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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 4:02:41 AM
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The XMB on the PS4 has barely changed since 2013. That's mostly okay since it was good design to begin with, but shit, the PS Store is still trash and it just doesn't feel that snappy

I like the enhanced focus on achievements, including achievement tracking.

CHANGING YOUR USERNAME. FFS even this fucking website let's you do it, I made my username literally over 9 years ago and naturally I'm not interested in it anymore

Game Pass makes so much more fucking sense than just trying to stream anything. Just fucking download it to you system and rent it, like nature intended.

Luckily my GOTY is a PS4 exclusive (Nier Automata) so I still have plenty of reason to use my PS4 Pro
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Darklit_Minuet
12/03/17 4:07:13 AM
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Achievements are useless, and usernames don't need to be changed. These are completely pointless reasons.
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Foppe
12/03/17 4:08:49 AM
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Sitting down and playing games in itself is useless.
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Rika_Furude
12/03/17 4:10:45 AM
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if you own a pc or a ps4 there is no legitimate reason to own a xbox

if you own both a pc and a ps4, there has to be something wrong with you or you have to be even richer than me to even consider an xbox
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Darklit_Minuet
12/03/17 4:12:34 AM
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Yeah but at least there's reasons to do so. I like level grinding, increasing the numbers, and being strong enough to defeat all the superbosses. That's a reward in itself. But I've never gotten a single platinum, despite the fact that I do almost everything there is to do in games. Because if I don't feel the reward of doing something is worth doing it, I just don't bother.

Take Final Fantasy 10 - I maxed out my stats and defeated all the obscenely powerful superbosses, but I never bothered doing the lightning dodging or butterfly catching minigame. I could easily get the game platinum'd in about half an hour if I really wanted to, but it's like...those minigames don't give you any worthwhile rewards. "Ultimate" weapons for two characters who are completely and utterly useless in the postgame. So I'm not going to waste my time on it.

I wanna understand why people find trophies and achievements rewarding, because they don't unlock a single damn thing when you do them
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Dash_Harber
12/03/17 4:12:56 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

I like the enhanced focus on achievements, including achievement tracking.


I just don't get this. Most games have some sort of achievements system anyway, so it never really served much of a purpose to me besides creating weird goals for games you already love.

AvantgardeAClue posted...
CHANGING YOUR USERNAME. FFS even this fucking website let's you do it, I made my username literally over 9 years ago and naturally I'm not interested in it anymore


Totally agree there.

I'm loyal to PS, though.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 4:32:39 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Achievements are useless, and usernames don't need to be changed. These are completely pointless reasons.


What's useless about adding extra replay value to a game and doing something that comes standard on all PC games?

You find getting maxing out stats on a game you already know well fun, some people like playing a familiar game on a harder difficulty or doing something you don't normally do in it. Achievements are just keepsakes of some of those challenges.

Rika_Furude posted...
if you own a pc or a ps4 there is no legitimate reason to own a xbox

if you own both a pc and a ps4, there has to be something wrong with you or you have to be even richer than me to even consider an xbox


I have a MacBook and therefore have good reason to own both
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Rika_Furude
12/03/17 4:47:46 AM
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achievements dont add replay value to a game. they are fake content. developers should be adding real content
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 4:54:51 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
achievements dont add replay value to a game. they are fake content. developers should be adding real content


Except if Im playing through a game again on a higher difficulty that counts towards an achievement, thats effectively replay value.

Only reason youd be opposed to that is if you think theres some intricate value in plush a game for the sake of playing it

Well thats rough. Gaming is inherently pointless so might as well work towards something
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Rika_Furude
12/03/17 4:57:24 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Except if Im playing through a game again on a higher difficulty that counts towards an achievement, thats effectively replay value.

thats the worst type of achievement there is, apart from those "you completed the tutorial!" achievements

adding an achievement for finishing the game is the worst type of "replay value" you could advocate for. the game should be fun enough to replay on its own merit. an achievement does nothing to help this
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 5:00:09 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Except if Im playing through a game again on a higher difficulty that counts towards an achievement, thats effectively replay value.

thats the worst type of achievement there is, apart from those "you completed the tutorial!" achievements

adding an achievement for finishing the game is the worst type of "replay value" you could advocate for. the game should be fun enough to replay on its own merit. an achievement does nothing to help this


I play games for fun!

