8 > Time Person of the Year 2017 announced: "The Silence Breakers"

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charmander6000
12/06/17 2:20:44 PM
#51:


Kneeling in the NFL is small change compared to the damage done by metoo around the world.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 2:22:57 PM
#52:


charmander6000 posted...
Kneeling in the NFL is small change compared to the damage done by metoo around the world.


Except it's not....

If #Metoo leads to 17% of the countries to stop watching news movies and tv come talk to me.

Otherwise it's not even debatable which has had the bigger overall impact.
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charmander6000
12/06/17 2:39:15 PM
#53:


Do you think the NFL is anywhere that big?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 2:41:44 PM
#54:


charmander6000 posted...
Do you think the NFL is anywhere that big?


In the country that time Subscribers live in and thefroe the only one they should care about... yes.
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charmander6000
12/06/17 2:48:20 PM
#55:


I agree the NFL would be the largest story in the US, but it gets seriously diluted by apathy around the world.

If it spread to other sport leagues then you may have an argument, but really he wouldn't have been more than a finalist (which he was)
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 3:05:34 PM
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charmander6000 posted...
I agree the NFL would be the largest story in the US, but it gets seriously diluted by apathy around the world.

If it spread to other sport leagues then you may have an argument, but really he wouldn't have been more than a finalist (which he was)


So Since you seem to agree with me I'll ask the question I've had since the start which no one can answer yet...

Why the hell does the rest of the world matter for this?

Time doing this is like USA Today doing this. Time is not a worldwide magazine. It is a US based subscription magazine. And we are on the same page that domestically the NFL has been the biggest story all year. I don't care about foreign at that time, and certainly neither should Time.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/06/17 3:08:02 PM
#57:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Haha that penisface trump didn't get it. Good.


It's not a POSITIVE award. It just means you were most talked about.


He allegedly wanted it though
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 3:09:03 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Haha that penisface trump didn't get it. Good.


It's not a POSITIVE award. It just means you were most talked about.


He allegedly wanted it though


"No publicity is bad publicity.... maybe?"
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 3:09:22 PM
#59:


I can't think of another reason he'd want it.
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Espeon
12/06/17 3:11:30 PM
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The NFL isnt an important story. Who gives a shit about a single sport compared to the MeToo movement?
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transience
12/06/17 3:13:45 PM
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I agree with this but there's quite a bit of dissonance when our sitting president was accused countless times in 2016 and apparently gets a pass
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ChaosTonyV4
12/06/17 3:20:05 PM
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Its a weird name but a perfect choice. Sexual misconduct accusations have taken down so many people this year.

Just Donald I could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and not lose support Trump, unfortunately.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 3:21:29 PM
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transience posted...
I agree with this but there's quite a bit of dissonance when our sitting president was accused countless times in 2016 and apparently gets a pass


Accusations mean nothing. There needs to be something there either proving someone did it,
Witnesses, confessions, or at the very least circumstancial evidence.

In the case of Roy Moore there is no proof he did, but there are mounds upon mounds upon mounds of circumstantial evidence that he did, that I don't feel wrong in saying it's pretty safe bet he's a rapist, and a "e" something "phile" the one that likes teens and preteens.
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HaRRicH
12/06/17 3:21:35 PM
#64:


transience posted...
I agree with this but there's quite a bit of dissonance when our sitting president was accused countless times in 2016 and apparently gets a pass


And has over the past year thrown support to both Bill O'Reilley and Roy Moore during their accusations. Donald is directly at odds with the movement.

In a way though, it feels like this award is trying to bridge that dissonance together and make that conversation happen again more seriously. I've not read their article about it, but to have these people as #1 and Donald as #2 seems to hint at it.
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charmander6000
12/06/17 3:23:46 PM
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
charmander6000 posted...
I agree the NFL would be the largest story in the US, but it gets seriously diluted by apathy around the world.

