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SomeLikeItHoth 12/05/17 11:24:27 PM #1: |
http://abc7ne.ws/2BMFDi3
Gov. Scott Walker moved ahead Monday with his plans to make Wisconsin the first state to drug test able-bodied adults applying for food stamps, a move blocked by the federal government or found to be unconstitutional when other states have tried. Wisconsin's plan was approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature more than two years ago, but it languished because it conflicts with federal rules prohibiting states from imposing additional eligibility criteria on food stamp recipients. Florida had a drug test requirement for food stamp recipients that a federal appeals court blocked in 2014, finding it violated constitutional protections against unreasonable searches. Walker filed a federal lawsuit in 2015 seeking approval to test food stamp applicants, but it was rejected because then-President Barack Obama's administration had not yet formally rejected the state's request to do the testing. Walker asked then President-elect Donald Trump's administration in December 2016 to make clear that drug screening is permissible, but it has not taken action and now Walker is moving ahead anyway. Walker approved a rule change to implement the screening and sent it to the Legislature for review Monday. Walker spokesman Tom Evenson said the governor believes he has the authority to implement the rule. The Legislature has four months to review the rule and it could take a year after its approval before the testing would begin. Lawsuits by those who oppose the drug testing are expected once it's implemented, assuming the federal government doesn't step in and block it in the meantime. Under the plan, childless FoodShare participants who fail a drug test would be eligible for state-funded rehabilitation treatment if they don't have any other way to pay for it. FoodShare is Wisconsin's name for the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. --- The GOAT Fam 2017! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 12/05/17 11:25:10 PM #2: |
This needs to happen in every state, especially California.
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Schwarber 12/05/17 11:27:03 PM #3: |
Old. Sorry no one's biting but there's already a topic about this.
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tremain07 12/05/17 11:29:04 PM #4: |
Wait a second, didn't some state do this some years ago and it actually wasted more money than it was suppose to save? Why do it again?
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DifferentialEquation 12/05/17 11:30:39 PM #5: |
Good.
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0AbsoluteZero0 12/05/17 11:31:56 PM #6: |
tremain07 posted...
Wait a second, didn't some state do this some years ago and it actually wasted more money than it was suppose to save? Why do it again? Yes. Florida did this and it cost them way more than they saved. Doing away with fraud and waste when possible is usually a good thing, but not when the cost of catching those people far outweighs the potential savings --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 12/05/17 11:32:24 PM #7: |
tremain07 posted...
Wait a second, didn't some state do this some years ago and it actually wasted more money than it was suppose to save? Why do it again? yeah, in florida they did it and it cost us more than it saved, plus the governor's wife had investments in the company that did the drug tests --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 12/05/17 11:40:12 PM #8: |
prince_leo posted...
tremain07 posted...Wait a second, didn't some state do this some years ago and it actually wasted more money than it was suppose to save? Why do it again? Ah, so corruption hidden under the guise of good intentions and punishing the failures. Just like private prisons. I wonder who stands to profit off this practice in Wisconsin, probably somebody related to Walker in some way --- I got nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 12/05/17 11:41:04 PM #9: |
Let's punch down even more on people that already have nothing
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0AbsoluteZero0 12/05/17 11:44:25 PM #11: |
Spooking posted...
Why would anybody be against this? It's a win-win situation for tax payers and people who actually need food stamps. Except it's already been demonstrated to cost well more than it saves. In case you're incapable of understanding the implications to taxpayers, it unequivocally hurts them --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 12/05/17 11:44:46 PM #12: |
Spooking posted...
Why would anybody be against this? It's a win-win situation for tax payers and people who actually need food stamps. To me it's about priorities? The Republican party claims to promote conservative values life family life, but pursues policies that destroy families that don't meet its picture perfect notion of what that should mean. If you're a poor person with a family, and you happen to smoke a little weed because you're stressed out you should be denied food? What the fuck is that? Also drug testing is horribly intrusive, and in my opinion, no state authority should be able to do it, let alone employers, unless you are in a job where lives are at stake. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CharlesBronson 12/05/17 11:44:56 PM #13: |
you don't even qualify for food stamps if you have no kids so why does it matter
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muchdran 12/05/17 11:45:23 PM #14: |
DifferentialEquation posted...
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AlternativeFAQS 12/05/17 11:47:20 PM #15: |
hoth is just mad he got denied for food stamps
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Villain 12/05/17 11:47:41 PM #16: |
So are those in support of this okay with the fact that it costs taxpayers more money than save? This was proven to be the case in Florida.
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Villain 12/05/17 11:49:47 PM #17: |
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
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LinksLiege 12/05/17 11:51:27 PM #18: |
Spooking posted...
Why would anybody be against this? It's a win-win situation for tax payers and people who actually need food stamps. "how do I economics" --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 12/05/17 11:51:50 PM #19: |
Spooking posted...
Why would anybody be against this? It's a win-win situation for tax payers and people who actually need food stamps. Did you read the above posts? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 12/05/17 11:52:58 PM #20: |
At least acknowledge that you're OK with the tax payers footing the bill based on your moral grounds instead of parroting that it will save taxpayers money
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loafy013 12/06/17 12:24:51 AM #21: |
I'm all for this, if they make a slight change. Since drugs are so bad, testing must be mandatory for all state officials. Wouldn't want politicians making uninformed decisions because their minds have been addled by drugs.
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