Do you understand how blantantly redundant this sounds

No one is playing a bad game for achievements, just as how no one is gonna play something that they dont consider fun because it has a lot of content. A few trophy whores doesnt change the overall concept of achievements as being worthwhile
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Rika_Furude
12/03/17 5:07:37 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

I play games for fun!

Do you understand how blantantly redundant this sounds

are you done?
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 5:13:56 AM
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hmm I dont know

How about you read the follow up and tell me
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Rika_Furude
12/03/17 5:42:53 AM
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i didn't ask for your opinion about trophy-whores

i'm telling you that achievements are fake content just like upping damage numbers is fake difficulty
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Gamer99z
12/03/17 5:45:43 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
i didn't ask for your opinion about trophy-whores

i'm telling you that achievements are fake content just like upping damage numbers is fake difficulty

Achievements/trophies aren't intended to be content, just a challenge system that compliments the content and offers replayability for those interested in challenges and being a completionist.
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darkprince45
12/03/17 5:53:27 AM
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This year was the only year that made me play my PlayStation more. Really great exclusives from Sony

But I think Xbox is gonna be back on top soon. Xbox one x is a hit. I fucking hate the ps menu and interface, store sucks, everything feels clunky and doing everything just sucks and I have to Google it

Xbox makes it so easy. Game pass and EA are amazing. Compared to 20 dollars a month to stream laggy ps3 games

The Xbox main franchises like halo and gears are way better too and fun
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foreveraIone
12/03/17 6:11:41 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
EA are amazing.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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darkprince45
12/03/17 6:39:39 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
darkprince45 posted...
EA are amazing.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Ea access is amazing. 5 bucks a month for a ton of games
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WarDog2016
12/03/17 6:42:45 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
The XMB on the PS4 has barely changed since 2013. That's mostly okay since it was good design to begin with, but shit, the PS Store is still trash and it just doesn't feel that snappy

I like the enhanced focus on achievements, including achievement tracking.

CHANGING YOUR USERNAME. FFS even this fucking website let's you do it, I made my username literally over 9 years ago and naturally I'm not interested in it anymore

Game Pass makes so much more fucking sense than just trying to stream anything. Just fucking download it to you system and rent it, like nature intended.

Luckily my GOTY is a PS4 exclusive (Nier Automata) so I still have plenty of reason to use my PS4 Pro


Some of your complaints are valid. Like, the psn store is dog shit, there is no question about that. I'm very salty about many lacking search functionality, especially when I try to browse on my PC.

But achievements? Come on man, that's pleb shit.

Oh, and come on, Bloodborne. At the end of the day it's about the quality of the games.
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MoreRpgs
12/03/17 6:45:49 AM
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lol
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krazychao5
12/03/17 6:46:50 AM
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Just buy a switch if you want gaming experience that is different. Ps4 and Xbone are too similar to have both
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AlternativeFAQS
12/03/17 6:49:12 AM
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It's pathetic how butthurt people get when they prefer Xbox over sony
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_Reivax_
12/03/17 6:57:58 AM
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krazychao5 posted...
Just buy a switch if you want gaming experience that is different. Ps4 and Xbone are too similar to have both

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Romulox28
12/03/17 9:01:37 AM
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I've been more of an Xbox guy since the OG Xbox came out but I'm finding it hard to enjoy what MS is doing. I think in terms of hardware, OS, controller, and interface, the Xbox is better but it seems like the system is leaning more towards becoming just a service box for people who haven't switched over to PC gaming yet.