If it spread to other sport leagues then you may have an argument, but really he wouldn't have been more than a finalist (which he was)


So Since you seem to agree with me I'll ask the question I've had since the start which no one can answer yet...

Why the hell does the rest of the world matter for this?

Time doing this is like USA Today doing this. Time is not a worldwide magazine. It is a US based subscription magazine. And we are on the same page that domestically the NFL has been the biggest story all year. I don't care about foreign at that time, and certainly neither should Time.


IIRC the US comprises of around 75% of Time's subscription base, that's not an insignificant amount for the rest of the world. This obviously leads to the magazine to be bias towards the US which is fair.

Metoo was also pretty big in the US, especially during the later part of the year (which adds recency bias) so it wouldn't be like the NFL would blow it out of the water in the US market. If the match gave the NFL a 55-60% win among the US market I could easily see the rest of the world tilting the scale towards Metoo given that NFL issues is non-existent to the rest of the world.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 3:34:00 PM
#66:


charmander6000 posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
charmander6000 posted...
I agree the NFL would be the largest story in the US, but it gets seriously diluted by apathy around the world.

If it spread to other sport leagues then you may have an argument, but really he wouldn't have been more than a finalist (which he was)


So Since you seem to agree with me I'll ask the question I've had since the start which no one can answer yet...

Why the hell does the rest of the world matter for this?

Time doing this is like USA Today doing this. Time is not a worldwide magazine. It is a US based subscription magazine. And we are on the same page that domestically the NFL has been the biggest story all year. I don't care about foreign at that time, and certainly neither should Time.


IIRC the US comprises of around 75% of Time's subscription base, that's not an insignificant amount for the rest of the world. This obviously leads to the magazine to be bias towards the US which is fair.

Metoo was also pretty big in the US, especially during the later part of the year (which adds recency bias) so it wouldn't be like the NFL would blow it out of the water in the US market. If the match gave the NFL a 55-60% win among the US market I could easily see the rest of the world tilting the scale towards Metoo given that NFL issues is non-existent to the rest of the world.


Fair enough. I disagree with Time but definitley appreciate your explanation
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LapisLazuli
12/06/17 4:38:52 PM
#67:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
At least I know the things that affect the most money are what matter the most in the overall grand scheme anytime you speak macro, unless genocide is involved (genocide is not involved in any of the top 3 this year)


Oh hey, you finally decided to say fuck it and stop denying that accusation?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
12/06/17 4:53:51 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
At least I know the things that affect the most money are what matter the most in the overall grand scheme anytime you speak macro, unless genocide is involved (genocide is not involved in any of the top 3 this year)


Oh hey, you finally decided to say fuck it and stop denying that accusation?


What accusation?
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pjbasis
12/06/17 4:58:46 PM
#69:


Uh obviously "Energy" is the real most important thing.
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bryans7
12/06/17 9:03:58 PM
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Makes me wonder if there are any ebola fighting, whistle-blowing, protesting, good samaritan american soldiers who have been groped out there.

They've been person of the year 7 times since 2002.
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Metal_DK
12/07/17 1:10:53 AM
#71:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
MrGreenonion posted...
Whatever, I was person of the year in 2006 and you don't see me bragging all the time


Has @Metal_DK commented on the 2006 POTY and whether it helped to kick off the Revolution?


I mean its definitely a starting point, and looking back on it 2006's "YOU" is actually a perfect pick. Its just at the time it was a cop out i guess.

Fall 06 through about April/May 08 = CRO2K7
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Raka_Putra
12/07/17 3:24:00 AM
#72:


Who the fuck is Kaep? Get out with that hipster obscure shit.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/07/17 11:43:00 AM
#73:


Raka_Putra posted...
Who the fuck is Kaep? Get out with that hipster obscure shit.


He is an American who is like 350 times more influential than trump
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Raka_Putra
12/07/17 9:38:01 PM
#74:


More influential than Trump, Obama, Lincoln, and Washington combined I'm sure.
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