I get that the Xbox division is getting hurt because of low sales but it's like MS isn't even trying. Forza is still going strong but racing is a polarizing genre, and then what else is there? The worst Halo game in the entire franchise & the worst Gears game in the entire franchise. What else is there? Cuphead? Meanwhile Lionhead is dead, Rare is a zombie, etc

I am unhappy with how Sony has been changing or nixing a lot of their big franchises (canning Twisted Metal, fucking up God of War, etc) but at least they are still putting out some solid games on occasion and even playing up to nostalgia sometimes with stuff like the Crash Bandicoot Collection, which I appreciate. Ultimately I've had more fun with Uncharted 4 than I've had with a single Xbox game this gen, and that's really sad.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 12:09:31 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
Just buy a switch if you want gaming experience that is different. Ps4 and Xbone are too similar to have both


*has had a Switch from day one*
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Turbam
12/03/17 12:12:48 PM
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Automata isn't exclusive :V
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ChromaticAngel
12/03/17 12:14:38 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Luckily my GOTY is a PS4 exclusive (Nier Automata)

Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V

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Youngster_Joey_
12/03/17 12:16:55 PM
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I like Xbox more just because of the backwards compatibility

Other than that, I haven't been impressed with any exclusives on either system. Naughty Dog games are so dreadfully boring, I've never been a fan of Dark Souls, most of the other stuff just is way too Japanese for my taste.

But on the other end, I have never gave a shit about Forza or Gears. And Halo 5 was okay at best but I got bored pretty quick cause I always liked Halo for couch multiplayer.

Funny enough, I really liked Fable but that shit's done for.
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ChromaticAngel
12/03/17 12:18:38 PM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I like Xbox more just because of the backwards compatibility

Other than that, I haven't been impressed with any exclusives on either system.


The only exclusives that have impressed me as far as XBox / PS4 go are Sunset Overdrive and Horizon: Zero Dawn.

The only console that has a significant exclusive library I actually care about is Switch.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 12:36:07 PM
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Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V


Anyone who isn't a masochist plays it on PS4
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Turbam
12/03/17 12:37:58 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V


Anyone who isn't a masochist plays it on PS4

That's fine, but that doesn't make it an exclusive
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ChromaticAngel
12/03/17 12:38:09 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V


Anyone who isn't a masochist plays it on PS4


I think there are some fan fixes for the issues it has.
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AvantgardeAClue
12/03/17 12:40:04 PM
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Turbam posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V


Anyone who isn't a masochist plays it on PS4

That's fine, but that doesn't make it an exclusive


Course it does, Bert

Is Forza still treated like an Xbone exclusive even though they literally sell copies with Windows versions
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Dustin1280
12/03/17 1:00:13 PM
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I prefer rpgs to all other games, Xbox has fail rpgs (not that we have had too many good rpgs in awhile)

I really don't give a damn about achievements and I didn't make a stupid ass shitty user name years ago so PS4 for me.
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Perascamin
12/03/17 1:03:04 PM
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Xbox is kind of tragic because they absolutely dominated the last generation with the 360. Literally all they had to do to maintain that position was make the Xbox 360 2.0 with the same exact features the 360 had but with better hardware.

If they never tried that cd-key always online bullshit they would have been much better off.

"But sony has muh exclusives!!!" yeah maybe if youre a fucking weeaboo
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Evolician
12/03/17 1:03:44 PM
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You can change your Gamefaqs username? <_<
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Link HT
12/03/17 1:04:02 PM
#37:


If your emphasis is on everything except actual gaming then yeah, xbox is probably the better choice
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AlternativeFAQS
12/03/17 1:05:12 PM
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Link HT posted...
If your emphasis is on everything except actual gaming then yeah, xbox is probably the better choice


except the xbox one x plays all games better
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FaytlessHearts
12/03/17 1:11:58 PM
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Uncharted 4 singlehandedly made me hate playing my ps4.

Seriously, fucking utter garbage. I loved the series too, until 4.

Another thing is that xbox actually has GOOD games for their monthly stuff. PSN had garbage titles. I will buy exclusive SP games for my ps4, if any appeal to me, but I will never pay the terrible ps+ again. Xbox gold gets my money.
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Link HT
12/03/17 1:17:45 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
Link HT posted...
If your emphasis is on everything except actual gaming then yeah, xbox is probably the better choice


except the xbox one x plays all games better

first: citation needed

secondly, if you're going that route then the xbox has been the worst platform for the past 4 years since the ps4 absolutely shit on it and the pro even more so. It's funny seeing xbots coming out of the woodwork now.
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AlternativeFAQS
12/03/17 1:18:42 PM
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Timohtep
12/03/17 1:20:51 PM
#43:


Switch/PC combo is top tier
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Link HT
12/03/17 1:21:36 PM
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Not even a big sony fan tbh, it's just that the ps4 has been the obviously better console this gen, it's not even up for debate.

It's just weird to me how strong the xbox brand is in the US because it does pretty poorly everywhere else. I dunno what marketing you guys got hit with but damn.
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sylverlolol
12/03/17 1:23:24 PM
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I'm not sure I follow...PS4 games have trophies. Why, exactly, are you "leaning toward" a console where almost every major exclusive is also available on PC, exactly?

AlternativeFAQS posted...
except the xbox one x plays all games better

Sure, after MS did a full backpedal on their previous "we don't care about not being the strongest" stance. Still won't help them get out of third place yet again.
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Gamer99z
12/03/17 1:26:42 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
Link HT posted...
If your emphasis is on everything except actual gaming then yeah, xbox is probably the better choice


except the xbox one x plays all games better

The consensus from what I've seen seems to be that it isn't really that notable of an improvement during normal gameplay and not just stills side by side. The notable change is the games that get a better framerate, but there's only really a handful of games that are getting 60fps instead of 30fps on the PS4 anyways.

Everyone I know with either has said it's not really worth upgrading to if you already have one because it's not a big enough jump.

And if you actually care about the absolute best graphics and performance you just go PC. The only reason people brought up power when comparing PS4 and XBO is because at launch the Xbox was $100 more, had a shitty forced peripheral, and had a notably weaker GPU that was an entire tier below that of the PS4. Graphics aren't everything, but when one is $100 cheaper or even the same price and offers notably more powerful hardware, then obviously it becomes noteworthy... That advantage isn't really there for the One X in the same way, yeah it's better performance, but you're paying a pretty penny for it and most people aren't really noticing it all that much during normal gameplay.
You might as well just wait for a true next gen or just get PC if you want a truly superior experience, especially since the entire Xbox platform is basically in Windows now.
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Turbam
12/03/17 1:27:59 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Turbam posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Turbam posted...
Automata isn't exclusive :V


Anyone who isn't a masochist plays it on PS4

That's fine, but that doesn't make it an exclusive


Course it does, Bert

Is Forza still treated like an Xbone exclusive even though they literally sell copies with Windows versions

You can't argue facts with how you feel, man :V
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AlternativeFAQS
12/03/17 1:29:00 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
The consensus from what I've seen seems to be that it isn't really that notable of an improvement during normal gameplay and not just stills side by side.


you're incorrect.
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Gamer99z
12/03/17 1:41:23 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
Gamer99z posted...
The consensus from what I've seen seems to be that it isn't really that notable of an improvement during normal gameplay and not just stills side by side.


you're incorrect.

Obviously to those that actually care enough you'll pay attention and notice but most people seem to think the difference is fairly slim in real world situations. There's even blind side by side of it online the AVGN channel did one, I think Digital Foundry did one, LTT said the same thing, etc. And if you're someone who's paying that extra attention or really does care, just get a PC. it makes no sense not to.
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LJRENEGADE
12/03/17 2:05:30 PM
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PS4 has better games imo. That said, overall, I don't really like the PS4 or the Xbox One. And the PS store runs like dog shit on PS3. XBone has a cool controller tho
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FreedomEtrtment
12/03/17 2:14:23 PM
#51:


Perascamin posted...
Xbox is kind of tragic because they absolutely dominated the last generation with the 360. Literally all they had to do to maintain that position was make the Xbox 360 2.0 with the same exact features the 360 had but with better hardware.

If they never tried that cd-key always online bullshit they would have been much better off.

"But sony has muh exclusives!!!" yeah maybe if youre a fucking weeaboo

Or if you like games other than mass shooter and car chase simulators. People like variety which is why the switch's sales are out of the park.
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